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mrmarket
07-06-2005, 09:43 AM
Normally I get up at 5 am every morning so that I can go worship myself at the gym. However, after years and years of this routine of going into this sleepy dark unoccupied gym every morning, sometimes you just run out of energy. I mean how much fun is it being $$$MR. MARKET$$$ with 19” biceps and a 385 lb bench press if there is no one in there to compete against?

So this morning I went by the convenience store and instead of grabbing a morning coffee, I picked up a 16 ounce can of Monster Energy Drink

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and took it to the gym with me. After chugging all 16 ounces, I couldn’t believe my eyes. I saw this other guy in the gym and he was all pumped up like a lizard. He was lifting enormous amounts of weight. He was screaming with each rep. “There’s not enough weight in this gym for me!” followed by “There’s not enough weight on this planet for me!” followed by “There’s not enough gravity on this planet for me! I need to work out on Jupiter!”.

Who was this guy? I was getting very nervous. After closer observation, I realized that it was $$$MR. MARKET$$$. I was looking at myself in the mirror.

Without further adieu, I put in my market order for HANS, Hansen Natural Corporation, which makes Monster Energy Drink.

Today I bought HANS at 89.56. I will sell it in 4 – 6 weeks at 103.18 Here are some other reasons why I like HANS:

Hansen Natural Corporation, through its subsidiaries, engages in the development, marketing, sale, and distribution of beverages in the United States and Canada. The company’s products include natural sodas, fruit juices, energy drinks and energy sports drinks, soy smoothies, functional drinks, sparkling lemonades and orangeades, noncarbonated ready-to-drink iced teas, lemonades, juice cocktails, children's multivitamin juice drinks, seltzer waters, and noncarbonated lightly flavored energy waters. It also markets nutrition food bars and cereals. The company markets its products under Hansen's, Monster, Blue Sky, and Junior Juice brand names to retail and specialty chains, club stores, mass merchandisers, convenience chains, beverage distributors, and health food distributors.

Health nuts once knew Hansen Natural Corp. as a maker of wholesome beverages such as preservative-free natural sodas and low-carb peach smoothies. But these days Hansen is blowing through beverage aisles with an entirely different product….you guessed it  Hansen's Monster Energy drinks offer giant doses of caffeine and sugar in big black cans adorned with neon-colored claw marks.

HANS stock is up 250% in the last 12 months. The price momentum of HANS is really compelling. It sports an r^2 coefficient of 0.90 for 12 months and 0.94 for the last 6 months….a steady and strong price climb which I love love to see:

http://ichart.finance.yahoo.com/z?s=HANS&t=1y&q=&l=&z=&p=m50,m200&a=v

So what is it about Hansen that is making its stock go through the roof? If I drink it, will I be able to apply “The Lariat” to Big Stan Hansen?:

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will I get a date with Marcy Hanson?:

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Actually if you drink Monster Energy, it really makes you want to pee and makes your heart like the King (Harley Race). But never mind me, there are thousands and thousands of people who are guzzling this stuff. People like this guy:

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Now after this guy drinks Monster Energy Drink, he probably thinks he is handsomer than me and has bigger biceps than I do. Well let him go on thinking that way. In reality, I can snap him in half and use his femur to floss my teeth. Actually, I would probably put him in a headlock and pop his brain like a zit. Maybe that’s why people are drinking this stuff..it makes them as confident as $$$MR. MARKET$$$.

Here are some real testimonials from Monster Energy Drinkers:

“Cody Thomas -Post Falls ID | 2005-04-07
I'm a 17yr old High School student, and I drink Monster Energy almost religiously. It really comes in handy around Semester Finals and other huge tests, for pulling off all nighters and still having enough feul to sit through boring teachers\' lectures. Monster Energy, you are my Hero, and well on your way to becoming my God!”

Maybe Cody should study a little harder or maybe he has not yet had enough “feul”.

“Andrea SAltigerald - Carol Stream IL | 2005-03-15
I really love this stuff it has to be the best energy drink alive. The other day I drove from chicago to champaign and back to chicago and if it wasn\'t for monster i would not have been able to stay awake and energized. Thanks, Andrea”

What Andrea forgot to tell you is that she had to go back to Chicago because she forgot why she was driving to champaign.

“Robert James - Troy MI | 2005-02-24
Monster kicks ass i love i t. I could drink them all day. One time i drank three of them in a row and iit gave me super human strength and i saved a cat stuck in a tree. Its good stuff. Keep up the work”

Hmmmm. Maybe there isn’t that much to do in Troy, MI. I wonder what happened to that cat after Robert “saved” it?

“Angelina Carpinone - Arnold CA | 2005-01-05
Monster kicks major ass! I love this drink so much my mom grounds me from it when im bad, who the hell do you know that does that!? I even collect the tabs to make braclets and necklaces out of them. i love this drink so much ill go to the store just to get one, ill buy 2 for every day of the week. it needs to be sold in every store in the country! thanks much for this drink!”

This is amazing. I am very optimistic that our future generations will be able to outcompete the Japanese in all areas of academia.

“Mark Morin - Hancock MI | 2005-01-10
Monster rocks i luv drinking it, i drink one just before every one of my football games, it helps my team win!”

Mark forgot to mention that he is the trombone player in the pep band.

“Ben Anderson - Hancock MI | 2005-01-10
Oh man i want one like now too bad i am in fuc*in schooll!!!!!!”

I don’t think Ben has too much to worry about, pretty soon he will be asked to leave “fuc*in schooll!!!!!!

“Jeff Vrolyks - Simi Valley CA | 2004-11-10

This website kicks ass! I'm very proud to be part of Monster, I am a trade development manager for Monster in Ventura and Santa Barbara County. Just for a heads up, i created a new drink to add to the already nice roster, Jack Daniels and Assault. I call it the Jack-Ass for obvious reasons, and you turn into a jackass after a few of them! You could even put one ounce jack, one ounce absolute and fill with Monster Assault and you then have an "Absolute Jack-Ass".”

Now we’re talking, Jeff.

“Howard Plum - Schenectady NY | 2004-08-31
I Just got done Drinking a can of your MONSTER and HOLY SHIT!!!! I feel like I just did 10 Lines of YAYO Seriously this stuff should require ID to Buy!!! LoL... I will never sleep again.....”

I love the movie, “Scarface”.

Ok Ok…here are some more articulate reviews:

“Monster Energy Drink's sugary sweetness was a little much for the early morning hours, but not completely unpleasant. The initial energy rush was pretty potent. The boost is comparable to a couple shots of espresso or strong cups of coffee. The energy it provided stretched consistently throughout the day. However, I felt a slightly shaky, jittery feeling set in for a brief period in the early afternoon. Overall, Monster performs well and definitely adds pep to the day.”

And I like this one too:

“Unleash the Beast: Monster Energy Drink

For those of you looking for a great-tasting, energy-boosting beverage, Monster energy drink is a great choice. Depending on your location, Monster may be a hard drink to find. You may have to go to multiple locations to find your sought after beverage. Many large gas stations have a nice variety of energy drinks, and you may get lucky if you stumble upon the right one.
Caged within a large, 16 oz. can, Monster comes with a kick that is very satisfying. The can is very attractive, one in particular being black with neon green and white writing and a green pull tab on the top of the can. Down the front side of the can are neon green claw marks, the logo for the monster drinks. This energy supplement displays its main energy-packing contents across the top ring which include: Taurine, Ginseng, B Vitamins, and also L-Carnitine. Don't forget the necessary caffeine listed within the ingredients list.

Monster Energy: The Taste

If you've ever had an energy drink, you know that they all taste close to the same, some being better than others. Monster is one of those that tastes great. The first taste may hit you if you aren't used to energy drinks. If you are familiar with them, the first taste will be very satisfying.

The taste of the drink tastes close to a sour gumball or candy and if you aren't a fan of sour/bitter things, then run away. It's not unbearably sour, but it can still pack a punch. The first sip is usually the worst. Towards the bottom of the can, it tends to become stronger. The can is carbonated, thus shaking will not bring positive results. The aftertaste is somewhat odd, and burping after drinking does not leave the most pleasant taste in your nose and mouth. That may sound gross, but we are all humans and it is a natural reaction.

Monster seems to have a good energy kick also. The buzz factor is somewhat noticeable, which helps to improve your stamina and physical performance. Monster Energy comes highly recommended by us here at Factexpert.com.
Pick this drink up today!

So what’s all the fuss about Monster?? It’s basically this:

Ingredients - Carbonated water, sucrose, glucose, citric acid, taurine, natural flavors, sodium citrate, l-carnitine, panax ginseng root extract, ascorbic acid, caffeine, sodium chloride, niacinamide, riboflavin, guarana seed extract, inositol, glucuronalactone, pyridoxine hydrochloride, cyanobalmin.

Put them all together and you get the big Green Monster. Not the one at friendly Fenway, but the one that’s spewing green cash back to HANS.
HANS has what is known as “accelerating sales growth”. Accelerating sales growth is a sign that something for a company is going dramatically right. On its own, sales growth is no big deal. All companies are supposed to boost their sales from year to year. But they typically do so at a rate that gradually slows as they mature and saturate their markets. A sudden acceleration in a company's sales growth rate, however, might mean that a product has suddenly caught on with the public, an advertising campaign is working, or both.

Sales over the past year for the HANS totalled just $209 million, less than 1% of Coca-Cola’s revenue. Earnings came in at $27 million, vs. Coke's $4.7 billion. Ok, so it’s still a small company. That’s what makes it a great investment opportunity. HANS’ earnings per share jumped 215% last year, and are projected to increase by 79% this year and 26% next year by the timid ANAL-yst who is covering this stock.

Hansen's first-quarter sales, reported May 10, soared 92% year-over-year to $60 million. Earnings quadrupled to $8.8 million. Per-share earnings of 73 cents smoted the 60 cents that the only ANAL-yst covering the stock was looking for. Management credited the performance to "record sales" of its Monster Energy drinks, which include a low-carb version. The increase was offset by, well, everything else, really — juices, sodas and smoothies.
Scott Van Winkle, an analyst with Boston-based investment bank Adams Harkness whose forecast Hansen crushed, was impressed. He raised his full-year 2005 earnings estimate to $3.10 from $2.60, and notes that he's not sure that's enough.

"Despite the dramatic increase in our forecasts, we still believe the estimates could prove conservative," wrote Van Winkle in a May 11 research note. "Our forecasts utilize conservative revenue growth expectations given the current rate of distribution gains and category growth, and discount the margin growth that should occur as energy drinks encompass a rising percentage of sales."

Ok..so the ANAL-yst says that HANS will net $3.10 per share in 2005. What he doesn’t realize is that HANS can’t sell any Monster unless it gets out in the shelves of all of the convenience stores and mega marts. If you read through the rest of those on-line testimonials on the www.monsterenergy.com website, most of them are from people clamoring to have Monster placed on the shelves of their local store. Once their distribution channels are expanded, Monster sales will be bonkers. This hot summer will see PHENOMENAL sales for Monster. You pay about $2.00/can for this stuff and the sales will ring up quick when you have people, who are addicted to it, buying 3 cans/day.

Come on $$$MR. MARKET$$$, are you going to waffle on us and not tell us how much money HANS will actually make this year, Hmmmm…..what if I make a market call and I’m wrong? I’m nervous. Don’t be alarmed, I’m only kidding….

In August, HANS will report the most amazing sales growth ever seen in a beverage company. Don’t believe me? Go down to your nearest gas station with a convenience store and ask the friendly sales clerk how the Monster has been moving. That’s how a real investor gets his info.

Next quarter, HANS will post earnings of $1.08/share on $90 MM of revenue. This will get them on their way to an amazing $4.03/share for 2005 on revenues of $335 million. Using the ANAL-ysts forward PE of 28, this would project to a share price of $112.84, which is well past my sales price.
How did they do it?

Hansen has jolted the Monster brand with a dose of guerrilla marketing. Teams of Monster ``ambassadors'' give out samples of the product at concerts, beach parties, and other events. The company also sponsors motocross, surfing, and skateboarding competitions. Hansen representatives in black Monster vans supplement the company's network of 300 independent distributors by assembling store displays and restocking specially designed racks in convenience store coolers.

Hansen now owns an 18% share of the energy-drink category. While Red Bull remains the leader with nearly half of the market, Hansen's energy-drink sales increased 162% last year -- more than three times Red Bull's growth rate. Say goodbye to the Bull. Nationwide demand for all energy drinks shows little sign of slowing down. Sales for 2004 were about $1 billion , growing from $600 million in 2003. Make room for Monster!

Now that more women reach for energy drinks than in the past, Hansen targets both genders with Rumba. Hansen's products cover all age groups from toddlers to older folks, but the Corona, Calif.-based firm keeps pumping out new ideas.

It recently launched Monster Assault, a darker, more tart addition to its Monster line. Monster Energy comes in a black can with a neon green M splashed on the front; Assault is packaged in a camouflage-patterned can with a bright red M. As a smaller company, Hansen is able to adapt more quickly to new trends than the cola kings. Plus, it's less risky for Hansen as a minor player to launch a new product because the scale required isn't as great.


There is more good news coming from HANS. It is a well managed company, not a flash in the pan. Hansen received the prestigious Beverage Forum Company of the Year Award for companies below $1 billion in revenue Wednesday for its performance in 2003. Judging criteria included the company's financial performance, depth of senior management and positioning for future growth.

The company’s long and short term debt ratios are in line with industry averages reflecting a solid financial condition. Operating margins are improving and operating cash flow remains positive. As long as the positive fundamental outlook does not change (and I just told you why it won’t) , this stock should be a strong performer over the intermediate term.

Some other factoids:

• The prior quarter Operating Margin of 24.53% is greater than the TTM (Trailing Twelve Month) Operating Margin of 21.78%.

• The Return on Assets (ROA) is 42.53. A high ROA is a good profitability measure since it reflects the ability of management to produce profits from each dollar of company assets. The average ROA for this Industry Group (Bev.-Non- Alcohol) is 10.71.

• The Operating Cash Flow was Positive in the last three years.

• The Return on Equity (ROE) is 63.43%. This ratio helps represent the future ability of a company to grow earnings. The average ROE for this Industry Group (Bev.-Non-Alcohol) is 22.38%.

•The Current Ratio is 2.88. Current ratios above 1 mean that a company’s shortterm debts are less than its assets. The higher the ratio, the stronger the company’s finances.

• The Long-Term Debt/Capital is 0.24%. This indication of financial leverage measures the extent of a firm’s capital that is provided by lenders. Below 25% reflects well on a company’s financial stability. The average LT Debt/Capital for this Industry Group (Bev.-Non-Alcoh) is 39.33%.

So what does the big Monster think?
Rodney C. Sacks, chairman and chief executive officer, said, "Our exceptional performance demonstrates the Company's growing position in the energy drink market. Growing consumer demand continues to be experienced for Monster Energy(TM) drinks, as well as Lost(TM) Energy drinks in 16 oz. cans.” He also adds, “Hansen's alliance with Lost was a strategic move that instantly put us on the radar of the skeptical, hard-to-reach, Gen-X beverage consumer.”

The company also states, “We believe that one of the keys to success in the beverage industry is differentiation, such as making Hansen's products visually distinctive from other beverages on the shelves of retailers. We review our products and packaging on an ongoing basis and, where practical, endeavor to make them different, better and unique. The labels and graphics for many of our products are redesigned from time to time to maximize their visibility and identification, wherever they may be placed in stores, and we will continue to reevaluate labels and graphics from time to time. “
“During the first quarter of 2005, we entered into several new distribution agreements for the sale of certain products in the ordinary course. We intend to continue building our national distributor network and sales force throughout the remainder of 2005 to support and grow the sales of our products.”

He’s not very energized is he? Maybe he OD’d on Monster. Well maybe I’ll leave you with this final blurb which might just summarize all of this a little bit better.

“Debra Cobb - Chicago IL | 2004-11-21
I really enjoy your product and I've gotten everyone I know to try it as well. Red Bull is now a memory. Thanks for making a great product.”

I think I’ll just stick with beer for now. So what do you think of this stock, and my HUGE write-up on it?

I am HUGE!!

$$$MR. MARKET$$$

www.mrmarketishuge.com

jiesen
07-06-2005, 10:34 AM
Fantastic pick, and great write-up, $$MM. I'm finally able to point to the reasons that this stock is not going to pull back for a cheap shot at it. So I bought it today at 88.6.

You are HUGE!!!!!!!!!

df21084
07-06-2005, 10:39 AM
Fantastic write up $$$Mr Market$$$. One of the best I've ever read. You're a hoot!

Nice pick. I'm in at $88.48.


YOU ARE HUGE!

Gary611
07-06-2005, 12:32 PM
IBD Stock Checkup Analysis:
Hansen Natural Corp receives an overall rating of A+, which is in the 99th percentile of all stocks in the Investor's Business Daily database. The overall rating is calculated using five proprietary ratings that measure each stock's Technical and Fundamental qualities and the Technical and Fundamental qualities of the industry group that it resides in, as well as a rating on the stock's current price attractiveness.

Hansen Natural Corp receives a Technical Rating of 99, which places it 1st out of 18 stocks in the Beverages-Soft Drinks group.

Hansen Natural Corp receives a Fundamental Rating of 99, which places it 1st out of 18 stocks in the Beverages-Soft Drinks group.

Hansen Natural Corp receives an Attractiveness Rating of 98, placing it 1st out of 18 stocks in its group.

The Beverages-Soft Drinks group's technical rating of A- ranks it in the 90th percentile of the 197 different Investor's Business Daily Industry Groups. The Beverages-Soft Drinks group's fundamental rating is D+, ranking it in the 53rd percentile of all groups

Gary611
07-06-2005, 01:26 PM
Well, I did some DD, & am in at $88.80, a bit late ,up from the lows of the day!

df21084
07-06-2005, 01:46 PM
Gary611,

Thanks for the IBD info.

mooddude
07-06-2005, 02:43 PM
This stock is about to fall into a base anytime soon -- too much extended. Plus, it's been making new highs on low volume. Not the best time to buy it IMHO.

Re: IBD info... It's copyrighted

B.J
07-06-2005, 03:00 PM
Good point about IBD stock checkup, Mood... I won't tell anyone though :D

$$MM$$, I can think of four wrestlers who would NOT benefit from drinking Monster Energy drink:

- Jimmy "Superfly" Snuka, doing his dive off the top rope with the excess energy, would overshoot the ring and fall on the ringside concrete.

- Haystacks Calhoun. Yes, Monster gives you boundless energy, but this guy weighs 600 lb. He'd require a GALLON.

- Hacksaw Jim Duggan, with a Monster in the tank, would probably smack himself in the head with that 4x4 he carries around. Probably wouldn't do much to the likes of him, though.

- Gorgeous George. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Monster works as perfume.

Nice pick... no wonder I had never heard of Hansen... I usually drink soda, water and beer. Very much out of the loop on healthy stuff.

Gary611
07-06-2005, 03:32 PM
Maybe this drink would be good for washing down a Slim Jim! I can't remember that wrestler that was on the commerical??
ps, ops! IBD info copyrighted? Please accept my apology, & ignore that post.

B.J
07-06-2005, 03:36 PM
That would be Randy "Macho Man" Savage :D

Websman
07-06-2005, 05:54 PM
I used to love wrestling in my High School days. Back then, it was all local. The WWF had not emerged yet. Some of my favorites were "Bullet Bob Armstrong", "The Mongolian Stomper", "Joe LeDuc", "Austin Idol", "Ric Flair", and my all time favorites.... the "New Zealand Sheep Herders".

The Sheep Herders might have drank Monster Energy Drink if it were available, but it wasn't. I believe their drink of choice was Crown Royal, because they never seemed to mind pain. These guys were the baddest of the bad boys of wrestling.

I was a poor young lad, so I used to arrive early and help set up the ring so I could get in for free and hang out with my heros. It was always quite an honor to speak with the greats like Ric Flair and Bob Armstrong, but I really loved the way the Sheep Herders played dirty in the ring, so I really wanted to meet them.

I never got to chill with my heroes, the Sheep Herders, but I did finally manage to get recognition from them. What a thrill that was! I was attempting to cheer for them by holding up the New Zealand Flag as they walked by. I was sure they would be proud that I was the only one in the crowd who approved of their their sleazy efforts in the ring. Surely they would take my flag and hold it up for all the world to see. Maybe they would even let me become their manager!

But no...That would not be the case...As one of the Sheep Herders was walking by me, he spit on my flag! I had been spit on by my hero! How dirty can you get? I loved it! These guys were lower than I had previously thought. How cool was it that they would actually spit on their most loyal fan! These guys stuck to their guns! They didn't change for anyone, and they would run over any S.O.B. that got in their way, including their loyal fans!

From then on, I was a die hard New Zealand Sheep Herders fan. I made a vow to spit on any New Zealand flag I saw, in honor of my low life heroes, which brings me to my point...

I was taught a valuable lesson by my low life heroes. Never let anyone stand in the way of success. Always be the best at what you do.

The Sheep Herders where the best a being scum bags, and I have to admire that...

B.J
07-06-2005, 07:06 PM
Webs, I can't watch wrestling anymore. It's all soap opera, light shows and interviews anymore. Seems like you get about five minutes of action in a one hour show.

skiracer
07-06-2005, 07:29 PM
Actually like this one much better than TOL. Been trending steadily up but the difference between TOL and HANS is the product. HANS's drinks are only going to become more popular and will provide stronger earnings over the near and longer term. You probably will see some correction but I see the trend continuing to slope upward regardless of the price and length of the current uptrend to date. I was hoping you picked this one out of the lot. Bad day for any entry today but nice day for anyone not yet in and looking for an entry point. Be patient you might see some more downflow before it continues back up.

minni17
07-07-2005, 05:52 PM
Here's a sad one....

I bought 1000 shares of hans at 5.37 7/1998........but I sold it all at a loss for 4 ashare in august 1999. Oh well I did get a tax write off..

minni

jiesen
07-07-2005, 07:52 PM
I had my first "Monster" energy drink at lunch today. Just wanted to share the experience for you all. First, I don't know where you can get one for $2... getting one out of the fridge at my local deli here in San Diego cost me $3. And that was for the small. Second, the taste wasn't bad. A bit sour- sort of like a Red Bull, I guess, but I've only had a couple of those, so I'm not too sure. Third, the caffeine level in the drink was noticibly high- note that the small size is still 16 oz, (about 2x the size of a Red Bull?). Couple that with a cup of coffee I had earlier in the morning, and I'm still buzzing at nearly 5pm! Well, I think that's just a bit more than my heart and wallet can handle on a daily basis, so you'll have to count me out as a mainliner of Hansen products, though I will continue to buy the occasional case of their Natural Soda line, since I quite like the taste of those. But as for the rest of San Diego, I do think this drink is and will continue to be thriving here, as evidenced by the fridge being well-stocked with these, and the fact that the next person in line also pulled one out for himself.

ninner
07-07-2005, 08:17 PM
hey you live in san diego.....i have a job op to move down to san diego.....do u like living there...what are some good areas to live??? More info the better

cheers

Websman
07-07-2005, 08:20 PM
hey you live in san diego.....i have a job op to move down to san diego.....do u like living there...what are some good areas to live??? More info the better

cheers

Cool...I have a brother who lives in San Diego.

jiesen
07-07-2005, 08:22 PM
hey you live in san diego.....i have a job op to move down to san diego.....do u like living there...what are some good areas to live??? More info the better

cheers

San Diego is the best place in the world to live. More info to follow...

B.J
07-07-2005, 08:25 PM
I live in LA. Not that bad, but SD is tons better.

Jiesen, I'll have to look you up next time I'm down that way.

skiracer
07-07-2005, 08:28 PM
Doesn't IIC (Doug) also live in LA?

B.J
07-07-2005, 08:56 PM
Yes he does. We've had problems meeting up, believe it or not. One month he's working a lot of hours, now I am (and he probably still is). Once I do have the priveledge of meeting Doug, I can finally borrow his calculator :D

Websman
07-07-2005, 09:00 PM
I guess I'm the only Redneck on the board... :)

mrmarket
07-07-2005, 09:51 PM
I had my first "Monster" energy drink at lunch today. Just wanted to share the experience for you all. First, I don't know where you can get one for $2... getting one out of the fridge at my local deli here in San Diego cost me $3. And that was for the small. Second, the taste wasn't bad. A bit sour- sort of like a Red Bull, I guess, but I've only had a couple of those, so I'm not too sure. Third, the caffeine level in the drink was noticibly high- note that the small size is still 16 oz, (about 2x the size of a Red Bull?). Couple that with a cup of coffee I had earlier in the morning, and I'm still buzzing at nearly 5pm! Well, I think that's just a bit more than my heart and wallet can handle on a daily basis, so you'll have to count me out as a mainliner of Hansen products, though I will continue to buy the occasional case of their Natural Soda line, since I quite like the taste of those. But as for the rest of San Diego, I do think this drink is and will continue to be thriving here, as evidenced by the fridge being well-stocked with these, and the fact that the next person in line also pulled one out for himself.


Next time you go in there, ask the clerk if the Monster is moving. Each convenience store is a microcosm of their entire unit sales picture. If same store sales are up AND they are expanding their distribution into more and more stores, their numbers reported in early August will be pornographic.

Go ahead and ask him..and report back to this thread. In fact, why don't all of you ask your local deli guy if Monster is moving. Let's do some grass roots research.

My guy told me sales were up 30% over just LAST MONTH!!

jiesen
07-07-2005, 10:01 PM
I live in LA. Not that bad, but SD is tons better.

Jiesen, I'll have to look you up next time I'm down that way.

Yeah, BJ, let me know when you plan to be in town, and we can grab a bite at one of our many fine eateries around here. But back to the topic of beautiful SD, there really isn't any place like it, imo. I grew up a spoiled So Cal brat in OC, so naturally, I am hugely biased towards California for its excellent weather, beaches, bustling economy. But after moving to SD for school, I realized this place is so much better than anywhere else in CA, and therefore the world. I think SD is a bit more laid back than the rest of the major metro areas in southern California, and it used to be a lot more sparsely populated, though this has changed a lot in the past decade. Traffic is getting a bit worse as a result, but it's still nowhere near what you'd have to deal with in LA. As far as places to live in SD, #1 place to be is La Jolla, if you can afford $10M+ for a home. Otherwise, try UTC area or Pacific Beach for more affordable, and more fun places to reside. I live in Clairemont, since it's probably the cheapest area that's decent, and central to the area. I hate long commutes, and living here makes it easy no matter where in SD I happen to work (which tends to change every few years, due to my profession). You couldn't pay me enough to take a job outside of SD. Anyway, I could go on and on about the great things about living here in SD, but if I don't get at least something done tonight my boss will have my head tomorrow.

My advice on the job, though, is take it. Be sure to ask for a lot of money though, because cost of living is pretty steep! (note the $3 Monster drink)

jiesen
07-07-2005, 10:04 PM
Next time you go in there, ask the clerk if the Monster is moving. Each convenience store is a microcosm of their entire unit sales picture. If same store sales are up AND they are expanding their distribution into more and more stores, their numbers reported in early August will be pornographic.

Go ahead and ask him..and report back to this thread. In fact, why don't all of you ask your local deli guy if Monster is moving. Let's do some grass roots research.

My guy told me sales were up 30% over just LAST MONTH!!

Sure thing, $$MM! I'll visit a different deli each day and ask them the same thing about their Monsters, and if they haven't got 'em I'll demand that they get 'em!

"A smart man buys stocks that go up. A smarter man MAKES his stock go up!"

mrmarket
07-07-2005, 10:22 PM
Sure thing, $$MM! I'll visit a different deli each day and ask them the same thing about their Monsters, and if they haven't got 'em I'll demand that they get 'em!

"A smart man buys stocks that go up. A smarter man MAKES his stock go up!"

Report back what they say...I am really curious.

jiesen
07-08-2005, 03:22 AM
Report back what they say...I am really curious.

Ok, well I stopped by a 76 station on the way home from work, and checked out their mini-mart. They were stocked full of not only Monster drinks, but several other similar-type beverages, all sporting the same type of look. The Monsters were the most prominently displayed, though.

I went to the clerk to ask him how the Monsters were selling, and how long they had them there. He said they were selling them like crazy, and I asked which drinks he meant, since there were several types of the energy drinks. He said specifically the Monsters. I also asked how long they had been selling them, and he said "like, forever." I tried to get more info out of him, but he didn't seem so interested in talking unless I was either going to cough up the 2.50 for the drink, or the 2.79/gallon for gas. Of course, you'd never catch me paying that much, when I could run right down the street to Arco and get it for 2.59. (the gas, not the drink)

I think tomorrow I'll have better luck getting numbers from a deli guy who's actually going to feed me, rather than a gas station attendant I'm only there to annoy.

Well, I dunno about the rest of the country, but so far it looks like the Monster is a hit in SD at 2.50-3.00/can. (or 2.29 and 2.85 plus tax)

mrmarket
07-08-2005, 07:16 AM
Good work Jiesen....ok..how about the rest of my snoops out there? Who else thinks that smashing the August numbers is a layup?

billyjoe
07-08-2005, 02:33 PM
Reporting from North Central Ohio. At our largest store in town (population 1000) the owner says 'Monster' is selling very well at 1.99. He also said in the past he carried what he called 'Hansens energy drink' and it was terrible. This may have been a few years ago. Also was somewhat surprised to see they dumped KKD and haven't replaced them with a substitute.

billyjoe

jiesen
07-08-2005, 04:15 PM
Well, today I struck out in my quest for a Monster Energy drink. I visited another deli down the road, but found that they did not carry the Monster. I guess this store just isn't quite as well-stocked as most around here, but I asked the clerk/(owner?) whether he carried it before. He told me that he hasn't, but that people keep asking him about it. So I may have gotten him to think that he probably should start carrying it. Anyway, I told him he should get it, but my guess is he won't get around to it. Maybe I'll visit him again next week to check, and bring buddies with me to either demand he stock the stuff or we picket his place.

Websman
07-08-2005, 04:22 PM
Hey, maybe I should get a case of Monster to drink while I'm getting blasted by Hurricane Dennis. Yea, I think I will.

Huuricane party at my house on Sunday! You're all invited!

B.J
07-08-2005, 04:24 PM
Jiesen (RE: Los Angeles), I go out of my way to isolate myself from the freeways as much as possible. I work in Mahattan Beach, but live in Lomita. I find life much easier that way :D

$$MM$$ and the rest of the "snoops", do you find that convenient stores/gas stations carry monster, or grocers, too? Since this is a popular energy drink, I'll make a tour of health/yuppie grocers such as Trader Joe's, Whole Foods and Bristol Farms. I'll tell the board about it Sunday.

ninner
07-10-2005, 02:46 AM
Hey Jiesen, thanks for the info...sounds like a great place to live...im strongly considering it...just a few things i have to weight!!! Hope all is well

cheers
ninner


Yeah, BJ, let me know when you plan to be in town, and we can grab a bite at one of our many fine eateries around here. But back to the topic of beautiful SD, there really isn't any place like it, imo. I grew up a spoiled So Cal brat in OC, so naturally, I am hugely biased towards California for its excellent weather, beaches, bustling economy. But after moving to SD for school, I realized this place is so much better than anywhere else in CA, and therefore the world. I think SD is a bit more laid back than the rest of the major metro areas in southern California, and it used to be a lot more sparsely populated, though this has changed a lot in the past decade. Traffic is getting a bit worse as a result, but it's still nowhere near what you'd have to deal with in LA. As far as places to live in SD, #1 place to be is La Jolla, if you can afford $10M+ for a home. Otherwise, try UTC area or Pacific Beach for more affordable, and more fun places to reside. I live in Clairemont, since it's probably the cheapest area that's decent, and central to the area. I hate long commutes, and living here makes it easy no matter where in SD I happen to work (which tends to change every few years, due to my profession). You couldn't pay me enough to take a job outside of SD. Anyway, I could go on and on about the great things about living here in SD, but if I don't get at least something done tonight my boss will have my head tomorrow.

My advice on the job, though, is take it. Be sure to ask for a lot of money though, because cost of living is pretty steep! (note the $3 Monster drink)

mrmarket
07-11-2005, 12:22 PM
Looks like the Monster is off and smokin!

Websman
07-11-2005, 05:31 PM
I drank a Monster Energy Drink and laughed in the face of danger as Hurricane Dennis came ripping through my neighborhood... It's a miracle drink!

jiesen
07-11-2005, 09:45 PM
Looks like the Monster is off and smokin!

Yes, you can't deny the unstoppable upward march of HANS stock, but... today's data point for the San Diego Monster Deli study is not quite as impressive.

I stopped in a Schlotzsky's Deli today and had a interesting conversation with the proprietor there. This was by far the least flattering review of the Monster Energy drink I've encountered yet. I noticed the Monster on the shelf in the fridge there, and asked how much it was. "Two-fifty," he told me. Were they selling well? "Not really... I don't know why we got them in here." Then I axed him. I mean, I asked him how long they have had them in stock, and he told me that it was just a couple weeks ago they started to sell them. Also, he told me the reason they cost a lot more than the other drinks they sell is that they have to pay $2 to get them. So it could be that they're just new there, or the fact that they aren't really well-stocked in them, and don't put them out there very prominently in that store... or this particular store isn't the type to cater to your typical Monster drinker. But my guess why they don't sell too many there is the same reason I didn't buy one- this was the only deli I've visited so far where the Monster had to compete with a free-refill soda machine. So I got all the caffeine and sugar I wanted for about a buck less.

This means that in SD we're only batting 0.500 so far, but hey... if it were baseball, that wouldn't be bad, would it? At any rate it's enough for the stock to be up 7% in less than a week, so I wouldn't count on having too many other data points before it's all irrelevant anyway... my guess is we will be able to sell this stock at 103 within a week or two.

jiesen
07-13-2005, 03:32 PM
Visited yet another local deli here, and got another nugget of info out of the clerk. This Monster cost 2.69, but it was worth it, as I only slept for a few hours last night, and the one cup of coffee I had earlier just wasn't going to do it for me today. Although I can't see myself drinking these every day, I just may make a weekly habit of getting one as long as I own HANS stock. The taste is beginning to grow on me.

Anyway, according to this clerk, the Monsters are really moving here, and so are the "Rock Star" energy drinks. He says they're great because they're much bigger than the Red Bull, and that they've been selling tons of them forever. Sounds pretty much like most of the delis in the immediate vicinity. Maybe it's the industrial-type area I'm in, or something. The Schlotzsky's was in quite a different part of town, and maybe the drink is better-suited to people on lunch breaks.

So the stats are so far 3/5 positive reviews. I'll have to go back to visit that other deli without the Monster and force the numbers up to 4/5. Then we'll have market saturation!

mtm
07-14-2005, 07:13 PM
Took a nice $4 short on this today and then reversed long for a $1.50.

Nice HANS, the ultimate training tool for the master day-trader today.

New-born baby
07-14-2005, 07:37 PM
Here's today's action on HANS;
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3567/chart29ty.th.gif (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chart29ty.gif)

skiracer
07-14-2005, 08:32 PM
I like the stock but it has been steadily trending up without any real consolidation of those gains. Could be setting up for some digestion of those gains. Typical day for a stock after a day like yesterday where the low of the day was below 95 and retail guys came in an bought up what they thought was a bargain at around 94. They may be right but this stock has been trying to breakdown for the last two days and today was an example of that. The low of the day was right where it turned around yesterday but just couldn't recoup all of what it lost. Those last two candles on the 15 minute chart, hanging man and a doji, give a good indication of indecision on the part of buyers coming back into it. Strictly retail buyers thinking the same play as yesterday was in the works but it didn't have the interest on the buyers side to accompolish what it did yesterday. I would be real careful with this one. Next stop could easily be 92.50 or even 90. This could easily breakdown tomorrow. Might just be a nice short setup in the AM again. Worth keeping an eye on it. Wouldn't be looking to get long on this one right now.

New Born,
Just kidding with you, but of course HANS will be ok if it doesn't come under any heavy selling pressure tomorrow. A very profound statement. That could apply to every stock in the markets.

Websman
07-14-2005, 08:40 PM
Uh....I did have something to say...but I changed my mind and edited it. :)
carry on...

mrmarket
07-14-2005, 08:57 PM
Day traders make me laugh. They have the attention span of a flea. This race is a not a sprint. It is a long run and the winners are the ones with:

Earnings

Earnings

Earnings

skiracer
07-14-2005, 09:09 PM
Can't agree with you there MM. Way to much of a generalization and classifiying alot of very intelligent people into a lower level grouping.
It's whoever makes the most money at this using whatever discipline or strategy's they can in the time allotted to them in their lifetime.
I thought MTM's strategy's with HANS today was worthy of pretty high marks. It takes a knowing individual to realize the setup and make the play whichever way they see it going. New Born says he has been daytrading GOOG recently. He should be rich after the last couple of days. You can't compromise that especially when you are the one who ends up with the money.
I think you may have also slighted some of our esteemed group and their trading tactics with that one.
I say any port in a storm with all of this if the plan is well thought out and holds water.

mrmarket
07-14-2005, 09:17 PM
Can't agree with you there MM. Way to much of a generalization and classifiying alot of very intelligent people into a lower level grouping.
It's whoever makes the most money at this using whatever discipline or strategy's they can in the time allotted to them in their lifetime.
I thought MTM's strategy's with HANS today was worthy of pretty high marks. It takes a knowing individual to realize the setup and make the play whichever way they see it going. New Born says he has been daytrading GOOG recently. He should be rich after the last couple of days. You can't compromise that especially when you are the one who ends up with the money.
I think you may have also slighted some of our esteemed group and their trading tactics with that one.
I say any port in a storm with all of this if the plan is well thought out and holds water.


There's more than one way to skin a cat. I want everyone to make money. I'd rather not work at it though. Onward!

mrmarket
07-14-2005, 09:18 PM
and day traders still make me laugh. That's not a bad thing.

skiracer
07-14-2005, 09:34 PM
I know a few who make me laugh an I'm sure I provide them the same enlightening moments with some of my antics. Like you said "onward". I agree with wanting to see everyone make money.

New-born baby
07-14-2005, 09:37 PM
New Born says he has been daytrading GOOG recently. He should be rich after the last couple of days.

I'd have been richer if I held it overnight . . . up $7 in the pre-market today.

New-born baby
07-14-2005, 09:40 PM
and day traders still make me laugh. That's not a bad thing.

MM,
I'd like to know what you think of ENG. Yes, it made your top five. I was somewhat surprized at that because it was such a low buck play. Of your top five, was ENG your #2 pick? And do earnings really look that strong for ENG? Would you buy ENG? And anything else you might tell us would be appreciated.

spikefader
07-14-2005, 10:22 PM
Took a nice $4 short on this today...You did? Hmm, not sure I believe you :D Maybe a papertrade short?

spikefader
07-14-2005, 10:25 PM
...might just be a nice short setup in the AM again...People won't be shorting this puppy tomorrow :D There may be longs exiting, but no shorters...

mrmarket
07-14-2005, 10:42 PM
MM,
I'd like to know what you think of ENG. Yes, it made your top five. I was somewhat surprized at that because it was such a low buck play. Of your top five, was ENG your #2 pick? And do earnings really look that strong for ENG? Would you buy ENG? And anything else you might tell us would be appreciated.

ENG wasn't #2. Its earnings obviously have ridden the coattaiils of the oil price runup. One thing to remember is that this company has been profitable for the last few years, when oil prices were still in the $20s. So even if oil prices slide back to the $40's there will still be a lot of demand for these oilfield services.

So I would say looking forward, you could expect strong earnings from ENG. At this point I am not a buyer, however.

I don't think it ever showed up in any of my past data dumps. It made the top 5 primarily because of 12 month price momentum and r^2 coefficient.

New-born baby
07-15-2005, 06:38 AM
Thanks for the info, Mr Market!

mtm
07-15-2005, 09:15 AM
You did? Hmm, not sure I believe you :D Maybe a papertrade short?

LOL, Not sure why you think one would not short any stock on a day-trade, but if you don't believe thats fine.

spikefader
07-15-2005, 09:30 AM
LOL, Not sure why you think one would not short any stock on a day-trade, but if you don't believe thats fine.Not all stocks are shortable though.... and HANS appears to be one of them. http://www.interactivebrokers.co.uk/contract_info/index.php?action=Details&conid=4812642 see "Shortable: No" in the link.
It's also listed by IB as Restricted under Reg SHO. http://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/trading/ViewShortableStocks.php?cntry=regSHO&tag=Reg%20SHO&ib_entity=llc&ln=
Which broker did you use?

mtm
07-15-2005, 02:50 PM
Well I don't use IB I use CyberTrader. Sorry IB does'nt have much to short.

skiracer
07-15-2005, 07:02 PM
Spike,
This is interesting. I think the key terminology here is that HANS may not be shortable via the IB system. Other online brokerages may offer the stock for shorting thru their system. I'm pretty sure OSTK can be shorted thru some brokerages and that one is on the list. I can't qualify what brokerages as I only deal with Muriel Siebert and Options Xpress with my own trading. But I'm pretty sure about that. And with that new regulation the list changes from time to time. Stocks are listed and taken off from time to time depending on the brokerage. The SEC just wants to make sure that someone is holding the stock that is being shorted. That still doesn't prove anything one way or another as far as what actually took place.

spikefader
07-15-2005, 08:18 PM
Yeah, it is interesting ski. As far as IB goes, I've found them to be very good as far as their shortable stock availability (and I've been particularly impressed that IB allow shorting of sub $5.00 stocks when other brokers won't). But in hindsight I was perhaps wrong to assume from that "stock attributes" link that HANS was without question unshortable.

Curiously today I was told by another that HANS was unavailable for shorting at Cybertrader broker too, so go figure. But maybe it WAS available yesterday for mtm. Bottom line, I assumed that because it was SHO restricted and IB didn't have it available that mtm was attempting to win the liar-liar-pants-on-fire award, or maybe he was being tongue-in-cheek about shorting a stock MM is bullish and long with :D But mtm, no offence intended and I was half dubious/half light-hearted when I posted it, but apologies for any interpreted poor attitude on my behalf. It's Friday and I'm having steak and a couple glasses of 'red' to unwind and contemplate the hugeness of this board and MM :D

jiesen
07-15-2005, 08:39 PM
Well I don't use IB I use CyberTrader. Sorry IB does'nt have much to short.

Or to long, either, according to Newborn (unable to obtain GFCI.PK through IB).

skiracer
07-15-2005, 08:44 PM
Spike,
I was just curious and really am not an authority on the topic. I do know that what you pointed out is true about the Reg. SHO so it is a valid point.
Boy you are lurking in the shadows with your eye on all of us huh.
Enjoy that red Spike an always good to see your posts.

New-born baby
07-15-2005, 08:55 PM
Or to long, either, according to Newborn (unable to obtain GFCI.PK through IB).

Yes, I punch in GFCI.PK and a pop up comes up saying "this stock is not authorized for my account or is not available." I would like to pick up some shares.

Hey Jiesen, do you have to buy these shares via calling your broker on the phone? When I had Scottrade, .pk stocks were 'unavailable' thru the streamer.

jiesen
07-15-2005, 09:52 PM
Yes, I punch in GFCI.PK and a pop up comes up saying "this stock is not authorized for my account or is not available." I would like to pick up some shares.

Hey Jiesen, do you have to buy these shares via calling your broker on the phone? When I had Scottrade, .pk stocks were 'unavailable' thru the streamer.

Nope, I just enter the trade in through the streamer, or the "trading" menu just like every other order. I have noticed that some of the less liquid stocks on the pink sheets are not available, but GFCI is available. I did have to call them once since an order that I had didn't execute when I thought it should have (GFCI traded .01 below my bid that day), but they explained to me that due to the fact that it's trading on the pinks, the MMs don't have to play by the same rules as NASDAQ, so I wasn't necessarily due the shares I thought I was. I'm glad Scottrade was able to explain this to me, and I'm not sure IB can provide the same level of support, so maybe they stay away from the many stocks that might bring on such headaches as myself. Anyway, as it turns out, I'm glad the order didn't fill that day, since I ended up getting it cheaper later at 0.41 as a result.

Websman
07-15-2005, 09:56 PM
Or to long, either, according to Newborn (unable to obtain GFCI.PK through IB).

Etrade has it available.

mtm
07-15-2005, 10:05 PM
Guys, it was just a day-trade! I have shorted GOOG many times too, but beleive it is the biggest bull train out there. I think MM's long call on HANS was a good one. And yes, sometimes Cyber will have short shares one day and none the next. Sometimes Cyber will have short shares one minute and then 5 minutes later they will have none.

If I was so bearish on HANS, I would not have turned around and went long after I went short.

IT WAS JUST A TRADE!

mrmarket
07-15-2005, 10:15 PM
Guys, it was just a day-trade! I have shorted GOOG many times too, but beleive it is the biggest bull train out there. I think MM's long call on HANS was a good one. And yes, sometimes Cyber will have short shares one day and none the next. Sometimes Cyber will have short shares one minute and then 5 minutes later they will have none.

If I was so bearish on HANS, I would not have turned around and went long after I went short.

IT WAS JUST A TRADE!


That's what I meant...the daytraders, or whatever you want to call them, are playing a completely different game than the longer term investors such as myself. I'm not saying any method is better than any other method as it is obviously a matter of personal choice. I would say that daytrading seems to be a lot more work.

It only takes me a little more than an hour to pick a $$$MM$$$ stock. It takes me a little longer to do my writeup for you slobs. It seems most daytraders are watching the screen all day. So there is some sweat equity involved. Of course, if you love it, then it is time well spent.

Having said all that, I sometimes wonder why there aren't any (that I know of anyways) mutual funds or hedge funds built around daytrading as the principle means of asset appreciation. Seems to me that if there was a stud daytrader out there who could constantly annihalate market returns, people would be creaming to give him their money to play with.

A little off topic, but worth a few comments.

By the way, ON TOPIC, HANS is more than halfway to my target. I am HUGE!

skiracer
07-15-2005, 10:33 PM
I have changed direction on short plays intraday as you did, which in my opinion was a good play on your part. Being nimble enough to do that is also commendable. The question wasn't whether you're bearish or bullish on the stock but whether or not the short play really took place. You can appreciate anyone having doubts when the info in front of them disputes what you stated. Like certain honor systems we all share a common trust here and violating that only hurts the perputrator. No big deal one way or another. You can't blame people for examining and questioning anyone's posts regarding their actions. It's all part of what comes with the postings and when you give it some thought it makes sense to do so.

mrmarket
07-15-2005, 10:43 PM
What Skiracer says is important. I hope everyone in this forum can see that I always make full disclosure on my picks. My record is indisputable. There are thousands of witnesses. How come the people over at IBD still don't believe me?

jiesen
07-15-2005, 11:04 PM
What Skiracer says is important. I hope everyone in this forum can see that I always make full disclosure on my picks. My record is indisputable. There are thousands of witnesses. How come the people over at IBD still don't believe me?

It must be that they're just idiots. Why do you care what they think, anyway? You are HUGE!

Also, I agree with that full disclosure is part of what makes you so HUGE. It's why I try to do the same thing and disclose all of my trades here as well, so one day I might be HUGE like you.

Oh, yeah, and HANS is HUGE! We're gonna see 103 next week, imo.

sowersnc
07-16-2005, 12:36 AM
Ok I was out tonight and had to stop by the local Hy-Vee(Iowa supermarket chain) and Monster was well stocked. More importantly I had to stop at a Casey's(Iowa convenence store) it was stocked with four rows.

The reason I think this is more important is this. This is store chain does not have alot of shelf space and they decided to stock Monster. Also if one store has it all of them will likely have it. They have a couple hundred stores in the rural Iowa. So if they are getting Monster stocked here, it was for some good reason.$$$$$

I have share of HANS and look forward to unloading in a week or two. That target is looking close.

I also bought a small position in SEB a week ago and have gotten a good beating. When you were doing research were you able to find any future projections on it? I have not had any luck.

Thanks for site and posting your picks, it is a great site.


YOU ARE HUGE!!!!!

mrmarket
07-16-2005, 08:44 AM
Ok I was out tonight and had to stop by the local Hy-Vee(Iowa supermarket chain) and Monster was well stocked. More importantly I had to stop at a Casey's(Iowa convenence store) it was stocked with four rows.

The reason I think this is more important is this. This is store chain does not have alot of shelf space and they decided to stock Monster. Also if one store has it all of them will likely have it. They have a couple hundred stores in the rural Iowa. So if they are getting Monster stocked here, it was for some good reason.$$$$$

I have share of HANS and look forward to unloading in a week or two. That target is looking close.

I also bought a small position in SEB a week ago and have gotten a good beating. When you were doing research were you able to find any future projections on it? I have not had any luck.

Thanks for site and posting your picks, it is a great site.


YOU ARE HUGE!!!!!

HANS had SEB beat "HANS down" so to speak on many of my simple metrics, so I did not do much thorough research on SEB. Perhaps you can start an SEB thread and see what everyone else throws out there on it.

mtm
07-17-2005, 04:54 PM
Having said all that, I sometimes wonder why there aren't any (that I know of anyways) mutual funds or hedge funds built around daytrading as the principle means of asset appreciation. Seems to me that if there was a stud daytrader out there who could constantly annihalate market returns, people would be creaming to give him their money to play with.



There are a handful that I know of out there that do make very nice money day-trading and do get paid 400 to 600 a month to make calls and have the penguins follow them.

I do very well daytrading, but don't have the dedication of holding up other day-traders at any cost. Plus I like to come and go as I please and one cannot do that if I offered a service that soley depends me.

As far as trading positions go... I do futures, day-trading, swing trading, long-term and so on. My main reason for daytrading is I like the challenge of going against millions of other traders.

skiracer
07-17-2005, 05:31 PM
There is an outfit called Morpheus Trading Group run by a guy named Deron Wagner and his partner Peter Rezniak. Deron leans much more to the short term swing trade and Peter is strictly day trade. You can subscribe to their service and follow their picks on stocks and ETF's. They also run a hedge fund which does very well.
Believe me when I tell you they do very well and beat all the markets consistently with their day and swing trades. I've mentioned their site and service several times here because you can get a free months trial to both the ETF and stocks if you want and get an education in T/A and I would be willing to bet that you would much more than pay for both the services from their picks.

mrmarket
07-17-2005, 05:57 PM
There is an outfit called Morpheus Trading Group run by a guy named Deron Wagner and his partner Peter Rezniak. Deron leans much more to the short term swing trade and Peter is strictly day trade. You can subscribe to their service and follow their picks on stocks and ETF's. They also run a hedge fund which does very well.
Believe me when I tell you they do very well and beat all the markets consistently with their day and swing trades. I've mentioned their site and service several times here because you can get a free months trial to both the ETF and stocks if you want and get an education in T/A and I would be willing to bet that you would much more than pay for both the services from their picks.

Do you think they ever comsumed Monster Energy Drink?

skiracer
07-17-2005, 06:35 PM
I asked them about that the other day and their reply was that they not only drink the drink but they like to eat the cans afterwards just to get their total moneys worth as the drink is quite expensive.

New-born baby
07-18-2005, 09:14 AM
Spiked up $3.10 in pre-market. WOW.

mrmarket
07-18-2005, 11:34 AM
Look ma! No HANS!! Closing in on my target...soon?

nwinvestor
07-18-2005, 12:06 PM
Jul 18, 2005 (M2 EQUITYBITES via COMTEX) -- Hansen Natural Corporation (HANS), a developer and marketer of beverages, has announced the declaration of a 2-for-1 split of its common stock which will be effected in the form of a 100% stock dividend.

Shareholders will be entitled to receive one additional share for each share held. The new shares will be distributed via mail or electronically on or after 8 August 2005 to holders of common stock on record as of the close of business on 1 August 2005.

New-born baby
07-18-2005, 01:19 PM
Look ma! No HANS!! Closing in on my target...soon?

Within .20 of your sell price.

Gary611
07-18-2005, 04:20 PM
I finally got to purchase & taste a can of this Monster drink. All I can say is" 'MOE, LARRY, $$mr.market$$,,,, cheese!!!!!
THIS STUFF TASTES REALLY BAD!!!
I'm talkin' Hughie Lewis & the News BAD!! But, almost at my $102 & change sell point, I am wondering if it will reach that before the split. (Aug.1) This is a good company, I am thinking of holding on for a spell. Haven't decided yet, I don't want to get too greedy, just play the game, ya know.

mrmarket
07-18-2005, 04:43 PM
I finally got to purchase & taste a can of this Monster drink. All I can say is" 'MOE, LARRY, $$mr.market$$,,,, cheese!!!!!
THIS STUFF TASTES REALLY BAD!!!
I'm talkin' Hughie Lewis & the News BAD!! But, almost at my $102 & change sell point, I am wondering if it will reach that before the split. (Aug.1) This is a good company, I am thinking of holding on for a spell. Haven't decided yet, I don't want to get too greedy, just play the game, ya know.

Your information may do wonders for Consumer Reports but does nothing for your fellow investors. Go back to your purchase point and ask them how the Monster is selling. Are sales accelerating? If so, one would expect that we will see accelerating earnings.

Gary611
07-18-2005, 07:11 PM
Well, one does not have to like this drink to invest in the stock; there is obviously a more interest in this drink than me, the 3rd stooge! The great taste of it's profit will surely be sweet, indeed!!
I bought it at a gas stop on RT.395 in Conn. I asked the cashier about sales, & he said, the new low carb Monster drink was selling faster than the regular one. So, I bought the low carb can. He says all the drinks just fly off the shelves, I guess it's the 'keep awake while your driving' concept, It got my peachfuzz up alright!! WU,WU,WU! NYUK,NYUK,NYUK!
Maybe I'll try to see if it is selling here on Long Island. 7/11 probably has it, I'll go in for a peek...............Do I dare drink one? We'll see!!

skiracer
07-18-2005, 07:23 PM
Gary,
These stocks always taste better when sweetened with the fine taste of financial gain.

sowersnc
07-19-2005, 11:16 AM
I'm out. Thank you for the write up.

I would like to fall in love with this stock. But bad things happen to my account when I do that.

Mr. Market you are HUGE!!!!

jiesen
07-19-2005, 11:27 AM
HANS hit my limit this morning at 103.2, so I'm out with a 15% gain on this one. Thanks for the excellent pick, $$MM, you are HUGE!!!!!!!!

bobc
07-20-2005, 12:38 PM
I got in a little late on this one. Do you think will grow to $59/share?

jiesen
01-13-2006, 01:33 PM
HANS hit my limit this morning at 103.2, so I'm out with a 15% gain on this one. Thanks for the excellent pick, $$MM, you are HUGE!!!!!!!!

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=HANS&t=1y&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=

Wow, HANS just hit $103 again, after a 2:1 split. Talk about an amazing stock...

df21084
03-27-2006, 11:35 AM
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=HANS&t=1y&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=

Wow, HANS just hit $103 again, after a 2:1 split. Talk about an amazing stock...

Jiesen,

Is HANS still on your radar? It's trading at $114.79 this morning. Talk about an amazing stock! I'm looking to get back into this one.

jiesen
03-27-2006, 12:05 PM
no, it never got cheap enough for me to get seriously interested again, so I've sort of forgotten about it. but thanks for reminding me of how much I left on the table by selling at $51.6! lol