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IIC

01-02-2006, 11:27 PM

Lyehopper

01-02-2006, 11:51 PM

Geez Lye...So many rules.

Also, I would like to voice my objection...the first week should count...the market doesn't stop because someone is on vacation...And anyway...who takes vacation this week anyway again?

Also...I think you meant 1/09...not 12/09.

And also...she is not my girlfriend.

And also again...since you are going with "Cash"...I'm going with First Cash...FCFS long this week...although I'm not interested in possibly buying it unless it cracks 30...Happy New Year...Doug(IIC)
Yes IIC.... BUT.... they are very simple rules. I could have made just one long complicated rule but I opted for 10 simple ones.lol And just wait till Spike and Ski get through advising me dude!!! We'll have to offer a instructional video or something like that.lol

yes.... I meant Jan not Dec.... my mind should clear up by mid spring.

yeah!.... SSSSURE she ain't Doug.... wink wink.

Hey I'm not going with the stock (ticker) "CASH".... I'm going into "cash" you know as in a cash position.... I now refer you to the 10 simple rules again.hehehe.... You can pick cash as your opening position now and be entered!.... So now you can just sit in cash till your FCFS shows it can break resistance and hits $30 Doug. Cool huh? Hey!!! and you can always short sell it if that SHS fully develops.

btw... thanks IIC, you're-da-best dude....

skiracer

01-02-2006, 11:55 PM

I was just offering up my thoughts and feelings. It's ok with me just the way Lye has been running it. He's doing a great job and that's fine with me.

Lyehopper

01-02-2006, 11:56 PM

hey lye this is my first week participating in POTW so here goes nothing..

I pick NOVA Long
Welcome to BillyJoe's hijacked POTW dude!.... look forward to seeing your picks!

Lyehopper

01-03-2006, 12:02 AM

I was just offering up my thoughts and feelings. It's ok with me just the way Lye has been running it. He's doing a great job and that's fine with me.
I value you input Ski. Keep those ideas rollin.... We need a minimum of 20 rules so We can hire IIC @ $250k to be head instructor over the POTW rules course at the MMIHSP.... $$$Mr. Market$$$ institute of HUGE stock picking.

Lyehopper

01-03-2006, 12:13 AM

Also...I think you meant 1/09...not 12/09.

Hey Doug check out the title of the Friday's scorecard post I made earlier.sheesh! LOL.... betcha didn't know Dec had that many days huh?.... SEE what I mean IIC? we really DO need a warm up week DUDE!!!!

ParkTwain

01-03-2006, 12:22 AM

Webs,
Nothing directed at you or anyone. Just much easier to get a larger % gain on the under $5 and lower stocks in my opinion. Just my feelings and no big one way or another. I do feel that it is a strategy to get the larger % gain an if you own them it's great. Takes alot less to move to a much larger % gain with the cheaper ones than with one over $15 or $20. I just feel that raising the limit to $5 an above would make it that much more interesting or even to $10 an above. Try it out and compare the % gains to previous weeks.

Maybe we should think about this as a (3-months, for instance) daily average dollar volume criteria to be used as an entry in the POTW. Such as a $1M daily dollar volume minimum criteria.

I personally think the sub-$5 stocks are a pipe dream as a pick for a "portfolio" and even in many cases as a trading play. As a for instance, Spike's winner BEL traded a whopping 500 shares total in the first couple of hours last Friday. This is not a security where one can take a significant trading position ($10K, for instance) without moving the market in that stock that day. So the POTW might be serving only as an academic exercise that has little usefulness in the real world.

Lyehopper

01-03-2006, 12:30 AM

Maybe we should think about this as a (3-months, for instance) daily average dollar volume criteria to be used as an entry in the POTW. Such as a $1M daily dollar volume minimum criteria.

I personally think the sub-$5 stocks are a pipe dream as a pick for a "portfolio" as opposed to a trading play. BEL traded a whopping 500 shares total in the first couple of hours last Friday. This is not a security where one can take a significant trading position ($10K, for instance) without totally messing up the stock that day. So the POTW can turn out to be only an academic exercise that has little usefulness in the real world.
Good point Park.... Thus the #5 Rule.

Seriously fellas keep these sugestions flowing here. We'll revise the rules for Volume, Price and allow Limits by the end of the week and I'll post the revised rules before next weeks contest.

ParkTwain

01-03-2006, 12:30 AM

Pick for this upcoming week - DDD (long).

spikefader

01-03-2006, 02:35 AM

Ya, I agree that BEL's volume is very low. I'd pumped myself up so much with that write up that I just HAD to pick it! And I sometimes feel the way ski does about the cheapies. I'd be happy with minimum rule and volume rule. Whatever is going to make everyone happy.

New_born...I have feeling you are correct about the market. It could get ugly and fast this week. I probably should be shorting in POTW.

Lye, cancel my previous pick and short NTY for me will ya.

sisterwin2

01-03-2006, 09:03 AM

MMP ----- Long.

mimo_100

01-03-2006, 09:11 AM

It's going to be a tough January for the Bulls.

I will start out the new year in cash, thank you Lye.

Congratulations Bucks.

Tim

The Photon

01-03-2006, 09:26 AM

this week I will go wilr LUFK long -

01-03-2006, 10:04 AM

My dart hit SKIL

billyjoe

01-03-2006, 10:17 AM

Lye,
NGAS short

billyjoe

Gatorman

01-03-2006, 10:26 AM

I'll take AAPL long.

New-born baby

01-03-2006, 10:49 AM

I want to short WMT from $46.56.

sowersnc

01-03-2006, 11:28 AM

I want UNH long

spikefader

01-03-2006, 12:20 PM

I want to short WMT from $46.56.Lye, I'll track this limit order if you like. I see there's a late print up there since NB's post that I don't think qualifies as an entry. And actually, by doing market orders at the time of post would avoid any question of whether a late print is in fact a fill. Anyway NB, do you see what I mean about that late print?

Lyehopper

01-03-2006, 12:44 PM

Lye, I'll track this limit order if you like. I see there's a late print up there since NB's post that I don't think qualifies as an entry. And actually, by doing market orders at the time of post would avoid any question of whether a late print is in fact a fill. Anyway NB, do you see what I mean about that late print?
That's cool Spike..... Being a test week, we'll see how it works out dude. Good to see NB-Baby playin too ain't it?

OK I'll use this post to enter my pick.... ECOL (long).... it just hit my retracement target.

jiesen

01-03-2006, 01:20 PM

That's cool Spike..... Being a test week, we'll see how it works out dude. Good to see NB-Baby playin too ain't it?

OK I'll use this post to enter my pick.... ECOL (long).... it just hit my retracement target.

Since the contest is back on, I'd like to (re)pick AMLN long.

Lyehopper

01-03-2006, 03:46 PM

.... my pick.... ECOL (long).... it just hit my retracement target.
Look at ECOL's intraday chart would ya?! My POTW entry was 14.06....hehehe

spikefader

01-03-2006, 03:52 PM

Nice!

Kicking myself for not sticking with MDR. I'd be on your heels. That thing gonna be Creme of the Crop Superstar for SURE! :D

I have to seriously consider this NTY short. In some profit, but I'm gonna set breakeven stop.

jiesen

01-03-2006, 04:43 PM

Look at ECOL's intraday chart would ya?! My POTW entry was 14.06....hehehe

holy cow, Lye! nice pick. why didn't you tell us that THIS would be the time your pick jumps 10% in 3 hours?

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=ECOL&t=1d

Lyehopper

01-04-2006, 01:24 AM

I want to short WMT from $46.56.
Spike.... I show NBB's limit filled @ 10:55 AM So I've got him short WMT @ 46.56. Look right to you dude?

spikefader

01-04-2006, 03:05 AM

Spike.... I show NBB's limit filled @ 10:55 AM So I've got him short WMT @ 46.56. Look right to you dude?
The backfilla data does show it traded there don't it! Not a problem. I think I may be wrongly presuming that it was a late print. Sorry Newborn!

Lyehopper

01-04-2006, 03:12 AM

Karel

01-04-2006, 04:45 AM

I noticed several under $10 stocks on the list and checked their daily dollar volume. My method was (I used finance.yahoo.com):

1. Check the three month average daily volume
2. Check the lowest price over the last three months
3. Use these two numbers to compute a "daily dollar volume"

A possible objection could be that the price in the last three months has appreciated noticeably, but this rather proves the point than undermines it. For the sub-$10 stocks on the list, this means:

Ticker - avg vol 3m - lowest price 3m - $$$ volume

DDD - 137K - 3.77 - $516K
LINKE - 99K - 2.10 - $208K (E: Delinquent in required filings with the SEC)
NOVA - 43K - 6.00 - $252K
RGEN - 322K - 2.87 - $924K
RWC - 590K - 4.75 - $2803K
SKIL - 240K - 3.87 - $929K

It is my personal opinion that these stocks are more in the nature of happy-go-lucky (ttp://www.thefreedictionary.com/happy-go-lucky) stocks than that they are serious picks. I could be mistaken. But I think that stocks like these need a good fundamental story to be acceptable, if you want to give them a chance at all.

BTW: someone countered an argument against very volatile stocks by stating that the risk of loosing big was also present, so for the competition things would cancel out. But again, this was precisely the point of the objection: we want to win by picking stocks smartly, not by just raising the stakes. I might add that with very volatile stocks the "random walk" effect just kicks in stronger, so it might seem that some stock picker is really very good, while in reality that person has just scored a lucky break.

I wish everyone a lucky break, but I don't think that this is what Lye intended with this competition.

Regards,

Karel

Karel

01-04-2006, 04:55 AM

skiracer

01-04-2006, 07:07 AM

Now that's MORE LIKE IT fellas!!!! Looks like a rally to me. Let's make some $$$$!!!!

Pete H. has grabbed first with a "scientific" short pick this week.lol Good pick Pete.

I'm in second with ECOL.... and Gator's got 3rd....

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/9572/potw12057co.png (http://imageshack.us)

Lye,
Stockcharts and Medved Quotetracker both had PETS opening at $14.27. Check it out for me would you please.

http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/9835/pets27hu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/2280/pets33qr.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

New-born baby

01-04-2006, 09:30 AM

:)

And the POTW didn't do very well, really: up .6% on a day the markets really roared... I mean: was there an index that scored less than 1%?

Regards,

Karel

You REALLY know how to hurt a guy. :D

Lyehopper

01-04-2006, 10:07 AM

Lye,
Stockcharts and Medved Quotetracker both had PETS opening at $14.27. Check it out for me would you please.

http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/9835/pets27hu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/2280/pets33qr.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

SKI.... I'm sorry DUDE!.... I guess that at 2:00AM my eyes get a little crooked.lol.... Looks like I recorded the days high as the open! WOOPS! thanks for the call man.

HEY fellas check your score! I know it's hard to beleive but I DO screw up sometimes....hehehe

Ski you are GREEN not red and you fall right between IIC and Webs now. I'll correct it on tonights scorecard.

http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/4707/pets12062mr.png (http://imageshack.us)

ParkTwain

01-04-2006, 10:12 AM

Karel wrote:
//
I noticed several under $10 stocks on the list and checked their daily dollar volume. My method was (I used finance.yahoo.com):

1. Check the three month average daily volume
2. Check the lowest price over the last three months
3. Use these two numbers to compute a "daily dollar volume"
//

I would have suggested to first take the "avg. price" (avg. of lowest price and highest price during the 3 months) over the 3 months then multiply by the 3-mo avg daily volume. This way of deriving an avg is admittedly rough. An alternative could be to take the stock's current 90-day (3 month) exponential moving average as the "avg" price.

skiracer

01-04-2006, 10:18 AM

Lye,
Thanks bud. I had it at up +.49. But placing me between Doug and Webs. Ed not that way.

Lyehopper

01-04-2006, 10:28 AM

Different tune: last week CMCO opened way up over the previous close, causing me a loss in the POTW and a gain in my own portfolio. Now it opened way down, so I am looking at a loss in my real money portfolio and am in the green in the POTW. So things just cancel out :)

And the POTW didn't do very well, really: up .6% on a day the markets really roared... I mean: was there an index that scored less than 1%?

Regards,

Karel

Remember Karel this is a game first and foremost. It's supposed to be fun. The POTW is a weekly contest not a "index".... Don't think you understand my "H" factor experiment. Go back and study my thread. Portfolio management will be the success of the "H" factor experiment not the direct POTW overall averages. And the manager (me) is still workin on the "system"..... Now I suggest that you take a big drink of cold Apple Brandy, chill out and just play the game.... and TRY to have some fun DUDE!!!!.lol

ParkTwain

01-04-2006, 10:28 AM

Karel wrote:

//
Ticker - avg vol 3m - lowest price 3m - $$$ volume

DDD - 137K - 3.77 - $516K
LINKE - 99K - 2.10 - $208K (E: Delinquent in required filings with the SEC)
NOVA - 43K - 6.00 - $252K
RGEN - 322K - 2.87 - $924K
RWC - 590K - 4.75 - $2803K
SKIL - 240K - 3.87 - $929K
//

3 (DDD, RGEN, and SKIL) of these are breakout plays. That's a valid strategy for a stock of any price.

Regarding a minimum 90-day avg daily dollar volume, maybe $500K is a useful number. In a previous post I had suggested $1M. My point there is that the stock's daily trade should support one's taking a significant position ($10K) without moving the stock's market.

Karel didn't publish the 3-month volatility numbers for any of these, so what are we talking here?

New-born baby

01-04-2006, 10:46 AM

LYE:
Move my WMT short stop to even, please.

Karel

01-04-2006, 11:26 AM

3 (DDD, RGEN, and SKIL) of these are breakout plays. That's a valid strategy for a stock of any price.

Regarding a minimum 90-day avg daily dollar volume, maybe $500K is a useful number. In a previous post I had suggested $1M. My point there is that the stock's daily trade should support one's taking a significant position ($10K) without moving the stock's market.

Karel didn't publish the 3-month volatility numbers for any of these, so what are we talking here?
Well, there was some talk about avoiding thinly traded stocks and I decided to get down to cases. I also wanted to use as few calculations as possible, in case Lye wants to implement something like this. Volatility calculations are out then, I think. Lowest price is easy and severe enough to my taste. And I mentioned "fundamental story" to allow even this kind of stock. I don't think a technical story is enough. Of course it can be enough to justify the play, but I was talking about justifying the stock. If you see what I mean. But it all depends on whether Lye really wants a check like this, then we can start to bicker about details.

Regards,

Karel

Karel

01-04-2006, 11:30 AM

Remember Karel this is a game first and foremost. It's supposed to be fun. [...] ...and TRY to have some fun DUDE!!!!.lol
Hi Lye,

I think numbers are fun, so I am enjoying myself quite well. And I don't mind pulling the leg of someone who shouts for joy at a sub par performance. But then I may be a pervert :D

Regards,

Karel

mimo_100

01-04-2006, 11:47 AM

Lye,

OK, I'm movin' out of cash and chasing OXPS long

Tim

Lyehopper

01-04-2006, 02:29 PM

Hi Lye,

I think numbers are fun, so I am enjoying myself quite well. And I don't mind pulling the leg of someone who shouts for joy at a sub par performance. But then I may be a pervert :D

Regards,

Karel
Karel, Perhaps I shouted for joy cause I was up 10% on a stock I really owned.lol .... Plus I saw more fellas green (or even) than I saw red. But there again it was 2:00 AM and at that hour who knows what I was thinking.

btw.... I never actually averaged the scores last night. Glad you're havin fun dude. I think your ideas are good and I'll be revising the "RULES" before the weekend anyway..... Doug should really like that.hehehe

billyjoe

01-04-2006, 02:55 PM

Grebnet,
Any thoughts on EGY? I just bought some for the long term and was surprised to see it ranked in the top 100 by Greenblatt* (return on capital + earnings yield)

*The Little Book That Beats the Market (Wiley2006)

billyjoe

grebnet

01-04-2006, 03:05 PM

I sold my last bits in Feb and Mar at 4.84 and 4.56 . I havent had any interest in buying it back although I did make a little $ from it.I felt I couldnt ever get a grasp on how it was going to react to available news ,I dont like stocks that I dont understand.
I do think it is probably a good stock , justnot for me.

I have higher hopes fpr GW and also bought some BTJ this am. Im also holding some IO although Im a little unsure of it. ( all related to oil/gas industry)

spikefader

01-04-2006, 04:53 PM

You REALLY know how to hurt a guy. :D:) yep it seems Karel does.
Remember Karel this is a game first and foremost. It's supposed to be fun........ Now I suggest that you take a big drink of cold Apple Brandy, chill out and just play the game.... and TRY to have some fun DUDE!!!!.lol
Here here. Good for you Lye. Your skin is thicker from recent battles no doubt :D A lesser man would let karels nagging reminders about your work in progress get to them and outburst with expletives or sumfin :D hehe.
I think numbers are fun, so I am enjoying myself quite well. And I don't mind pulling the leg of someone who shouts for joy at a sub par performance. But then I may be a pervert :D
Regards,
KarelWell, it seems you're finding the competition between your fund and POTW (and your winning) the fun part. And hey, if you need the POTW competition to inspire you to put more attention into your own ports, fine.....but maybe you'd get more out of it if you picked a system that was genuinely a refined and successful product/system and try to match that.....oh, but it's not so fun to compare oneself to a winning system is it??? ....there's just no satisfaction....

Hey, I'm pretty easy going and like a good competition, but little stabs and patting yourself on the back seems a bit juvenile to me, and really not in the spirit of the board (i.e. we all liking to root for each other). Forgive me if I'm way off base here, and perhaps I'm just grumpy, but it's getting on my nerves karel. I think Lye's doin' a great job scorekeeping and trying to motivate everyone to play a game that can be fun just by participating. Lye has high expectations and can see the potential of the H factor and putting it into some 'system', and that's creativity and inspirational, even if it isn't worthy in your eyes. I think any comments you make should bear all that in mind instead of selfishly getting glory out of what I'd equate to a bully pickin' on someone who ain't growd up yet :D

skiracer

01-04-2006, 05:10 PM

:) yep it seems Karel does.

Here here. Good for you Lye. Your skin is thicker from recent battles no doubt :D A lesser man would let karels nagging reminders about your work in progress get to them and outburst with expletives or sumfin :D hehe.
Well, it seems you're finding the competition between your fund and POTW (and your winning) the fun part. And hey, if you need the POTW competition to inspire you to put more attention into your own ports, fine.....but maybe you'd get more out of it if you picked a system that was genuinely a refined and successful product/system and try to match that.....oh, but it's not so fun to compare oneself to a winning system is it??? ....there's just no satisfaction....

Hey, I'm pretty easy going and like a good competition, but little stabs and patting yourself on the back seems a bit juvenile to me, and really not in the spirit of the board (i.e. we all liking to root for each other). Forgive me if I'm way off base here, and perhaps I'm just grumpy, but it's getting on my nerves karel. I think Lye's doin' a great job scorekeeping and trying to motivate everyone to play a game that can be fun just by participating. Lye has high expectations and can see the potential of the H factor and putting it into some 'system', and that's creativity and inspirational, even if it isn't worthy in your eyes. I think any comments you make should bear all that in mind instead of selfishly getting glory out of what I'd equate to a bully pickin' on someone who ain't growd up yet :D

God this is so much different when you're not involved in it. Ya know it's usually me. I enjoy watching much more. Lye really is doing a great job for someone who ain't growed up yet but still makes a great apple brandy.

Karel

01-04-2006, 05:28 PM

spike, I think there are two things here: me pulling Lye's leg for his enthousiasm for a good day for the POTW (and a better day for the markets), and my genuine disappointment that the POTW, even without the H factor, doesn't do better. Perhaps that is also behind my hints against "Hail Mary" picks: I don't think they do the POTW much good. They might even spoil Lye's H factor, more is the trouble. I hope Lye knows that he has all my respect for keeping the POTW bubbling, and in case he doesn't <deep bow>I hope he does now</deep bow>.

Regards,

Karel

Websman

01-04-2006, 05:28 PM

God this is so much different when you're not involved in it. Ya know it's usually me. I enjoy watching much more. Lye really is doing a great job for someone who ain't growed up yet but still makes a great apple brandy.

I must say that he makes the finest Apple brandy I've ever tasted.

Runner

01-04-2006, 05:42 PM

Lye, I forgot to enter Monday. Oh well not good starting out at a -5%. I'll get on the ball next week!!

skiracer

01-04-2006, 05:43 PM

I must say that he makes the finest Apple brandy I've ever tasted.

I would have to agree. New Years eve I had a few of my buddies and their wives over to our house. These guys are definitely drinkers, not quite abusers, and can hold their liquor. Four of us had 3 rounds apiece and when I suggested a 4th there were no takers. Very potent, smooth as silk, and no afterburn. We had a fire going in the chimeria on the deck and no one needed a coat to sit outside.

Websman

01-04-2006, 05:43 PM

I'm stealing one of Steckler's picks...

I'll take BTJ long.

sisterwin2

01-04-2006, 07:57 PM

sisterwin2

01-04-2006, 08:32 PM

sell MMP stay in cash till I look further.

Websman

01-04-2006, 08:36 PM

I'm stealing one of Steckler's picks...

I'll take BTJ long.

Hold it. Do the new rules allow me to buy BTJ?

spikefader

01-04-2006, 08:47 PM

lol well fair enuf karel. Nice bow.

Webs, you thief! :D Hey, did yall know Steckler has an indicator named after him?! That's huge :D We're gonna be able to get some mileage outa that one Lye :D

Dena, I'd look rule 5 up, but Lye still hasn't put a stinkin' link in his signature and I'm too stinkin' lazy to go lookin'! :D Shoot MMP! Is that your pick?!?! Nice goin'. You rock!

IIC

01-04-2006, 09:01 PM

I would have to agree. New Years eve I had a few of my buddies and their wives over to our house. These guys are definitely drinkers, not quite abusers, and can hold their liquor. Four of us had 3 rounds apiece and when I suggested a 4th there were no takers. Very potent, smooth as silk, and no afterburn. We had a fire going in the chimeria on the deck and no one needed a coat to sit outside.

I think you had more than just a "FEW" cocktails...I got all excited when I read your post because I thought I learned a new word...However, Dictionary.com doesn't list "chimeria"...So I'm thinking maybe you meant "chimera"...Well, everybody knows that "chimera" means:

A fanciful mental illusion or fabrication.

At least that's one of the definitions they list.

I can see you now..."Hey Lye...Pass me another invisible log for the chimeria"

http://bestsmileys.com/drinking/5.gif

"Sure Ski...As soon as I put out that imaginary fire on your head"

http://bestsmileys.com/fire/2.gif

Websman

01-04-2006, 09:09 PM

Ain't nothing better than a few shots of some good hard liquor...

Lyehopper

01-05-2006, 01:44 AM

God this is so much different when you're not involved in it. Ya know it's usually me. I enjoy watching much more. Lye really is doing a great job for someone who ain't growed up yet but still makes a great apple brandy.
Hey DUDE! I never said I "made it"!.... I just knows a fella who knows a fella who knows another fella....lol.... If ya know what I mean?

Lyehopper

01-05-2006, 01:50 AM

Lye, I forgot to enter Monday. Oh well not good starting out at a -5%. I'll get on the ball next week!!
Your in good shape Runner.... This week dosen't count anyway.... We're callin it a "test week" LOL

The new 2006 points race begins 01-09-06. Hey! be sure to read the new rules this weekend. I'll post them as soon as I think up some new ones. We only got 10 rules, we need about double that.

Lyehopper

01-05-2006, 01:59 AM

Hold it. Do the new rules allow me to buy BTJ?
Yes Webs you are allowed to enter Stock any time during the week as long as you start the contest in cash. Now that's a great rule ain't it?.... Actually you can still play two (2) stocks before Friday ends DUDE!!!!

BJT looks good too.... HUGE GRT=29!!!! I'll buy it for you at Thursday's opening price.

Lyehopper

01-05-2006, 02:14 AM

I think you had more than just a "FEW" cocktails...I got all excited when I read your post because I thought I learned a new word...However, Dictionary.com doesn't list "chimeria"...So I'm thinking maybe you meant "chimera"...Well, everybody knows that "chimera" means:

A fanciful mental illusion or fabrication.

At least that's one of the definitions they list.

I can see you now..."Hey Lye...Pass me another invisible log for the chimeria"

http://bestsmileys.com/drinking/5.gif

"Sure Ski...As soon as I put out that imaginary fire on your head"

http://bestsmileys.com/fire/2.gif

LOL.... Dude he won't drinkin "cocktails".... He was drinkin straight Apple Brrrrrandy!!!! Hey Doug, Now I promise you this.... I've seen a few "chimera" in my time while sippin a jar of fine brandy, so the above ain't such a far fetched notion.

Lyehopper

01-05-2006, 02:21 AM

I just have to complain myself...........

What happen to rule number 5???????????

I think since I am so new to the game and new to the trading business itself that number 5 of the old rules should be reinstated!

If I admitted that it was me diving off the Morgan, will that give any weight to rule number 5??????
Sorry Sis.... Rule number "five" was in the 2005 POTW. This is a new year and we've got a new set of 2006 rules.... and since I've decided that you are actually a pretty good stock picker.... I see no need to offer you bonus points for "skinny dipping" pictures any more.... But HEY!.... don't let that stop you from posting the pictures. Afterall we're all friends here!

Lyehopper

01-05-2006, 03:15 AM

Now we're rollin fellas.... the Portfolio (combined) is up 1.94% for the week. That's two days! Man I hope this rally has real legs!

Well my buddy Pete is kickin some butt with his LINKE short. Nice call big PETE!!!!

I (Lyehopper) am in 2nd with my fave ECOL...

And our "mechanical" pal Karel's in 3rd with his same-ol-same-ol pick CMCO. Great stock Karel!.... Skiracer is nippin at his heels with PETS.

Speakin of nippin at the heels. I have an Australian Cattle Dog (Blue Heeler)that is my "side kick". She's sleeping on my feet right now as a matter of fact. Before her though I had a male named Jack (he died @ 15 yrs old back in 2000) Now Jack was an alcoholic cattle dog to say the least. He was fearless too. I've seen him face down (head to head) a 1,500 pound bull and as the bull lowered his head ol Jack would bite him on the forehead then run around behind him and bite his heels. Jack would have that bull so confused he could put him anywhere he wanted.... I'd laugh my ass off at that dog. Well once I was cookin a big fat steak on the grill and I was drinkin some Japanese Sake a buddy had given me. The Sake was in little cartons like juicy-juice comes in.lol I poked the little straw in the Sake carton and it squirted out all over the patio. Well Jack promptly licked it up and begged for more.... Well.... he was my bud, what was I supposed to do?.... I poured him a bowl of the stuff and he lapped it up pronto. To make a long story short.... Jack got drunk off his ass that night and I laughed and laughed at that stupid dog. My wife got really pissed at me that night.... but Jack didn't care, he liked to get drunk.... Well it's 2:00 Am again and I gotta get up early so here's the score card fellas! Give-em-hell tomorrow!.... uhhhh I mean today!!!!

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/2734/potw14052ew.png (http://imageshack.us)

New-born baby

01-05-2006, 03:24 PM

WMT:
the short is paying off. Down another .90 right now.

sowersnc

01-05-2006, 03:25 PM

SELL UNH and Short GME

Websman

01-05-2006, 05:26 PM

Hah! BTJ rocked today. The Vulcan is making a comeback.

Lyehopper

01-06-2006, 03:19 AM

POTW total (average) gain is now over 2.5% fellas!!!!

Pete's still #1.... I'm #2.... Greb's now #3.... A lot of green this week guys! Keep up the good work.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3599/potw15069rx.png (http://imageshack.us)

New-born baby

01-06-2006, 12:34 PM

Lye-Baby,
think I'll cover my WMT short at $45.38. Not much chance of it sinking too much lower today.

Lyehopper

01-06-2006, 12:55 PM

Sell ECOL.... Buy PARL

Karel

01-06-2006, 01:03 PM

Forget it, Lye! Pete is out of reach, but CMCO is steaming up towards 2nd place!

Regards,

Karel

jiesen

01-06-2006, 01:57 PM

and I bet AMLN is moving me up the most spots on the POTW list today! (making me some $$, too...)

IIC

01-06-2006, 02:10 PM

Sell FCFS...AMMD long

IIC

IIC

01-06-2006, 04:21 PM

Worked out well...I even bot AMMD and made .61 on a DT...IIC

spikefader

01-06-2006, 04:29 PM

Forget it, Lye! Pete is out of reach, but CMCO is steaming up towards 2nd place!

Regards,

Karellol uh huh....

Gee what's that I can see in the distance??? Oh, it's Lye....it's PARL....COME ON PARL.....COME ON $32.50!!! It's gotta be close if it gets to there!! haha

Lyehopper

01-07-2006, 01:16 AM

and I bet AMLN is moving me up the most spots on the POTW list today! (making me some $$, too...)
LOL.... Makin me some too Jiesen... Thanks DUDE!!!! I like this stock.

IIC

01-07-2006, 01:19 AM

HEY LYE...Where are last year's final results???...Did I miss 'em???

Lyehopper

01-07-2006, 02:22 AM

HEY LYE...Where are last year's final results???...Did I miss 'em???
No Sir you didn't miss em.... I haven't posted the Final points yet. Sorry, I'm soooo covered up it's crazy!.... I really need a good "trading partner" (like Bambi) to help me get caught up with my posting....lol

Lyehopper

01-07-2006, 03:18 AM

Sell FCFS...AMMD long

IIC
Great play IIC.... This trade really put you into the game dude!.... Good for 7.05%!!!!

Lyehopper

01-07-2006, 04:24 AM

A very good week fellas!!!! The BULL is back.... and Lyehopper is back in the saddle.lol

Pete's short play wins the contest in impressive fashion! I'll be interested to see if he plays the same strategy next week. wtg PETE!!!! You are HUUUUGE!!!! DUDE!!!!

How about Photon? WOW! he sneaks up and snatches the silver with LUFK. I own this stock and I must say I beleive it's a winner. Great play Photon!

Karel takes the bronze with CMCO. Karel is proving that a buy and hold strategy of a great stock really pays off. Good pick (AGAIN) Karel! Might as well play it again next week huh?

I own 4 of the stocks played this week. ECOL, PARL, LUFK, AMLN....

The group as a whole gained an impressive 3.75%! You fellas are HUUUGE!!!!

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6501/potw16066iz.png (http://imageshack.us)

New-born baby

01-07-2006, 05:15 AM

What can I say? I made 2.49% on a short in a bull week, and still finished 14th out of 20, and even got beat out by a nun whose byline says, "Don't follow me; I don't know anything." Time to quit? Perhaps I should capture her byline for my own. :(

Congrats to the 13 who finished ahead of me. Looking forward to next week's play . . . and I haven't got a clue what I'll do next!

spikefader

01-07-2006, 05:20 AM

That's OK NB, I get the knucklehead award. If I'd stuck with my original pick, MDR, Creme of the Crop leader, I'd have secured the bronze. Ah well, still green with shorts this week makes us a huge midget :D lol

Congrats to the winners, commiserations to the losers. Next!

Runner

01-07-2006, 10:30 AM

Lye, for the beginning on this week I'd like to stay in CASH position.

IIC

01-07-2006, 12:29 PM

Very impressive Pete...It is pretty tough to do so well when you go against the market...Doug(IIC)

sisterwin2

01-07-2006, 12:31 PM

HELE for monday.... Long.

mimo_100

01-07-2006, 12:53 PM

Lye,

I'm going to start the week in CASH.

Congratulatiuons to all of the winners.

Tim

billyjoe

01-07-2006, 02:04 PM

Lye,

STX long

billyjoe

jiesen

01-07-2006, 02:23 PM

AMLN long again for me!

skiracer

01-07-2006, 02:46 PM

Congrats Pete. Very nice play going against the market.

skiracer

01-07-2006, 02:56 PM

I'm torn between PETS which I bought last week, ELN which I bought Friday, and HOM which I think is getting ready to setup for another move up. I was somewhat disappointed with PETS and ELN on Friday. Thought both were going off but the market pushed them both back down late in the day after nice intraday runs up.

Karel

01-08-2006, 04:28 AM

Pete: amazing result! Double digits! And Photon, I thought the 2nd place was secure, but forgot to look over my shoulder! Or were you in front already? And Lye, PARL was a nice pick!

According to my system, holding this kind of stock will pay off over time, but in my own portfolio I am still in the red with CMCO. But after such a week it can't have fallen of the screen, and it didn't, so CMCO stays in. In my own port and in the POTW. But if you want to know whether the POTW beat my mechanical fund, you'll have to look up that thread! But I am starting to think you really need that H factor, and not just any old H factor too!

Regards,

Karel

Websman

01-08-2006, 10:25 AM

Ik kan TRLG kopen deze week. Ik zal een besluit spoedig nemen.

Karel

01-08-2006, 10:39 AM

Ik kan TRLG kopen deze week. Ik zal een besluit spoedig nemen.
Errm, of course you can, if nobody picks it first. :) Are you sure you didn't mean something like "Maybe I will buy/Misschien koop ik"? Your announcement normally translates to "I am able to".

Regards,

Karel

Websman

01-08-2006, 10:52 AM

Errm, of course you can, if nobody picks it first. :) Are you sure you didn't mean something like "Maybe I will buy/Misschien koop ik"? Your announcement normally translates to "I am able to".

Regards,

Karel

I may have to get you to translate for me from now on. It never seems to come out right. lol

skiracer

01-08-2006, 11:41 AM

I'll stick with PETS - long again this week.

dmk112

01-08-2006, 11:55 AM

LCRD - long.

IIC

01-08-2006, 12:16 PM

Putting my mouth where my money is...CRDN long...IIC

sisterwin2

01-08-2006, 01:47 PM

just notice I wrote the wrong post........I want for monday HE.... Long

sisterwin2

01-08-2006, 01:49 PM

I was thinking about shorting HELE but wrote long.... then decided.. I have no right to short a stock when I dont know how.. so Long with HE

01-08-2006, 02:44 PM

Got to get back In the thick of this, my throw came up with DYN [LONG] NOW BACK TO FOOTBALL .

billyjoe

01-08-2006, 03:28 PM

Grebnet,
You need your own thread , but I think I'll find you here. Do you keep separate track of your sub $10 stocks to see the result over a years time period? From your past posts it looks as if you often hold them for a long time. I've got a theory that if IBD canslim stocks are already over the hill and picked based on hindsight, low priced high quality stocks could eliminate many of these problems. I'm going to slowly build a portfolio of under $10 selections and try to hold them for a year at least. One problem would be increased volatility with these. Figuring out stops will be difficult since rules that apply to higher priced picks might eliminate potential doubles or triples at low prices. Just was curious as you seem to have a longer track record on these than most on this forum. Thanks

billyjoe

New-born baby

01-08-2006, 04:04 PM

Putting my mouth where my money is...CRDN long...IIC

You must have meant to write "WITS!"

grebnet

01-08-2006, 04:13 PM

Ive toyed with running a thread......not yet
I do all of my trading thru Schwab and keep track of stocks on Yahoo where I enter date /price and source of info . I rarely hold stocks for a year. I regularly take profits . If I still like a stock as it is pulling back, I add to it ( I know there are those who say you shouldnt.).

I regularly read quarterly financial statements for discussion of prior and future quarter projections. I eliminate any stock that has guided lower , and stocks that do not have qtr over qtr ( same qtr year to year not consecutive qtrs.) growth . I also want low debt and not growing debt. The majority of my stocks have positive earnings and reasonable p/e to growth...

I agree that <$10 stocks are subject to swings and therefore I dont use stops. My trading system is not very sophisticated... I rely on my "gut" feeling and screening criteria that I like.

I have done very well for 2 years now , but will not consider that I know what Im doing until it works for 5 straight years.
If you are running an experiment of sub $10 stocks , you might see if can set up a stock screen ie at MSN and run that screen regularly selling stocks that fall off the screen. Problem with screen in this category is there is little analyst coverage so you have to avoid criteria that require analyst input ( ie upgrades/downgrades..earnings estimates.. ...)

I dont know if this answers your questions ???

Grebnet,
You need your own thread , but I think I'll find you here. Do you keep separate track of your sub $10 stocks to see the result over a years time period? From your past posts it looks as if you often hold them for a long time. I've got a theory that if IBD canslim stocks are already over the hill and picked based on hindsight, low priced high quality stocks could eliminate many of these problems. I'm going to slowly build a portfolio of under $10 selections and try to hold them for a year at least. One problem would be increased volatility with these. Figuring out stops will be difficult since rules that apply to higher priced picks might eliminate potential doubles or triples at low prices. Just was curious as you seem to have a longer track record on these than most on this forum. Thanks

billyjoe

Peter Hansen

01-08-2006, 04:40 PM

spikefader

01-08-2006, 05:18 PM

grebnet

01-08-2006, 05:39 PM

Ill try IO long this week

Websman

01-08-2006, 06:29 PM

I'll take TIII long.

Gatorman

01-08-2006, 06:31 PM

I'll take PAY long.

The Photon

01-08-2006, 06:34 PM

Lye: my pick of the week is MIDD, it sure was nice to finish the week in the black for once -

IIC

01-08-2006, 07:28 PM

Lye: my pick of the week is MIDD, it sure was nice to finish the week in the black for once -

I bot MIDD at 20.02 back in the Fall of '03...Sold out at 25.90's...Great Move Huh???...Of course I'm the same one who bot Hans at 15 and sold at 25...And don't even mention LCAV...)()&%#$#%...IIC

IIC

01-08-2006, 07:32 PM

You must have meant to write "WITS!"

True...I have a lot more money in WITS...I'll wait for the next EPS though on it...I want 28.98...But, I dunno???...I may start trimming it soon though to buy other things...Doug

IIC

01-08-2006, 07:37 PM

Wow I am so happy about last week's win with LINKE that I could punch a cow or whatever.......hey I'm a city slicker ......what do I know? Although I may get trampled by the BULL this week......I will SHORT (SONS) . Heeeeeeeeeeee Haw LOL!

Heck...I live in West L.A...this afternoon my wife and I were sittin' out front on the porch and this guy walks by with a rabbit on a leash...No kidding!!!

I might have mentioned this before, but one time in the early 70's I had a Guinea Pig...I took him on an airplane and let him loose...It was a riot...If I did that now I'd probably get 20 to life...IIC

sekto

01-08-2006, 10:51 PM

lye put me down for DSS Long- Thanks!

ParkTwain

01-08-2006, 11:40 PM

Lye,
BRCM long for me this week.

//PT

sekto

01-09-2006, 03:06 AM

spike i havent seen ur pick for this week ! 8)

spikefader

01-09-2006, 04:16 AM

Thanks for the prompting sekto. I gotta take CERS long this week. Recent 'c' long on the daily, and weekly chart a good one. Good luck all.

New-born baby

01-09-2006, 07:53 AM

Called out of the office for the entire day. I'll take LCRD long at 9 a.m., if no one has already taken it. IF someone has, I'll take CAT at 9 a.m. Great way to trade, isn't it?

IIC

01-09-2006, 10:26 AM

Dang...CRDN is gonna gap...so is my Pick of the Year...IDWK :)

I am switching to start in cash at the open...IIC

sowersnc

01-09-2006, 11:04 AM

I'll go with ARLP long.

IIC

01-09-2006, 11:11 AM

Ok...put me down for ENG long

...IIC

IIC

01-09-2006, 11:14 AM

Ok...put me down for ENG long

...IIC

Guess I'll get it here for a few cents more than I paid for it...In for a d/t on the p/b

Gary611

01-09-2006, 11:39 AM

Please put me in SIRI long 10:40am!!

Gary611

01-09-2006, 11:44 AM

Ik kan TRLG kopen deze week. Ik zal een besluit spoedig nemen.

ACTUNG!

Das machine is nicht fur gerfingerpokin und mitten grabben.

Ist easy schnappen der springwerk, blowenfusen und poppencorken mit spitzen sparken.

Ist nicht fur gewerken by das dummkopfen.

Das rubbernecken sightseenen keepen hands in das pockets.

Relaxen und watch das blinken lights.

IIC

01-09-2006, 11:49 AM

Guess I'll get it here for a few cents more than I paid for it...In for a d/t on the p/b

Well...sold ENG for +.48...but I'll keep it in the contest for now...IIC

Lyehopper

01-09-2006, 12:24 PM

Well fellas, I'm soooo covered up right now so my posts will be few and far between this week. Awwwwwww! I know that'll make everyone real sad and everything.lol....

I've got a trailer-load of 5-6 weight (500-600 lbs per head) calves hooked to my truck (as I type this) headed to the market this morning, then I'll have to haul two more loads before about 4:00PM.... I'll sell about 25k pounds of (state graded) calves today.... Now if you like the "stock market" you'd love hanging out at the "Livestock market" with me for a day, just bring your boots.lol.... I'll be at the sale till about midnight. I'll try to post today's score sometime tonight (Tues morning) if I can keep my eyes opened long enough.

MY OPENING PICK IS "cash"....

REMEMBER..... The 2006 points race begins TODAY!!!! You can be entered by picking a stock or opening a cash position. here are the rules for the new members to reveiw.... I would be nice to see a record number of players this week.

http://img344.imageshack.us/img344/4083/potw06rules16wn.png (http://imageshack.us)

mimo_100

01-09-2006, 01:18 PM

Lye,

It's lunchtime, I'm hungry, so I am going to chase HSVLY Long.

Tim

spikefader

01-09-2006, 01:34 PM

Thanks for the prompting sekto. I gotta take CERS long this week. Recent 'c' long on the daily, and weekly chart a good one. Good luck all.http://www.tiglath.org/yahoo/smiles/big29.gif

Doh! CERS gaps up 14% - donchahate that. Hopefully a runaway........but may have to take my profit before Fri and pick another ....
http://www.tiglath.org/yahoo/smiles/big35.gif

sisterwin2

01-09-2006, 06:20 PM

I should of stayed with HELE>...... BUt nnoooooooooooooooooooooooo had to go he.. tried to ride on Cramers mentioning it and wanted a big hype up.... failed. So I didnt stay with HELE at 3.something gain.

Last time I depend on the hype of cramer. My own picks now on.

New-born baby

01-10-2006, 12:04 AM

Lye-Baby:

According to Stockcharts, LRCD opened the five minutes of 10 a.m. until 10:05 a.m. at $15.48, the low was $15.45, and it closed at $15.48. Therefore I figure I bought LCRD at $15.48 this morning at 10 a.m., if that is okay with you.

IIC

01-10-2006, 02:01 AM

Called out of the office for the entire day. I'll take LCRD long at 9 a.m., if no one has already taken it. IF someone has, I'll take CAT at 9 a.m. Great way to trade, isn't it?

Wait a minute...the market wasn't even open at 9am...so don't you get the open???

Lyehopper

01-10-2006, 02:19 AM

ACTUNG!

Das machine is nicht fur gerfingerpokin und mitten grabben.

Ist easy schnappen der springwerk, blowenfusen und poppencorken mit spitzen sparken.

Ist nicht fur gewerken by das dummkopfen.

Das rubbernecken sightseenen keepen hands in das pockets.

Relaxen und watch das blinken lights.

LOL.... Gary you are indeed a man of many hidden talents.

Peter Hansen

01-10-2006, 09:15 AM

Heck...I live in West L.A...this afternoon my wife and I were sittin' out front on the porch and this guy walks by with a rabbit on a leash...No kidding!!!

I might have mentioned this before, but one time in the early 70's I had a Guinea Pig...I took him on an airplane and let him loose...It was a riot...If I did that now I'd probably get 20 to life...IIC

IIC , Obviously this ahem.....GUY was not a COWBOY....unless he was one of those dudes from Broke Back Mountain.......LOL! IIC, ya have a great sense of humor!

IIC

01-10-2006, 10:32 AM

IIC , Obviously this ahem.....GUY was not a COWBOY....unless he was one of those dudes from Broke Back Mountain.......LOL! IIC, ya have a great sense of humor!

I think he was a "Bunny Boy"

New-born baby

01-10-2006, 10:53 AM

Wait a minute...the market wasn't even open at 9am...so don't you get the open???

9 a.m CST=10 a.m. EST in NY City. I forgot to post the time zone :(

Lyehopper

01-10-2006, 11:01 AM

short ESLR.....

skiracer

01-10-2006, 11:19 AM

Lye,
no standing list for yesterday.

Karel

01-10-2006, 12:33 PM

Lye,
no standing list for yesterday.
http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=35840#post35840

Regards,

Karel

Lyehopper

01-10-2006, 12:51 PM

Lye,
no standing list for yesterday.
Trying to find a spare hour to get it posted Ski.

Sorry fellas my schedule is nuts right now plus I have a denist appointment this afternoon at 2:30. When the woman from the denist office called me this morning to remind me of the appointment, I asked her if she knew that 2:30 was the time the "Chinaman" went to the denist..... She said "excuse me"?..... I said (in my best Chinaman's accent) "yeah! Chinaman go to denist when tooth-hurty".LOL get it 2:30.... tooth-hurty.....harharhar!!!! I think it's strange that she didn't really laugh.lol.... I thought it was very funny myself. I hope she's not the one who cleans my teeth, she'll probably try to hurt me or something.

Lyehopper

01-10-2006, 01:12 PM

http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=35840#post35840

Regards,

Karel
OK dude.... Sorry again! I'll skip lunch and work it up right now. Ohhhhh the sacrifice!!!!!..... the sacrifice I make for the POTW's sake. And I could be eating three MCD .99 double cheesburgers.... but Noooooooo! I gotta post Monday's scorecard.....

btw my calves sold very good last night, I averaged about 1.20 per pound. Think I'll bring another load or two next Monday. 3-4 weight M1 Angus steers are bringing 1.64 per pound!!! I've got a ton of calves that size too, probibly 50+. Might be worth it to sell em small with those prices. that's $630 for a 385 pound steer! it's funny but a 700 pound #2 steer is only bringing $1.05 per pound, and it takes a lot of feed thru the winter to get em to 700 pounds too. Go figure?

skiracer

01-10-2006, 01:14 PM

Trying to find a spare hour to get it posted Ski.

Sorry fellas my schedule is nuts right now plus I have a denist appointment this afternoon at 2:30. When the woman from the denist office called me this morning to remind me of the appointment, I asked her if she knew that 2:30 was the time the "Chinaman" went to the denist..... She said "excuse me"?..... I said (in my best Chinaman's accent) "yeah! Chinaman go to denist when tooth-hurty".LOL get it 2:30.... tooth-hurty.....harharhar!!!! I think it's strange that she didn't really laugh.lol.... I thought it was very funny myself. I hope she's not the one who cleans my teeth, she'll probably try to hurt me or something.

Lye,
Don't worry about it on my part. No big as far as I'm concerned.

Lyehopper

01-10-2006, 01:28 PM

spikefader

01-10-2006, 01:28 PM

Tooth hurty LOL Ya, that's a good one.

spikefader

01-10-2006, 01:34 PM

short ESLR.....Go Bear! :D
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/7472/eslrjan106zl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

New-born baby

01-10-2006, 01:56 PM

Sorry dude.... DMK picked LCRD before you did..... I've got you in CAT.

Oh the pain! Oh the dismay! Oh the tragedy of it all!!

Lyehopper

01-11-2006, 12:44 AM

Fellas I'm so late posting this that it's pathetic. I started to just skip Monday's post but the scores looked so darned good I just had to finish it up and post it anyway.

We have a record 22 players this week, GREAT!!!!

IIC is kickin some bootaaay with ENG! Webs is back in the game with TIII and Karel has shown up to play again this week with ol trusty CMCO.... I gotta buy that stock Karel.lol

Here's Monday's score. I'll post Tuesday's score as soon as my download finishes.

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/7645/potw19068em.png (http://imageshack.us)

IIC

01-11-2006, 12:52 AM

Monday...Heck...it's Wednesday in Eastern Canada

Lyehopper

01-11-2006, 05:36 AM

Doug still maintains the lead....

Webs inches closer in second....

BillyJoe has zoomed into third....

Some very nice picks this week.... Top six players are over 5% and the contest is only two days old!.... ROCK ON FELLAS!!!!

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/659/potw110063sz.png (http://imageshack.us)

Lyehopper

01-11-2006, 05:49 AM

Monday...Heck...it's Wednesday in Eastern Canada
I've been to "Western" Canada..... They have these cool black squirrels out there.... I'd like to catch a box full of em and turn em lose down here.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/162/blksquirrel5zi.png (http://imageshack.us)

mimo_100

01-11-2006, 07:54 AM

billyjoe

01-11-2006, 10:47 AM

Lye,
Sell STX, short ESCL.

billyjoe

ParkTwain

01-11-2006, 11:17 AM

Start of this week, Cramer announces that BRCM and MRVL are his new "king and queen of tech." Man, I hope for the sake of POTW that he stays on his meds through Friday.

Lyehopper

01-11-2006, 11:26 AM

Hey Lye,

I posted my HSVLY buy at 12:18 pm on 1/9. The prices at that time ran between

15.21 and 15.29. Did the floor traders stick it to me at 15.76 or what? Man, I hate

it when I get such a bad fill on a market order. Sucks big time.

Tim

Sorry Tim.... My mistake dude. Here's what happened.... I make a list in order of each players post.... Your post was third this week and was a cash pick. So I recorded you third on the list in "cash" then as I worked through the list down to Monday (after the open) I start to list the actual time of the posts. When you traded from cash into HSVLY I didn't move you to the bottom of the list and record the post time. I just erased "cash" and wrote down the pick and forgot to record the time.... So later when I figured the score I entered you at the opening price Monday. I'll fix it tonight. You finished Tuesday @ + 4.34% between Ray and DMK (8th place).

dmk112

01-11-2006, 11:30 AM

Lye, go to Europe and pick up some of these too:

http://www.message-wildlife-art.co.uk/Images/NewP4S/WEB%20RED%20SQUIRREL.JPG

Lyehopper

01-11-2006, 12:37 PM

DMK.... is that a 22cal bullet hole below his ear?.... If so, that's one darned tough European squirrel!!!! I like "head shots" for a squirrel, you don't mess up the meat that way.... you know? My wife can cook up a pretty good squirrel for breakfast. She quarters it, parboils it, rolls it in seasoned flour, fries it up golden brown in butter and olive oil.... then makes a gravey (my mothers recipe) serves it with fresh homemade buttermilk biscuits and a pot of hot black coffee....mmmmmmmm!!!! I knew there was a reason I've stayed with her for 22 years.lol

Runner

01-11-2006, 01:30 PM

Lye, I'll take JBLU short

Websman

01-11-2006, 06:47 PM

Since Runner wants to short JBLU, I'll help him take the airline stocks down by shorting CAL.

I want to sell TIII in the morning and take CAL short.

Lyehopper

01-12-2006, 12:37 AM

wow Wow WOW!!!! How things change in the POTW!!!!

ParkTwain comes from 4th and nearly doubles his gain today to comfortably take first place.

Webs keeps second....

Mimo sneaks up to third.... Jiesen's in fourth with AMLN.... I like AMLN...hehehe

Two days left in this weeks race.... Who will take the gold? Stay tuned!!!!

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IIC

01-12-2006, 01:04 AM

Tough contest...But believe it or not...I actually took out a dime on an ENG DT today...Doug

billyjoe

01-12-2006, 02:37 PM

Doug,
Just klicked on your online broker site and my computer almost exploded with popups. Spent all morning x...ing them out.

billyjoe

sisterwin2

01-12-2006, 10:42 PM

sell HE... buy RHEO long

Lyehopper

01-13-2006, 12:15 AM

I don't think he realizes it but.... WEBSMAN has captured 1st place!!!! HUGE exit this morning from TIII Webs... wtg DUDE!!!!

ParkTwain has 2nd.... Ray Long has captured 3rd.... and Jiesen keeps 4th.

It ain't over till it's over folks.... STAY TUNED!!!!

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IIC

01-13-2006, 12:41 AM

Doug,
Just klicked on your online broker site and my computer almost exploded with popups. Spent all morning x...ing them out.

billyjoe

That's because I didn't renew with the host...Sorry...I will redirect it when I get a chance...I've got so many sites they are hard to keep track of...But most are not stock related...Doug

Websman

01-13-2006, 11:31 AM

Lye, I want to close my short on CAL right here, while it's down more than 40 cents. 9:31 am cst

I'll go CASH for the rest of the day.

That is...if the rules allow it.

billyjoe

01-13-2006, 11:58 AM

Lyehopper

01-13-2006, 12:01 PM

Lye, I want to close my short on CAL right here, while it's down more than 40 cents. 9:31 am cst

I'll go CASH for the rest of the day.

That is...if the rules allow it.

The rules allow it.... You're in fine shape DUDE!

So Webs? on "cst" you are an hour behind us on "est" right? That's pretty cool.... so in the summer does your time change to "dst" (daylight savings time) or stay the same? I wish we kept "dst" all year long, gets dark too early in the winter here.

Websman

01-13-2006, 12:08 PM

The rules allow it.... You're in fine shape DUDE!

So Webs? on "cst" you are an hour behind us on "est" right? That's pretty cool.... so in the summer does your time change to "dst" (daylight savings time) or stay the same? I wish we kept "dst" all year long, gets dark too early in the winter here.

It changes.

Wow, Maybe I should have held my short. CAl is down .54 now.

Lyehopper

01-13-2006, 12:11 PM

Lye,
I'm slowly honing and perfecting my investing technique. You may remember several months ago my "buy any stock with CAL or LA in the symbol". Now another one "never short or long any stock whose symbol starts with an "ES". Am I right , Lye?

In real life I sold my first stock of the year STX for a 9.1% gain. Wanted to start the new year right and I'm kinda jumpy about the market right now.

billyjoe

LOL.... seems that way BillyJoe.... ESLR is still a good short imo.... I just shorted ESLR in the POTW a day too early.... I think I'll still finish green today. I'm holding it short in real life too.

Websman

01-13-2006, 12:16 PM

LOL.... seems that way BillyJoe.... ESLR is still a good short imo.... I just shorted ESLR in the POTW a day too early.... I think I'll still finish green today. I'm holding it short in real life too.

ESLR down .26. Dive! Dive! Hahaha!

Websman

01-13-2006, 01:43 PM

It changes.

Wow, Maybe I should have held my short. CAl is down .54 now.

Down .74...Dang, I could have got a lot more...

Lyehopper

01-13-2006, 01:47 PM

Down .74...Dang, I could have got a lot more...
ESLR's gettin ready to crash.... I hope!

I think that entire sector is over valued....

Websman

01-13-2006, 01:59 PM

ESLR's gettin ready to crash.... I hope!

I think that entire sector is over valued....

Look at AAI. I may consider shorting it on a pullup...uh...is that what you would call it? A pullup instead of a pullback...or would it be a pullforward?

Lyehopper

01-13-2006, 04:06 PM

OK..... cover ESLR.... Buy PARL

Websman

01-13-2006, 05:35 PM

So, did I win? ...TICK

Websman

01-13-2006, 11:21 PM

I think I won. Did you see that doggie run?

billyjoe

01-13-2006, 11:30 PM

Webs,
It's hell waiting for the final results, isn't it?

billyjoe

Lyehopper

01-14-2006, 02:06 AM

Webs,
It's hell waiting for the final results, isn't it?

billyjoe
LOL..... Sorry guys! Got home late tonight. I consumed a fine med rare aged Angus steak the size of a tractor tire this evening too.... Friday night is not my favorite time to fool with all these numders and figures and stuff. Please forgive ol Lye tonight! I'll post the results tomorrow. BTW Im sure Webs won by a healthy margin.

YOU ARE HUUUUUUGE WEBSMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!lol

jiesen

01-14-2006, 03:11 AM

I think I won. Did you see that doggie run?

Congrats on another fine win, Webs. Way to work it both ways!

billyjoe

01-14-2006, 06:30 AM

Lye,
I'm having problems with steak just not turning out quite right. Do you marinate? Also could use some BBQ tips. Thanks

billyjoe

Websman

01-14-2006, 09:23 AM

LOL..... Sorry guys! Got home late tonight. I consumed a fine med rare aged Angus steak the size of a tractor tire this evening too....

I went to Cracker Barrel and ate some Catfish to celebrate my POTW victory. Afterwords I went to Lowes and bought a new tiller, so I can plow up a garden this year.
Then I came back home so I could bask in the glory of my victory and watch the doggies run...

Lyehopper

01-14-2006, 12:58 PM

Lye,
I'm having problems with steak just not turning out quite right. Do you marinate? Also could use some BBQ tips. Thanks

billyjoe
NOOOOO! I never marinate a fine cut of beef, that's unthinkable! I like to taste the beef.... The key is to buy a quality steak first of all. I like mine a little rotten.lol I like good marbling.... Angus or SimAngus cross (just my preference).... The steer should be finished off to about 1,200 pounds on good corn and/or corn silage.... The side (or loin) should be dry aged around three weeks @ about 36-38 degrees. Now once you've picked the right steak simply grill it on a med to high flame, I put a little garlic salt and ground black pepper on each side and flip it four times altering the direction on each turn making a nice checkerd pattern on the meat..... BEAUTIFUL! medium rare with the center being red and barely warm.... mmmmmmm!!!! I like Ribeye's and T-bones but I've been eating filets for a few years now, I used to think that was a girls steak.lol.... It's hard to go back to a ribeye after eating a fine thick tender filet.

Lyehopper

01-14-2006, 01:06 PM

I went to Cracker Barrel and ate some Catfish to celebrate my POTW victory. Afterwords I went to Lowes and bought a new tiller, so I can plow up a garden this year.
Then I came back home so I could bask in the glory of my victory and watch the doggies run...
Webs I like CBRL's catfish with eggs and grits for breakfast.... Do they burn the fireplace at CBRL in Florida?

Websman

01-14-2006, 01:40 PM

Webs I like CBRL's catfish with eggs and grits for breakfast.... Do they burn the fireplace at CBRL in Florida?

They had it burnin' last night...

Lyehopper

01-14-2006, 02:30 PM

WEBSMAN has nailed down a HUUUUGE victory this week and kicks off 2006 in the lead..... WTG Webs!!!!

RAY Long's darts strike paydirt this week with DYN giving him the silver. HUGE finish RL!!!!

Park finishes with a strong 9%+ with BRCM.... Strong pick PARK!!!!

Karel and Jiesen finish 4th and 5th @ 5%+ gains each.... their repeat picks are paying off.... Something to be said for the consistancy of their method IMO! WTG fellas!

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IIC

01-14-2006, 02:55 PM

1) I eat to live...I don't live to eat...LOL

2) Congrats Webs!!!

3) So where are last year's results...Didn't I win???

Lyehopper

01-14-2006, 03:11 PM

1) I eat to live...I don't live to eat...LOL

2) Congrats Webs!!!

3) So where are last year's results...Didn't I win???
(1) I live to live.... which includes fine food and drink.

(2) Webs is HUGE!!!!

(3) NO!!!!

01-14-2006, 03:14 PM

Good going Webs just think If you would not have cut and run

dmk112

01-14-2006, 04:09 PM

Sheesh, am I in a slump or what...

billyjoe

01-14-2006, 04:19 PM

Webs,
Congratulations, the transformation to Vulcan is almost complete.

billyjoe

Websman

01-14-2006, 05:20 PM

Webs,
Congratulations, the transformation to Vulcan is almost complete.

billyjoe

Yes, my success is becoming quite remarkable, isn't it?

Shadow

01-14-2006, 05:31 PM

I'll play. Do losers get a prize? LOL
I'll take: AIRM and LDSH, both long.

BTW, congrats Webs.

Shadow

Websman

01-14-2006, 05:36 PM

I'll play. Do losers get a prize? LOL
I'll take: AIRM and LDSH, both long.

BTW, congrats Webs.

Shadow

The #1 Vulcan trading rule is that you must have total self confidence. Failure is not acceptable. Therfore, you should NEVER speak about yourself in a negative way.

From this moment on, you are to be a success. Never again say, "Do losers get a prize". You are now a winner!

Shadow

01-14-2006, 05:43 PM

The #1 Vulcan trading rule is that you must have total self confidence. Failure is not acceptable. Therfore, you should NEVER speak about yourself in a negative way.

From this moment on, you are to be a success. Never again say, "Do losers get a prize". You are now a winner!

Got it! You are totally right.

Revised entry:
I'll take AIRM and LDSH, both long

This new kid is going to kick your butts next week!

Better? :wink:

Shadow

IIC

01-14-2006, 07:01 PM

Got it! You are totally right.

Revised entry:
I'll take AIRM and LDSH, both long

This new kid is going to kick your butts next week!

Better? :wink:

Shadow

You lose ;)...you only get one pick at a time

billyjoe

01-14-2006, 07:57 PM

Lyehopper

01-14-2006, 08:09 PM

With Webs latest victory he ties Doug and Jiesen as the greatest stock pickers, except for Mr. Market. The remarkable thing is the short amount of time in which he has emerged from mediocrity to greatness. Maybe buying the trifecta of Webs/Doug/Jiesen picks each week would be profitable.

billyjoe

Actually the greatest stock picker on this forum is not Webs, Doug or Jiesen. Is it $$$Mr. Market$$$?.... Well that's a given I guess.lol

My next post will reveal the 2005 points winner and Grand Champion POTW stock picker of 2005..... ARE YOU FELLAS READY to CHEER ON and SING the PRAISES of the HUUUUUUGEST STOCK PICKER of 2005?!!!!!

Lyehopper

01-14-2006, 08:16 PM

And the points winner is...... RAY LOOOOOONG!!!!!!

Lets hear it for RL fellas!!!! and.... he has started out 2006 might strong too!

Congratulations to all the players who finished green! And as for the rest of us?.... Well it was fun playing wasn't it.lol

http://img498.imageshack.us/img498/8964/potw05finalpoints9ng.png (http://imageshack.us)

Shadow

01-14-2006, 08:28 PM

You lose ;)...you only get one pick at a time

LOL.....I guess somewhere between pg 1 and pg 320 there
was a rule change....silly me....how could I have missed that!

Well...if I'm not disqualified yet... I'll take AIRM - long.

Geeesh.....this "new kid on the block" stuff is hard!

Lyehopper

01-14-2006, 08:30 PM

I'll play. Do losers get a prize? LOL
I'll take: AIRM and LDSH, both long.

BTW, congrats Webs.

Shadow

Hey Shadow..... Welcome to BillyJoe's POTW!!!! AND.... All new members are invited to play and have fun!

There are some mighty good stock pickers here. We look forward to your picks. I am posting the rules for your review. Please read them carefully. You are allowed only one pick at a time.

http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/5960/potw06rules14mv.png (http://imageshack.us)

billyjoe

01-14-2006, 08:31 PM

Ray,
Almost forgot about you. Ray probably has forgotten more about the market than most of us will ever know. As long as he has one good arm one good eye, a board and the fat lady to warm his darts we're in trouble. Ok Ray, I've done my part now will you private message me that hot tip?

billyjoe

01-14-2006, 08:38 PM

That has to say something for DARTS. Thanks to Lye for taking care of this and putting In all the extra time. But I had a reputation to keep up after blowing everyone away with the start of this link.Sure glad you started this BILLY JOE.Now lets see If I can keep It up. Sure wish Dave & Robbb would come on board. Than when I win again I'll write a book on throwing Darts.

01-14-2006, 08:41 PM

Billy what hot tip ? hav'nt had one In years

Gatorman

01-14-2006, 08:55 PM

I'll take LTBG long for this week.

Lyehopper

01-14-2006, 09:01 PM

I'll start the week in "cash"....

New-born baby

01-14-2006, 09:14 PM

Lye-Baby:
Looks like I am going to play with the CAT again this week.

One thing we should have learned already with POTW: it is the cheap stocks that offer the most upside per centage wise. A 5 cent move on a $60 stock isn't much, but a 5 cent move on a $1 stock is 5%.

Still, (unless I change my mind before Monday), I think I'll play with the CAT, even though I am allergic to them.

Runner

01-14-2006, 09:52 PM

Lye, start me in cash next week!

Peter Hansen

01-14-2006, 11:52 PM

Lye Short ANTP for me !

IIC

01-15-2006, 12:03 AM

I think I'll throw darts w/ Ray...Long...VTAL

Websman

01-15-2006, 10:16 AM

I see the market is closed tomorrow, so that gives me a little extra time to make my next winning pick.

sisterwin2

01-15-2006, 10:21 AM

congrate Webs.

Karel

01-15-2006, 11:00 AM

Congratulation Webs! And Lye, I am still long CMCO.

People might ask why. Well, this kind of stock tends to win. On average 6 winners, with an average gain of 12.3%, against 5 losers, with an average loss of 10%. So it really is safer to play a bunch of these stocks. See the Mechanical Fund.

Regards,

Karel

01-15-2006, 12:05 PM

Just finished celebrating my STUPENDOUS VICTORY and now low on my beer supply and LINDBURGER CHEESE, NNB would sure enjoy some of the finest In this country. Beer no preferance just lots of It. Sorry karel makes no difference high priced or low you have to pick the right one [not easy to do] and DMK maybe your on to something but genius? I asked a few of my friends and my children not good feedback. However I feel that Is a possibillity. Come on Ernie join THE POTW .Doug good luck on your dart throw think you will like It but dose take practice. GOOD LUKE TO ALL LOL

Catch you later, your CHAMPION

IIC

01-15-2006, 12:19 PM

01-15-2006, 12:48 PM

Doug you gotta be kidding

billyjoe

01-15-2006, 02:18 PM

Ray,
Are you getting a big head or just adopting the vulcan philosophy? Either way it seems to work. You can't be the greatest, for I am the greatest! Your victories are in the past, mine , in the future. Defeat is the training ground for success and I'm getting lots of training.

billyjoe

IIC

01-15-2006, 02:21 PM

I don't care if I win or not...As long as I beat Lye...IIC

spikefader

01-15-2006, 03:10 PM

Congrats on another fine win, Webs.

And HUGE congrats to Ray for taking out the 2005 title for best average. That is truly remarkable and your hugeness is now written into history! :D

Sowers 2nd! Nice dude. And Greb 3rd no surprize! Webs 4th and clear evidence that vulcanization has its benefits. :D

I'm shocked at a) the amount of red averages and b) the fact that I'm not one of them lol Obviously those big % weeks helped! Phew! :D

spikefader

01-15-2006, 03:17 PM

Lye,

I'll give Adam first dibs on LKQX. If he doesn't want it, I'll take it long please, based on that 'c' entry I posted about in my thread.

Good luck folks.

Websman

01-15-2006, 04:24 PM

Congrats on being the big winner for 2005 RL!

This contest has indicated that low priced stocks are a great way to make big money nowdays. My biggest gains have been on stocks that started out under $10.

01-15-2006, 04:24 PM

Billy I would never think for one minute [hehehe] that I could do better than you or anyone else that plays In this contest but the proof Is In the pudding [that sure Is a dumb saying] where did that come from? It should say In the winning.The only thing thats getting big Is my a-- from sitting at this pc to much think I'll go exercise work up a sweat so I can crack open up a cold one or two so I can throw that dart straight. LOL Catch you later

The Photon

01-15-2006, 06:05 PM

I will take AAPL fpr the POTW 1/16 good luck -

jiesen

01-15-2006, 06:37 PM

Thanks for not inviting me to the Victory Party...Guess it was only for the "Elite" 5

Just think...If we had bought Ray's pick every week with an avg. gain over 50 weeks of 3.49% compounded we would have made 455%

Yeah, but we could have made more by shorting Lye's picks. (Don't mean to pick on you Lye, as I know you're not in last, but I think M. Mouse may have been tagged with a 5% penalty)

So why don't we start a subscription service by telling people how much they could have made on our players' picks? That's a sure moneymaker right there.

Anyway, congrats RL on the spectacular bullseyes. Keep it up!

ParkTwain

01-15-2006, 06:56 PM

Lye, I'll take BRY long for the upcoming week of 1/16/06.

I think that oil prices will be in turmoil for at least the next several days.

//PT

01-15-2006, 07:45 PM

Jiesen thanks appreciate It. It just puts some fun In It when the market gets to tough to play.

skiracer

01-15-2006, 07:48 PM

Lye,
put me in cash to start.

IIC

01-15-2006, 08:33 PM

Websman

01-15-2006, 09:54 PM

Ok, I need to find a pick. I meant to work on it this morning, but I had a show to play last night, which kept me up late. It was a good show. We packed the house...and helped raise money for "Relay for Life".

Everything was great until I woke up with a serious sinus headache...now I'm all doped up on cold medicine. If the medicine doesn't work, I'm breaking out the apple brandy.

I do feel a better, so now I'm going to try to find a new winner for the week...

billyjoe

01-15-2006, 09:56 PM

Lye,
I'm off the new meds and it will show in my 2006 POTW performance. You're all going to kick yourselves for missing this one .... KFY long... How do you like my new attitude ? Thanks Webs. We're all going to be cocky s.o.b.s. No more Mr. Nice Guy.

billyjoe

billyjoe

01-15-2006, 11:06 PM

Lye,
Could you give us your thoughts on these mad chickens ? Are you familiar with Tim Wilson who wrote "Church League Softball Fistfight " and "It Takes a Village to Raise a Nut". You remind me of him for some reason.

billyjoe

mimo_100

01-16-2006, 01:18 AM

Lye,

I'll start in cash this week.

Tim

jiesen

01-16-2006, 02:31 AM

I'll stay in cash for Monday...

Websman

01-16-2006, 09:29 AM

I'll stay in cash for Monday...

Duh...the markets closed. You can't take over the world when the market is closed. lol

Websman

01-16-2006, 09:31 AM

jiesen

01-16-2006, 11:20 AM

Duh...the markets closed. You can't take over the world when the market is closed. lol

all the more time for plotting, webs!

IIC

01-16-2006, 11:33 AM

Foreign Markets are open...TOPIX down 11.54 points today...IIC

01-16-2006, 09:53 PM

Lye here Is my dart throw, What Is going on with so many going Into cash? The winner Is FIX.

Websman

01-16-2006, 10:53 PM

I can understand why so many of you are starting the week out in cash. I know it's hard for you guys to compete with me. My Vulcan stock picking methods are superior.

I have a new winning pick for the contest, but I will not reveal it until the last moment. I threatned my boss so he decided that it would be in his best interest to let me off again. Therefore, I will be home, watching the markets.

I'm looking forward to another victory...

Websman

01-16-2006, 11:05 PM

Lye, since tomorrow is the first day of the trading week, do I have until the market close tomorrow to enter my pick?

Lyehopper

01-16-2006, 11:12 PM

Lye, since tomorrow is the first day of the trading week, do I have until the market close tomorrow to enter my pick?

If you started the week in a "cash" position.... you have till 3:59PM Friday to enter your first pick....

Might I sugggggggest you (actually) read the "rules and regulations".... DUUUUUDE!!!!

Websman

01-16-2006, 11:15 PM

If you started the week in a "cash" position.... you have till 3:59PM Friday to enter your first pick....

Might I sugggggggest you (actually) read the "rules and regulations".... DUUUUUDE!!!!

I never read the instructions...

I'll take CASH...then I can reveal my huge Vulcan pick tomorrow morning...

Websman

01-16-2006, 11:19 PM

I can't believe the nerve of them losers at the Aussie board. They don't like country music... How can you live without Hank Jr... or David Allen Coe. That's why we rule the world and they don't.

Lyehopper

01-16-2006, 11:21 PM

Hey Webs..... OK.... I see you did not enter a cash position. The "cash" position provision was designed to show a players "intent to play".... I can clearly see by all your posts since Sunday that you definitly intended to play the POTW this week.... So I have entered you in "cash".

Now for all other players who wish to play this week you do indeed have till the market closes on Tuesday to enter the contest.LOL........ now.... THIS MAY BE DONE BY ENTERING an initial "cash" POSITION!!!! simple? yes it is!!!! I am simple!!!! thus the POTW rules are simple.... BUT YOU HAVE TO actually READ THEM!!!!

Lyehopper

01-16-2006, 11:24 PM

I can't believe the nerve of them losers at the Aussie board. They don't like country music... How can you live without Hank Jr... or David Allen Coe. That's why we rule the world and they don't.

I love bluegrass.... My two year old son can sing "Uncle Pen"....LOL

I gotta visit the Aussie site again.... Have you seen "Milkman" over there lately?.... He's a cool redneck Aussie. He should live in Bedford county....

Websman

01-16-2006, 11:29 PM

I love bluegrass.... My two year old son can sing "Uncle Pen"....LOL

I gotta visit the Aussie site again.... Have you seen "Milkman" over there lately?.... He's a cool redneck Aussie. He should live in Bedford county....

Haven't seen him.

I grew up around a lot of bluegrass. I have a cousin that's a jam up banjo picker. I'm a drummer, but I can manage basic chords on my guitar.

I also have tons of Hank Williams Sr. Knowledge. I learned a bunch and played with some of his old buddies and one of the original Drifting Cowboy's.

Lyehopper

01-17-2006, 12:00 AM

Haven't seen him.

I grew up around a lot of bluegrass. I have a cousin that's a jam up banjo picker. I'm a drummer, but I can manage basic chords on my guitar.

I also have tons of Hank Williams Sr. Knowledge. I learned a bunch and played with some of his old buddies and one of the original Drifting Cowboy's.

I have been meaning to ask you about your band dude.... So Webs is a drummer?! COOOOOL!!!! I always wanted to play the drums. I love the drums on Rush's Tom Sawyer.... While I'm a country redneck that loves Bluegrass, I'm also a redneck who loves good Rock and Roll.... So Webs can you play Zeppelin's "Moby Dick"? I had a good buddy in high school who had a poster of John Bonham on the wall in his room. He would put on head phones and tear that drum set UP!!!! I bet you did that too Webs.lol

IIC

01-17-2006, 01:03 AM

I never read the instructions...

I'll take CASH...then I can reveal my huge Vulcan pick tomorrow morning...

My Dad always taught me to throw away the instructions and figure out how to do it yourself...IIC

IIC

01-17-2006, 01:07 AM

I can't believe the nerve of them losers at the Aussie board. They don't like country music... How can you live without Hank Jr... or David Allen Coe. That's why we rule the world and they don't.

My Favorite song is "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk" by Trace Adkins...Don't remember posting this here...but when people were pushing TRLG recently I posted the following..."My wife's Bandonkadonk looks just fine in her $25 Lee Jeans"...IIC

SledDawg

01-17-2006, 01:20 AM

Lyehopper, I'd like to get started playing POTW. I'll take EMC long.

Thanks, Jeff

grebnet

01-17-2006, 07:26 AM

Ill take TAYD....

skiracer

01-17-2006, 07:27 AM

OIH - long

Websman

01-17-2006, 08:34 AM

I have been meaning to ask you about your band dude.... So Webs is a drummer?! COOOOOL!!!! I always wanted to play the drums. I love the drums on Rush's Tom Sawyer.... While I'm a country redneck that loves Bluegrass, I'm also a redneck who loves good Rock and Roll.... So Webs can you play Zeppelin's "Moby Dick"? I had a good buddy in high school who had a poster of John Bonham on the wall in his room. He would put on head phones and tear that drum set UP!!!! I bet you did that too Webs.lol

Yea, I used to do the headphone thing, but it was with Journey and Boston and of course, Rush, Tom Saywer. I don't enjoy it like I used to though. Burned myself out by doing it for money for too many years. It's just no fun anymore. I only play a Saturday night Opry type show, because they raise money for causes and it's family oriented. If it wasn't for that, I'd sell all my stuff and just pick the guitar around the house.

Oh...I have a pick.

Oil ain't looking good and the market is week. I'll take CAL short again.

Gary611

01-17-2006, 08:59 AM

Hello everyone, just got back from an all weekend MLK birthday bash!! Yeah, I bin up on the mountain! ( I wonder if that mountain MLK was up on was Brokeback Mt.??!!!!)

Anyway, lets start with RWC at the open, long.

IIC

01-17-2006, 10:11 AM

I'm changing my pick...I will start out in cash...IIC

jiesen

01-17-2006, 11:06 AM

I'll take AMLN long again. real time quote says 42.88x42.89

Websman

01-17-2006, 11:21 AM

CAL is nosediving! <TICK> Look at that doggie run!

jiesen

01-17-2006, 11:47 AM

the secret to RL's success:

http://biz.yahoo.com/fool/060117/113750603801.html?.v=1

billyjoe

01-17-2006, 11:53 AM

Jiesen,
I wonder why they didn't include 6 Wall St. experts in the bunch. Ray would certainly have beat them all.

billyjoe

IIC

01-17-2006, 12:12 PM

Give me DXPE long

Websman

01-17-2006, 12:34 PM

I'm wishing now that I would have shorted CAL in my real porfolio.

sekto

01-17-2006, 12:47 PM

Ill take CASH please.. Thanks Lye =]

Websman

01-17-2006, 02:25 PM

Wow, CAL dropped even further than I thought it would. :)

It's now down by about 2.15...

I think I'll go ahead and cover my short on CAL and go CASH.

Lyehopper

01-17-2006, 03:13 PM

Wow, CAL dropped even further than I thought it would. :)

It's now down by about 2.15...

I think I'll go ahead and cover my short on CAL and go CASH.

You are a genius at playing the POTW.... I'm very impressed....

I will buy me a HUUUUGE drum set this week and practice at my barn (my "wif" would leave me if I put them in the basement)..... Playing the drums will help me to concentrate.... Why didn't I think of this sooner.... Freakin Drums!!!!.... I think that is your secret.... I've heard cattle like classical music.... Wonder how they'll like percussion.

Websman

01-17-2006, 03:19 PM

You are a genius at playing the POTW.... I'm very impressed....

I will buy me a HUUUUGE drum set this week and practice at my barn (my "wif" would leave me if I put them in the basement)..... Playing the drums will help me to concentrate.... Why didn't I think of this sooner.... Freakin Drums!!!!.... I think that is your secret.... I've heard cattle like classical music.... Wonder how they'll like percussion.

If I was smarter, I would have kept holding it. She's down by 2.47 now...

I'll send you a set of drums. I have extras.

skiracer

01-17-2006, 03:20 PM

I'm wishing now that I would have shorted CAL in my real porfolio.

Webs,
That's why I like to play them for real. That way when this happens you can really feel the joy. On the other side of the coin, if you wish in one hand and shit in the other, see which one fills up first. Just kidding with you Webs. Nice pick for the POTW but no cigar.

Websman

01-17-2006, 03:22 PM

Lye, my secret is simplicity. k.i.s.s. keep it simple stupid.

Websman

01-17-2006, 03:22 PM

Webs,
That's why I like to play them for real. That way when this happens you can really feel the joy. On the other side of the coin, if you wish in one hand and shit in the other, see which one fills up first. Just kidding with you Webs. Nice pick for the POTW but no cigar.

I ran out of cash...

But, I did short GM at 21.12 in my real portfolio...and I'm still holding...

Websman

01-17-2006, 03:25 PM

Lye, my secret is simplicity. k.i.s.s. keep it simple stupid.

Sometimes, I don't do that myself...

sowersnc

01-17-2006, 03:49 PM

I'll go with MO long for right now.

Lyehopper

01-17-2006, 03:51 PM

I found one I like.... PEIX ..... Webs will like this one because it's "simple".....

PEIX is "simply" a big moonshining operation masked as an alternitive fuel company.... Hey webs.... If the "feds" knock on your door.... tell em the brandy is just a new fuel attitive for your outboard motor.lol

Websman

01-17-2006, 03:56 PM

Runner

01-17-2006, 04:45 PM

Lye, I'll go with CRM long.

sisterwin2

01-17-2006, 06:55 PM

Darn.... not sure if I posted... thought I did but dont see it. Let me keep looking.

mimo_100

01-18-2006, 10:52 AM

Take me long with TXCO

look at that puppie scamper!

Runner

01-18-2006, 02:53 PM

LYE, take me out of CRM move to cash done for the week

mimo_100

01-18-2006, 03:08 PM

sell TXCO, buy ENER

tail between legs, puppy runs

Tim

IIC

01-18-2006, 03:19 PM

Out DXPE...I am switching to LIFC long...I think the news is overblown...although, I will not actually buy it for real today...Doug(IIC)

Shadow

01-18-2006, 03:37 PM

LYE, take me out of CRM move to cash done for the week

That was a good price jump today. Congratulations, you may
be the next winner! :)

I'm still learning, do you mind explaining why you moved out
if it was market related or are you just preserving winnings?

Thanks
Shadow

Lyehopper

01-18-2006, 03:54 PM

CRAP! I just realized that I forgot to figure up the score last night! Well.... Sorry fellas.... I'll get it tonight.

Runner

01-18-2006, 05:59 PM

That was a good price jump today. Congratulations, you may
be the next winner! :)

I'm still learning, do you mind explaining why you moved out
if it was market related or are you just preserving winnings?

Thanks
Shadow
Shadow, I closed out because my weekly personal goals have been met for this week. In fact I could chill out for a few months. I’ve had some nice streaks in the past and then overtraded drawing me down. This Year I’m alerted to this and will fix it.

Websman

01-18-2006, 06:37 PM

CRAP! I just realized that I forgot to figure up the score last night! Well.... Sorry fellas.... I'll get it tonight.

I think I'm in the lead...

scifos

01-18-2006, 09:24 PM

Hey all, whats going on here now-a-days? Lye said the rules are different, what's the changes?

billyjoe

01-18-2006, 09:31 PM

scifos

01-18-2006, 09:40 PM

Webs,
If you win this week can I be subscriber #1 to the vulcan investor newsletter? I'll pay you with a % of the gains and will also keep track of the losses and send you $$ for the difference. Very fair I think.

billyjoe

Whatever % he's willing to give you, I'LL DOUBLE IT!! and introduce you to all the women I know!

billyjoe

01-18-2006, 09:43 PM

I'll throw in a cost of living allowance !

billyjoe

Lyehopper

01-18-2006, 11:28 PM

Hey all, whats going on here now-a-days? Lye said the rules are different, what's the changes?

Here ya go Scifos.... Best change is the Cash position provision imo.... Here's a copy of the 2005 points race finals too. You did pretty good considering you received about 50 total % points in penalites.lol.... I finished this badly with NO penality points! I think Mikey Mouse played one game.LOL

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8243/potw06rules15pi.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4701/potw05finalpoints1vu.png (http://imageshack.us)

IIC

01-19-2006, 01:24 AM

CRAP! I just realized that I forgot to figure up the score last night! Well.... Sorry fellas.... I'll get it tonight.

OK...Now where the heck is it??? http://bestsmileys.com/angry1/8.gif

IIC

01-19-2006, 01:26 AM

Whatever % he's willing to give you, I'LL DOUBLE IT!! and introduce you to all the women I know!

Tell 'ya what...How 'bout you promise NOT to introduce me to them...And I'll send you all his pix???

PS...WELCOME BACK!!!...IIC

sowersnc

01-19-2006, 11:18 AM

Sell MO and BUY UNH

Lyehopper

01-19-2006, 01:11 PM

OK here it is FINALLY!!!!! Whew.... Another RECORD number of players this week! 24 Players....WOW.... including one "mystery" player.lol

WEBSMAN..... DUDE!!!! you are on FIRE!!!! you Vulcan stock picker you!

Runner jumps in and out QUICK!....hehehe.... He nails down 2nd.... Shrewd DUDE!!!!

IIC's Baaack.... Doug's in 3rd.

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/7553/potw118067ja.png (http://imageshack.us)

billyjoe

01-19-2006, 01:28 PM

Scifos,
I think Webs is talking over our offers with lawyers, advisors, agents, etc. We're too late. He's gone big time.

billyjoe

Karel

01-19-2006, 02:19 PM

My, my, Phazar/ANTP way over $21 right now. Isn't it time to give Pete a margin call? :D

Regards,

Karel

spikefader

01-19-2006, 02:46 PM

My, my, Phazar/ANTP way over $21 right now. Isn't it time to give Pete a margin call? :D

Regards,

Karelohhhhhhhhh low blow!

But gee it's a good shot.

It's picks like that one that makes POTW average suck bilge water. Stops save lives. :D

Moral of the story is never underestimate the power of a runaway gap.

Websman

01-19-2006, 05:15 PM

I'm not sure if I want to trade anything else for this week, I have a decent lead.

IIC

01-19-2006, 07:27 PM

I'm not sure if I want to trade anything else for this week, I have a decent lead.

I suggest you buy something...'Cause I've got the DT of the year that I'm gonna play tomorrow...Doug(IIC)

Wait a minute...I've already played 2 stocks...But I don't see anything in the rules that prohibits a third, fourth etc...pick.

Hey Judge...I need a ruling!!!

Websman

01-19-2006, 07:41 PM

I suggest you buy something...'Cause I've got the DT of the year that I'm gonna play tomorrow...Doug(IIC)

Wait a minute...I've already played 2 stocks...But I don't see anything in the rules that prohibits a third, fourth etc...pick.

Hey Judge...I need a ruling!!!

I must win. failure is not an option.

skiracer

01-19-2006, 07:42 PM

The Photon

01-19-2006, 08:29 PM

street apples..... maybe you guys should short my next pick...-

Websman

01-19-2006, 09:02 PM

I feel safe in my victory, unless Runner makes another pick. Of course, Gary is in RWC, and it looks poised to take off.

Runner

01-19-2006, 09:05 PM

I feel safe in my victory, unless Runner makes another pick. Of course, Gary is in RWC, and it looks poised to take off.
I'm done for the port of the week. I did get some stocks today though.

ParkTwain

01-19-2006, 09:31 PM

billyjoe

01-19-2006, 09:43 PM

Park,
Most of the people here will never get a pre-market price. Doug was known to make lots of great picks that often gapped up so it didn't show in his performance. I vote to leave it as it is.

billyjoe

skiracer

01-19-2006, 09:52 PM

I'm done for the port of the week. I did get some stocks today though.

Webs,
Congratulations on your win if it turns out that way but in all honesty I hate this situation where anyone can sit safely in cash for a couple of days without taking any risk and then claim a win. Nothing personal but it doesn't prove anything to me but those are the rules an that's how we are playing it. Call it a win but I don't like the rule or how it allows anyone to play it.

Websman

01-19-2006, 10:39 PM

Webs,
Congratulations on your win if it turns out that way but in all honesty I hate this situation where anyone can sit safely in cash for a couple of days without taking any risk and then claim a win. Nothing personal but it doesn't prove anything to me but those are the rules an that's how we are playing it. Call it a win but I don't like the rule or how it allows anyone to play it.

It's a cold cruel world. Life is not fair, but I must win at all costs. I can drink apple brandy and spit fire. I can piss a mile. I am a Vulcan. lol

I may let someone else win next week...maybe.

skiracer

01-19-2006, 10:43 PM

It's a cold cruel world. Life is not fair, but I must win at all costs. I can drink apple brandy and spit fire. I can piss a mile. I am a Vulcan. lol

I may let someone else win next week...maybe.

Webs,
Let it be me please, please, please, please, please. I'll give you half of my ELN trade today. I see why the woman love you. The ability to piss a mile can only conjure of other fantasys. You are a truly Vulcanized.

Shadow

01-19-2006, 10:50 PM

I can piss a mile. I am a Vulcan. lol
I may let someone else win next week...maybe.

I had a pkg delivered this week packed on dry ice. I asked
my son to take it out into the woods to "melt". He said he
prefered to piss on it! Can you melt dry ice?

Will you let me win?
Shadow

Websman

01-19-2006, 10:53 PM

Webs,
Let it be me please, please, please, please, please. I'll give you half of my ELN trade today. I see why the woman love you. The ability to piss a mile can only conjure of other fantasys. You are a truly Vulcanized.

I might be huge in the POTW contest, but you are the one who made a quick grand on ELN today....with real money....while I lost a grand.

IIC

01-19-2006, 10:56 PM

I must say that I don't like the rule re: a new position going into Monday gets the Monday open price. The guy who guesses right but the stock gaps up first thing on Monday gets penalized. (I also could have bought near the previous close in pre-market trading.) Other contests I have played give me the Friday close instead. What do we think?

"We" think that's a bad idea.

Here's why...I happen to read tons of news over the weekend. Some of that news is gonna cause a stock to gap one way or the other...But even if it trades pre-m...it doesn't mean I can get it at about the same price pre-m on Monday that it closed on Friday.

Ever take a look at the "Morning Movers" list I post on my thread almost every market morning? 95%+ of those are gonna gap. I could simply pick the one that moves the most pre-m on Monday and then bail in the contest about 10 mins after the market opens...Not very realistic IMO.

I regularly participate in other contests every week...One does it like you say except that if there is news after the close on friday...but before the market opens on monday AND it gaps more than 5% then you get the gap price...That really doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me...but I was out voted.

Now, lets take my current holding in this contest...LIFC. Last night I was in 3rd place because I bailed on DXPE and switched to LIFC at the bottom (Or close to it)...In another contest I am in where you get the Monday open but can't change all week...Last night I was in last place.

Personally, I think Lye's contest is the most realistic of all the one's I'm in...But, since there is no monetary prize I must admit that I do my own real trades first before I come over here and change my contest pick.

To make it really realistic I say we each take 10 grand and really trade it...But I would like to see the winner get a 10 grand prize...Heck, we get 50 participants to put up 200 bux each...Trade the 10 grand however you want...Winner Take All every week...What do "We" think???...Doug(IIC)

billyjoe

01-19-2006, 11:00 PM

While we're on the subject, sculptors commonly piss on bronze to give it patina. There were stories a few years ago that bells were cast in China , pissed on and buried for 30 days then shipped to the U.S. and sold as antique school bells. I believe the story.

billyjoe

ParkTwain

01-19-2006, 11:26 PM

If I can show that a trade in fact occurred during pre-market on Monday at a price lower than the opening price on Monday, can I get the lower pre-open price? :)

Sometimes there is news about a stock that I picked that happens after pre-market opens but before the exchanges open. I want to be able to get credit for early knowledge without being penalized by a gap up. Of course, my pick of BRY this week is an example.

This link (Nasdaq'a own ECN) shows pre-market trades in a given stock:

http://www.nasdaq.com/aspxcontent/ExtendedTradingTrades.aspx?symbol=OXPS&selected=OXPS&mode=frameset&page=afterhours

Bus Week also has a link that shows something similar (I think it may use a different ECN).

ParkTwain

01-19-2006, 11:31 PM

I feel safe in my victory, unless Runner makes another pick. Of course, Gary is in RWC, and it looks poised to take off.

Your wussie quotient just went up appreciably. A Vulcan wussie, what a combination. Disgraceful! :)

Lye, this contest tends to reward a one-trade-per-week scalper. That's not the original purpose, and that's not a very realistic combination of skills to be exercising on our board. If the contest is constructed to reward scalping skills, let's allow any number of trades per week.

ParkTwain

01-19-2006, 11:34 PM

":But even if it trades pre-m...it doesn't mean I can get it at about the same price pre-m on Monday that it closed on Friday."

If someone IN FACT got it at a lower pre-open price, then it could've been me. That's also pretty realistic. 'Nuff said, says I.

Lyehopper

01-19-2006, 11:41 PM

Lyehopper

01-19-2006, 11:47 PM

Webs,
Congratulations on your win if it turns out that way but in all honesty I hate this situation where anyone can sit safely in cash for a couple of days without taking any risk and then claim a win. Nothing personal but it doesn't prove anything to me but those are the rules an that's how we are playing it. Call it a win but I don't like the rule or how it allows anyone to play it.

The rules are fair because they apply equally to everyone. You have the same chance to nail down a gain and move to cash just like the next guy.... It's a good rule. Allows a player to build a strategy. What's wrong with that?

Lyehopper

01-19-2006, 11:52 PM

"We" think that's a bad idea.

Here's why...I happen to read tons of news over the weekend. Some of that news is gonna cause a stock to gap one way or the other...But even if it trades pre-m...it doesn't mean I can get it at about the same price pre-m on Monday that it closed on Friday.

Ever take a look at the "Morning Movers" list I post on my thread almost every market morning? 95%+ of those are gonna gap. I could simply pick the one that moves the most pre-m on Monday and then bail in the contest about 10 mins after the market opens...Not very realistic IMO.

I regularly participate in other contests every week...One does it like you say except that if there is news after the close on friday...but before the market opens on monday AND it gaps more than 5% then you get the gap price...That really doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me...but I was out voted.

Now, lets take my current holding in this contest...LIFC. Last night I was in 3rd place because I bailed on DXPE and switched to LIFC at the bottom (Or close to it)...In another contest I am in where you get the Monday open but can't change all week...Last night I was in last place.

Personally, I think Lye's contest is the most realistic of all the one's I'm in...But, since there is no monetary prize I must admit that I do my own real trades first before I come over here and change my contest pick.

To make it really realistic I say we each take 10 grand and really trade it...But I would like to see the winner get a 10 grand prize...Heck, we get 50 participants to put up 200 bux each...Trade the 10 grand however you want...Winner Take All every week...What do "We" think???...Doug(IIC)

Now you're talkin Doug!!!! I like "ACTION".... I'm in DUDE!!!!

ParkTwain

01-19-2006, 11:53 PM

I agree with ski. See my previous (edited) post #3308 in this thread.

Lyehopper

01-19-2006, 11:56 PM

Your wussie quotient just went up appreciably. A Vulcan wussie, what a combination. Disgraceful! :)

Lye, this contest tends to reward a one-trade-per-week scalper. That's not the original purpose, and that's not a very realistic combination of skills to be exercising on our board. If the contest is constructed to reward scalping skills, let's allow any number of trades per week.

a 10% gain is a 10% gain no matter how long or short the duration of the trade was.... DUDE!!!!.... Quit cryin....

ParkTwain

01-19-2006, 11:59 PM

IIC

01-20-2006, 12:14 AM

The rules only mention a first and second pick.... Therefore two picks is indeed the limit per week.

What a crock...If a law says I cannot spit on the sidewalk...Does that mean I will get arrested for spitting in the street?...Just for that I'm not gonna reveal my "Day Trade Of The Year"...Until after I make my 3 bux a share tomorrow***

Lyehopper

01-20-2006, 12:18 AM

FELLAS!!!! I really like this contest It was the first thread I responded to when I came here.... I'll always play reguardless of the rules.... I DO however understand that the same-old-same-old gets boring sometimes.... I would be very happy to pass the score keeping duties to another palyer at the end of January. The scorekeeper has always reserved the right to make and establish the rules in the POTW.

Anyone who wishes to take the helm of the POTW starting 02-06-06 please speak up. Of course BillyJoe owns the contest so he might have to bless the situation but that gives you plenty of time to come up with a good set of rules and discuss them with the players if desired.... Plus I'm getting more and more covered up with my various duties and responsibilities outside the $$MM$$ universe.lol.... I could use a break. We could still easily keep the points system in place with a change in scorekeepers. My vision of the "H" factor is not dead just sleeping.hehehhe.... I'll surely awaken it sometime in the future.

~Lye

Lyehopper

01-20-2006, 12:20 AM

What a crock...If a law says I cannot spit on the sidewalk...Does that mean I will get arrested for spitting in the street?...Just for that I'm not gonna reveal my "Day Trade Of The Year"...Until after I make my 3 bux a share tomorrow***

Three bucks per share on GOOG still sucks when compared to Webs' score Doug.... You lose.

IIC

01-20-2006, 12:22 AM

You see my point though, right? What we have here is a one-trade-per-week scalping contest. (I was going to say "what we have here is a dead shark." Who can tell me which movie I am quoting? Should be an easy one, and it's not the Liz Phair song.)

"A relationship, I think, is like a shark. You know? It has to constantly move forward or it dies. And I think what we got on our hands is a dead shark"
– Woody Allen

Annie Hall 1977...What do I Win???

ParkTwain

01-20-2006, 12:25 AM

You win my dog-eared copy of "The Film Encyclopedia" (hey, 1,552 pages ain't chopped liver). I pay the postage. :)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060742143/qid=1137731070/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2/103-7992838-0689465?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

ParkTwain

01-20-2006, 12:29 AM

Doug, assuming you didn't cheat and Google for the answer, you might be a 1970s movie fan. What is your favorite quote from the movie "Network"?

IIC

01-20-2006, 12:32 AM

IIC

01-20-2006, 12:37 AM

Doug, assuming you didn't cheat and Google for the answer, you might be a 1970s movie fan. What is your favorite quote from the movie "Network"?

I confess...I cheated...But my favorite movie quote was Michael Douglas in Wall Street..."Lunch is for Wimps"..And I didn't even have to look that up...Doug

PS...I always say..."Movies are for people without real lives"...I really do say that...I also say that about fictional books...Just the way I am I guess...However, I did like "A Summer Place"...See...there's a soft side to me.

Lyehopper

01-20-2006, 12:40 AM

You do just fine...Don't worry about it...I'll even reveal my DT of the year tomorrow morn if it acts right...Doug

You don't understand.... I need a break. Someone be thinking about taking the job for a while starting 02-06-06. It would help to have portfolio tracking software though. Using mine has saved me alot of time from the old way of scorekeeping. And to keep the number of allowed picks to a minimum helps the scorekeeper too. If someone has Vector-Vest I can tell you how I use "V-V Portfolio Tracker" to keep the score.

ParkTwain

01-20-2006, 12:41 AM

A memorable line for me is by Mr. Bernstein in Orson Welles's "Citizen Kane" when he says "It's not so hard to make a lot of money if all you want to do is make a lot of money."

IIC

01-20-2006, 01:11 AM

A memorable line for me is by Mr. Bernstein in Orson Welles's "Citizen Kane" when he says "It's not so hard to make a lot of money if all you want to do is make a lot of money."

Actually...I have a whole lot of quotes...Many I really do try to live by...The following is not one of them...But I always liked this one that was attributed to infamous Bank Robber Willie Sutton when he was asked why he robbed banks???

He said..."Because that's where the money is"

http://www.banking.com/aba/profile_0397.htm

Lyehopper

01-20-2006, 02:17 AM

Lye,
You've got me in OIH at $144.90 an I have it at $144.61. Check it out will you please. I'm pretty sure it's $144.61. I can print my raw data screen out it you would like me to. Anyone else got it?

Sell OIH at the open and buy ELN - long for me will you please.

Go ahead and post your "raw data screen" Ski.... I'd like to see it....

I have you down for OIH on post #3248 @ 6:27AM EST on Tuesday 01-17-06.... That would give you the opening price on 01-17-06.... Here's my data for the "open" on 01-17-06.... $144.90

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6330/oih8as.png (http://imageshack.us)

Karel

01-20-2006, 03:34 AM

You don't understand.... I need a break. Someone be thinking about taking the job for a while starting 02-06-06. It would help to have portfolio tracking software though. Using mine has saved me alot of time from the old way of scorekeeping. And to keep the number of allowed picks to a minimum helps the scorekeeper too. If someone has Vector-Vest I can tell you how I use "V-V Portfolio Tracker" to keep the score.
I think I understand, Lye. You do an excellent job, but keeping score every day really nails ones foot down. You could also consider to cut back on that: publish the opening price for every position, and then the final score. When you find you have too much time, drop in a midweek ranking, or just a rant against someone who thinks he's first.

Other timesavers, ordered from preferable to more time saved:
- allow only one stock or cash
- allow only holdings from sometime Monday through Friday close
- allow only holdings from Monday open through Friday close

I realise that the last two and especially the last hurt TAers much more than a B&H type like me, but for me it's like "whatever it takes to salvage the POTW".

Regards,

Karel

skiracer

01-20-2006, 07:39 AM

Go ahead and post your "raw data screen" Ski.... I'd like to see it....

I have you down for OIH on post #3248 @ 6:27AM EST on Tuesday 01-17-06.... That would give you the opening price on 01-17-06.... Here's my data for the "open" on 01-17-06.... $144.90

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6330/oih8as.png (http://imageshack.us)

Lye,
No big deal but if I have a chance to beat the, "sitting in cash and playing it safe Vulcan", then I must do what I must do. Here is my raw data and time of sales screen for OIH on 1/17/06 @ 9:00:07 AM. Also as posted last night sell OIH at the open today and buy ELN - long at the open today. Thanks Lye. I was also thinking that a few of us each week could take one or two days of keeping score and posting the results for that day to take the burden off of you for awhile. You've done a spectacular job at creating a monster of a POTW and I for one don't want to see it go down the drain. I'm up to my ears in work running two business operations and will make some time to keep it going as you have it running now. How about if we make it so that the guy running it gets a bonus each week for running it. Say .5 % or 1 % but not until I take my turn and not until you finish your term. LOL.

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/777/oih9dq.png (http://imageshack.us)

Websman

01-20-2006, 07:40 AM

I would be happy to bow out of the contest if the board is not pleased with my way of trading...

skiracer

01-20-2006, 07:44 AM

I would be happy to bow out of the contest if the board is not pleased with my way of trading...

Webs,
You know that I am just kidding as I know that you are just kidding, No Vulcan would ever give up the chance at the recognition and notoriety for winning any contest. Just kidding with you Webs. If ELN doesn't spike immensely today and take the lead away from you then you deserve the win. Rules are rules and it's no problemo on my part. Just sticking a small needle in there for the fun of it.

mimo_100

01-20-2006, 08:16 AM

You don't understand.... I need a break. Someone be thinking about taking the job for a while starting 02-06-06. It would help to have portfolio tracking software though. Using mine has saved me alot of time from the old way of scorekeeping. And to keep the number of allowed picks to a minimum helps the scorekeeper too. If someone has Vector-Vest I can tell you how I use "V-V Portfolio Tracker" to keep the score.

Lye,

You do a great job and deserve a rest. I could not do it -- heck, I only have a couple hundred posts since we came to this site.

Here is a suggestion:

What if we create a “spreadsheet” in cyberspace that is accessible to all players. Each

player enters their own trades, max 2. Modify the rules so that a person can buy/sell on a Friday close (or last trading day of the week) for the “next” weekly contest.

When the contest is over, one person goes back and checks the opening and closing transaction prices for accuracy, then posts that the contest has been audited. Each person can look at the spreadsheet to see how they did.

Regarding OIH 144.90 versus 144.60, I believe the rules use the opening price, not the bid and ask price, isn’t that correct?

Tim

Websman

01-20-2006, 08:19 AM

Webs,
You know that I am just kidding as I know that you are just kidding, No Vulcan would ever give up the chance at the recognition and notoriety for winning any contest. Just kidding with you Webs. If ELN doesn't spike immensely today and take the lead away from you then you deserve the win. Rules are rules and it's no problemo on my part. Just sticking a small needle in there for the fun of it.

I hope ELN spikes. I have real money in it. lol

IIC

01-20-2006, 10:07 AM

I'm in another weekly contest where we use the Motley Fool to track everything

Rob

01-20-2006, 10:33 AM

Here is my raw data and time of sales screen for OIH on 1/17/06 @ 9:00:07 AM.

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/777/oih9dq.png (http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/777/oih9dq.png)

Hiya, skiracer.

Pardon me for butting in, but doesn't the market open at 9:30?

Lyehopper

01-20-2006, 10:34 AM

Lye,
No big deal but if I have a chance to beat the, "sitting in cash and playing it safe Vulcan", then I must do what I must do. Here is my raw data and time of sales screen for OIH on 1/17/06 @ 9:00:07 AM. Also as posted last night sell OIH at the open today and buy ELN - long at the open today. Thanks Lye. I was also thinking that a few of us each week could take one or two days of keeping score and posting the results for that day to take the burden off of you for awhile. You've done a spectacular job at creating a monster of a POTW and I for one don't want to see it go down the drain. I'm up to my ears in work running two business operations and will make some time to keep it going as you have it running now. How about if we make it so that the guy running it gets a bonus each week for running it. Say .5 % or 1 % but not until I take my turn and not until you finish your term. LOL.

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/777/oih9dq.png (http://imageshack.us)

Nice fancy chart there Skiracer.... but in Bedford county Virginia the market dosen't open until 9:30 AM dude.... Now when you start keeping score you can make it 9:00 AM if you'd perfer.... But for now you gotta live with 9:30....

01-20-2006, 10:37 AM

It looks like Gary Is going to take Webs out. Lye your doing such a great job don't leave us now. I'll send you a dart board no cost.

Lyehopper

01-20-2006, 12:36 PM

Hiya, skiracer.

Pardon me for butting in, but doesn't the market open at 9:30?

Hey Rob you can butt in anytime.... as long as you're on my side.hehehe....

Dude, You would make a really great scorekeeper for this contest. Being the computor genius that you are, I bet you know of an easier way to spread the scorecard too. Give it some thought man.... It's great to see you post'n on the forum again!

~Lye

Lyehopper

01-20-2006, 02:54 PM

sell PEIX.... buy ECOL

Lyehopper

01-20-2006, 03:11 PM

It looks like Gary Is going to take Webs out. Lye your doing such a great job don't leave us now. I'll send you a dart board no cost.

COOL.... lets see.... Webs is sending me a used drum set, and you're sending me a dart board.... Anyone got any extra rabbit beagles? I need some more good beagles. I'll trade a fine Redtick Coonhound bitch for 4 good rabbit beagles.

billyjoe

01-20-2006, 04:26 PM

Believe it or not my personal portfolio reached an all time high yesterday. Is down a bit today, but not much bolstered by BEL FDG EGY. Can't check mutual funds that easily. They probably took a bigger hit.

billyjoe

Karel

01-20-2006, 04:31 PM

I believe you. Mine did too, and a bit extra early this day! In $$$ of course, but in €€€ I am also close to an all time high.

Regards,

Karel

01-20-2006, 04:33 PM

Well Gary guess you couldn't pull It off. Way to go Webs

Gary611

01-20-2006, 04:53 PM

Well Gary guess you couldn't pull It off. Way to go Webs

Well if I was in the lead, it was thanks to a misprint!! I actually was LONG all week in RWC!!! WHOOP,WHOOP, WHOOP!!!

Congratulations, Web!! You're truly a knucklehead,,,,,,,,,,,and that is a GOOD THING!!

I may go with CASH for the rest of the year, AGH,AGH,AGH!!!

Lyehopper

01-20-2006, 05:00 PM

Well if I was in the lead, it was thanks to a misprint!! I actually was LONG all week in RWC!!! WHOOP,WHOOP, WHOOP!!!

Congratulations, Web!! You're truly a knucklehead,,,,,,,,,,,and that is a GOOD THING!!

I may go with CASH for the rest of the year, AGH,AGH,AGH!!!

LOL.... Sorry guys, Gary private messaged me this morning and reminded me he was not short RWC.... I'll fix the error when I post the final. Gary's one honest stooge!

skiracer

01-20-2006, 06:38 PM

Hiya, skiracer.

Pardon me for butting in, but doesn't the market open at 9:30?

Jeez, Lye give me an uppercut will ya please. Space city I guess. Don't know what I was thinking but it was wrong. Sorry guys. Real nice play today exiting OIH and taking ELN long huh. I really do need an uppercut.
Stopped out of ELN this morning at at $14.30 and $14.40. What happened to this stock? I didn't see anything on the news. This could be a golden opportunity but that's alot of volume and maybe someone knows something about the reinstatement of Tysarbi getting approval or non-approval. I wanted to buy it at the LOD but just couldn't bring myself to do it. Kind of wish I did now.

Websman

01-20-2006, 06:51 PM

Jeez, Lye give me an uppercut will ya please. Space city I guess. Don't know what I was thinking but it was wrong. Sorry guys. Real nice play today exiting OIH and taking ELN long huh. I really do need an uppercut.
Stopped out of ELN this morning at at $14.30 and $14.40. What happened to this stock? I didn't see anything on the news. This could be a golden opportunity but that's alot of volume and maybe someone knows something about the reinstatement of Tysarbi getting approval or non-approval. I wanted to buy it at the LOD but just couldn't bring myself to do it. Kind of wish I did now.

The market whipped my --- today, along with ELN. I was sitting on a small gain for 2006. Now I'm sitting on a 3% loss. it's a good thing the year is early. I cut all of my positions but ELN. I would consider a further drop in ELN as a great buying opportunity.

Websman

01-20-2006, 06:55 PM

I believe you. Mine did too, and a bit extra early this day! In $$$ of course, but in €€€ I am also close to an all time high.

Regards,

Karel

The Euro rocks! I have 120.00 Euro stting in my change jar. It should be more than enough to buy a ticket on the RER from CDG to my hotel.

Unfortunately, I got my Euro out of an ATM in Paris, last year when the Euro was at 1.30 to the US Dollar. Now it's 1.20...

Shadow

01-20-2006, 07:16 PM

I have had better days but I survived. Managed to stay
in the green till the last hour and then all turned red.
The hardest hit today was my POTW pic....
LOL....go figure.

I'm actually still up 27 1/4% on AIRM after today so I
won't complain. Today was hard on gains but I'm still
up 7% for the year. :)

Shadow

jiesen

01-20-2006, 07:41 PM

congrats on another HUGE victory, webs! well played.

Lyehopper

01-21-2006, 03:47 PM

Webs does it again folks!!!! This Vulcan is HUUUUUGE!!!! Very skillfull play this week DUDE!!!!....HEY!!!!.... Know how you can tell when you're really good Websman?.... The competition complains about your "tactics" alot....LOL

Runner adopts similar tactics in this tough week and places second.... HUGE play for you too dude!

Gator finishes third.... Jiesen and ParkTwain round out the top five.... Nice job!!!! and a smack on the back to all players finishing green this week....

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5166/potw120069vh.png (http://imageshack.us)

Websman

01-21-2006, 03:55 PM

I'm not at all suprised by my win... The Vulcan way of trading is superior.

Shadow

01-21-2006, 04:04 PM

The Vulcan way of trading is superior.

I think you may be right! :)

Congratulations on another fine win!

Shadow

skiracer

01-21-2006, 04:14 PM

ELN - long this week to start. If winning means that much to sit out safely in cash two or three days, personally I'd rather lose.

IIC

01-21-2006, 04:24 PM

Congrats Webs.

Actually...I believe that the highest probability of getting a jump start on the week lies with those who start in cash...So Lye...start me out in cash...Doug(IIC)

Websman

01-21-2006, 04:59 PM

ELN - long this week to start. If winning means that much to sit out safely in cash two or three days, personally I'd rather lose.

Losing is not an option...

Websman

01-21-2006, 05:00 PM

I'll start in $$$CASH$$$

01-21-2006, 05:24 PM

No b---S NO GLORY.

skiracer

01-21-2006, 05:28 PM

No b---S NO GLORY.

Way to go Ray. The Buffalo Kid brings it on!!

Websman

01-21-2006, 05:29 PM

Logic prevails....

skiracer

01-21-2006, 05:32 PM

Logic prevails....

Truer words were never spoken. Logic will always prevail but the Buffalo Kid's axiom is just as true. NBNG forever!!

Lyehopper

01-22-2006, 12:59 AM

I'll start the week off in "cash"....

spikefader

01-22-2006, 01:34 AM

lol....Webs!! Man, I never get sick of saying well done to a Vulcan, especially one as modest as you! lol

skiracer

01-22-2006, 01:41 AM

lol....Webs!! Man, I never get sick of saying well done to a Vulcan, especially one as modest as you! lol
Spike,
Well done Webs. Couldn't happen to a better Vulcan. I think we should start calling Webs the Modesto Kid. Sort of in tribute to his modesty and humility in winnig these last couple of weeks. The Modesto Kid. Has a certain ring to it like Billy the Kid or the Vulcan Kid. Just having a good time with you at your expense Webs. We actually really love you but Ed not really like that.

jiesen

01-22-2006, 04:32 AM

start me in cash, too. why buck the trend?

spikefader

01-22-2006, 04:35 AM

Taking GM short this week dudes!

Good luck all.

mimo_100

01-22-2006, 08:23 AM

Lye,

I'll start the week in CA$H

Tim

Karel

01-22-2006, 09:33 AM

Webs! Congratulations. And hey folks, don't call this Vulcan modest. To a Vulcan it just doesn't make sense to be modest. Not while he is winning, anyway. Isn't he superior?

And this week the POTW beat my Mechanical Fund! Congratulations Lye and all! But with 8-2 there is still some catching up to do! Have at it!

I'm am afraid there is more incentive to protect gains, especially at the top of the rankings, than to cut losses. This drags the POTW down. (And your own average, I might add.) Play the POTW as if it were your own money, folks! You are here to win, if not first place, then at least that green average!

And Lye, I confirm CMCO long!

Regards,

Karel

New-born baby

01-22-2006, 09:38 AM

I am going to start the week in cash.

Karel

01-22-2006, 09:42 AM

Cash, cash, cash? What is this, the Pick Of The Wimps contest? :D

Regards,

Karel

billyjoe

01-22-2006, 10:03 AM

Karel is correct and I can't get any worse so this week's winner is DWCH long.

billyjoe

Websman

01-22-2006, 11:39 AM

Taking GM short this week dudes!

Good luck all.

I might even take GM short with real money.

01-22-2006, 12:47 PM

Karel your right on, thought this was a stock picking contest?

Karel

01-22-2006, 01:22 PM

Karel your right on, thought this was a stock picking contest?
Well, I am pathologically long, dutifully following $$$Mr.Market$$$'s "Every day there are hundreds of stocks setting new highs, no matter what happens in the overall market." Of course everyone has a right to start in cash, or go to cash to protect gains, I am not whining about it, but they ARE wimps, even if they win :D

Regards,

Karel

01-22-2006, 01:33 PM

Here Is my pick for the week UDRL [long] time to get ready for the football.

Runner

01-22-2006, 03:28 PM

billyjoe

01-22-2006, 04:26 PM

Webs,
Mr.Market may be HUGE , but you are a GIANT in the POTW. 7 victories makes you #1 of all time. There's no pressure on me since I'm not a contender, but Jiesen and Doug, get it in gear. Webs victories are adding up with increasing frequency. I'm rooting for you guys. Ray and Ski , don't just lay around drinking beer and watching the tube, lets go. Drutzen, where are you when we need you?

billyjoe

sekto

01-22-2006, 04:51 PM

Lye, put me down for EMKR Long. Thanks!

billyjoe

01-22-2006, 05:41 PM

Lye,
Could you look deep into the POTW rulebook and see what is written about medical leave? I'm going to be gone for I don't know how long. If it is permitted I'll enter 3 stocks in advance one for each of the next 3 weeks. If not, how about in cash until further notice?
The good news, when I return I'll be bionic: carbon chrome alloy and stainless steel, ready to battle the Vulcan. It'll be bigger than Godzilla vs. Rodan. Awaiting your ruling.

billyjoe

Lyehopper

01-22-2006, 05:50 PM

Karel

01-22-2006, 05:58 PM

I thought I was within the boundaries or parameters of the rules. ... Lye, put me in cash for the rest of the year!!
Come on Runner, what is this! You can take a taunt like the best of us, can't you? :)

People should be able to play the POTW just as they like (within the rules).

Regards,

Karel

Lyehopper

01-22-2006, 06:14 PM

Cash, cash, cash? What is this, the Pick Of The Wimps contest? :D

Regards,

Karel

Karel... Come on dude! Why are you so boring? You must see the advantage of the cash provision. It allows a player to build a strategy, much like real life investing.

If your strategy is buy and hold.... Then.... buy and hold.

If your strategy is to.... go into cash and stalk a stock on the move.... buy it then sell it four hours later.... then go back to cash for two days.... then stalk a stock short.... then move back to cash... Then you are allowed to do that!!!!

Every player has the same chance since we all have the same rules.

It's a good contest.... thus the ever increasing participation.

I've yet to have anyone offer to take over as scorekeeper yet.... How about you Karel? Will you take the contest over in February? If you do.... you can make it as boring as you'd like, and I won't complain.

~Lye

billyjoe

01-22-2006, 06:33 PM

Lye,
-------Jan 30----SYNP
-------Feb. 6 ----FTHR
-------Feb 13----HOKU

I'm confident I'll be back soon, but just in case. See ya down the road, Lye.

billyjoe

Websman

01-22-2006, 06:35 PM

It's time to prove how superior a Vulcan is by blowing my naysayers out of the water...jejeje.

Lye, I'm going with one pick and one pick only. I will open my position tomorrow morning and will stay with it until the market close on Friday. I will either win this contest or I will end up in the top 5.

My pick for the week is... CAL short. Yes, my friends, CAL will tank this week and I will be victorious. jejeje....

scifos

01-22-2006, 06:38 PM

Lyehopper

01-22-2006, 06:44 PM

Lye,
-------Jan 30----SYNP
-------Feb. 6 ----FTHR
-------Feb 13----HOKU

I'm confident I'll be back soon, but just in case. See ya down the road, Lye.

billyjoe

Dude, you take care ok?

I'll be thinkin about you.... I'll try to keep your thread in tact in you're absence. Do I have your permission to beat up on Karel while you're gone.... Or would you rather I wait till you can watch?

DSteckler

01-22-2006, 06:46 PM

<< It'll be bigger than Godzilla vs. Rodan. >>

But what about Ghidrah, the Three-Headed Monster?

skiracer

01-22-2006, 07:01 PM

Seems many are not happy with the rules of this game….hhhee My personnel plan was not to win this thing guys and in all honesty I really could care less. My goal for this game was to achieve 5% per week, that’s it.

I thought I was within the boundaries or parameters of the rules. That is ok as I see the general tone of popping in and out of a position is considered poor sportsmanship. We can’t have that and so having reviewed several comments I will ban myself from the game. After all it is a game and so it really does not matter. As we all know it is what happens in our own account that matters.

Best wishes for all contestants and maybe the rules will be changed in such a manner as to please everyone evolved. Maybe the winner will be titled the huge one and gets a pat on the back.

Lye, put me in cash for the rest of the year!!

Runner,
If it was anything I said please don't take it to heart. You guys can stay in cash all week an it wouldn't be any big deal in my head. The rules allow the cash positions and that's it. I don't want you to think I'm down on you guys. Play it the way you want to play it and it'll be alright with me. So please stay in the POTW. Make Webs leave but you stay. He's already won 7 times and we should kidnap him and put him in a room somewhere for a couple of weeks so the rest of us have a chance. Please stay. Wasn't that a song by the Drifters. Everyone that wants Runner to stay in the POTW start humming that song Please Stay and mental telepathy it to him until he changes his mind and stays in the POTW.

Lyehopper

01-22-2006, 07:04 PM

Give me CVX long. btw Lye, I'm curious if you've been penalizing me for the first 3 weeks of January. If you are then I protest, with the cash position rule, it should be assumed that a non-player is in cash.

Weeeeell Scifos.... We did not count the first week, it was a "test week", so you're safe there.... Two weeks penality is in question here.

Now.... I might (sometimes) enter a player who does not want to play.... But I'll never assume a player actually wants to play.

The cash provision was designed to show a player's "intent to play".... A player MUST make "some sort of" effort to be entered into ca$h or a stock each week. If he does so.... he will avoid the 5% points race penality.

Here's what I'll do.... You give me a very GOOD reason why you have missed the contest for the past three weeks and I'll make a ruling. NOW....If it was because you were off protesting gun laws down in Florida?.... you're screwed dude!....LOL

Lyehopper

01-22-2006, 07:08 PM

Runner,
If it was anything I said please don't take it to heart. You guys can stay in cash all week an it wouldn't be any big deal in my head. The rules allow the cash positions and that's it. I don't want you to think I'm down on you guys. Play it the way you want to play it and it'll be alright with me. So please stay in the POTW. Make Webs leave but you stay. He's already won 7 times and we should kidnap him and put him in a room somewhere for a couple of weeks so the rest of us have a chance. Please stay. Wasn't that a song by the Drifters. Everyone that wants Runner to stay in the POTW start humming that song Please Stay and mental telepathy it to him until he changes his mind and stays in the POTW.

Ski.... I think Runner's kidding. He enjoys winning just like the rest of us. The old "If you don't like my style I won't play" routine, is a strategy in it's self.lol

Lyehopper

01-22-2006, 07:13 PM

Gatorman

01-22-2006, 07:18 PM

I'll take ONNN long

01-22-2006, 07:59 PM

Certainly hope It wasn't me for telling Webs No B---S No Glory for staying In cash I really could care less. [hehehe] after all he dose not appear to be human the way he Is beating us In this contest. Come on Runner change your mind and re enter the POTW we want you In It.

Websman

01-22-2006, 08:38 PM

Runner, if you do not enter the contest, I will be forced to put myself in the Vulcan death grip...and that really hurts.

IIC

01-22-2006, 08:38 PM

Websman

01-22-2006, 08:47 PM

I'll bet you a dollar you don't win this week...Doug

You're on human... jejeje [TICK] Look at that doggie run!

IIC

01-22-2006, 08:56 PM

Give me CVX long. btw Lye, I'm curious if you've been penalizing me for the first 3 weeks of January. If you are then I protest, with the cash position rule, it should be assumed that a non-player is in cash.

Well Banana Boy ;) http://coldforged.org/images/bananadance.gif ...Rules are Rules...and I don't particularly agree with all of them either...In fact, I coulda been a contenda if Lye had let me make a third pick on Friday (Even though I don't see anything in the rules prohibiting such)...But, since I'm not gonna volunteer to be scorekeeper I will go along w/ whatever rules...no matter how bizarre...that the scorekeeper presents.

BTW LYE...I will be on a 3 day cruise for my B-day in April...so put me down for cash starting April 17th.

However, my vote is that the violators of the penalty rule be given amnesty for the month of January...Heck, it takes a month of the reading rules to even understand them...Doug(IIC)

ParkTwain

01-22-2006, 09:34 PM

Karel, maybe we should open a new thread for "POTW, Rules Discussion" I have a few more things to add, if anyone is interested.

scifos

01-22-2006, 09:55 PM

Now.... I might (sometimes) enter a player who does not want to play.... But I'll never assume a player actually wants to play.
If you aren't assuming a player wants to play then why would I be penalized for the weeks I missed. You would be assuming I wanted to play those weeks. If someone enters the contest on , say the second week of July, are you going to penalize them for the 25 or so weeks of 2006 he didn't play? If I remember right, the contest was restarted at the beginning of January, so just because I played last year doesn't mean you should assume I was going to play this year.

The cash provision was designed to show a player's "intent to play"
I thought it was to allow players to implement their own stratigy, be it buy and hold or stalking a quick play.

A player MUST make "some sort of" effort to be entered into ca$h or a stock each week. Why must a player show effort. I disagree with you here, I think a player (if you are going to assume I'm playing at all and will then count the weeks I've missed) who doesn't make a pick should be assumed to be in cash.

If it was because you were off protesting gun laws down in Florida?.... you're screwed dude!....LOL
We could discuss gun laws and how crazily absurd flordia's law is anytime.

skiracer

01-22-2006, 10:01 PM

Scifos,
Why didn't you play these last three weeks? What were the reasons for not being able to call in or get in.

IIC

01-22-2006, 10:04 PM

Karel, maybe we should open a new thread for "POTW, Rules Discussion" I have a few more things to add, if anyone is interested.

I'm interested Park...I have ideas of how to run the contest too...But let's face it...Being scorekeeper is not a "Paying" job. I don't know about you...But I co-mod 2 small groups...Guess I'm still the moderator of Yahoo CSSP(Over 1600) since I didn't delete the group yet and I Mod Breakouts which consisted of over 300 Canslimmers who got tired of me posting all my Daytrade stuff...so that group is dead too.

I will admit...I've met a lot of good people over the years because I moderated groups...Most come and go...But I have met over 60 people in person that I originally met from stock groups...Some I still trade ideas with...Some are true friends.

Anyway, the contest is fun...Doesn't mean the best trader/investor in real life is the winner of the contest...The contest is just to share ideas IMO. I personally check out certain people's pix...I believe that is what it is really all about...Just to share ideas...So IMO...It really doesn't matter what the rules are...And yes...you are one of the people I pay attention to...Best, Doug(IIC)

ParkTwain

01-22-2006, 10:07 PM

thanx, doug, regards to you, too

Peter Hansen

01-22-2006, 10:15 PM

Lye put in STEM SHORT for me. Just going by a candlestick chart. I can no do any worse than last week.........last place....ouch ! Lye though you would get a chuckle out of article in NY Post which states that "Gay cowboys are coming out of the corral in droves since the release of the controversial film Brokeback Mountain ." Wow that's definitely one corral to stay away from ......LOL. Lye have have a great week.

Websman

01-22-2006, 10:24 PM

Lye though you would get a chuckle out of article in NY Post which states that "Gay cowboys are coming out of the corral in droves since the release of the controversial film Brokeback Mountain ." Wow that's definitely one corral to stay away from ......LOL. Lye have have a great week.

The moral decay of society continues...

DSteckler

01-22-2006, 10:28 PM

<< The moral decay of society continues... >>

Post of the Week.

skiracer

01-22-2006, 10:53 PM

<< The moral decay of society continues... >>

Post of the Week.

Dave,
I had to ask you this. Was post of the week intentional (POTW) portfolio of the week or not. Peter's post makes the axiom about cowboys and their love for their horses much more meaningful.

scifos

01-22-2006, 11:06 PM

Scifos,
Why didn't you play these last three weeks? What were the reasons for not being able to call in or get in.

What does it matter?

Also, I'm still confused about the reasons why the 5% penalty exists at all.

IIC

01-22-2006, 11:21 PM

What does it matter?

Also, I'm still confused about the reasons why the 5% penalty exists at all.

Because Lye is the scorekeeper...and that's his rule...He asked for volunteers to take over the duties...Whoever volunteers can make up their own rules...Scifos...Did I see you raise your hand???

I'm just playin' w/ you...But in a way I am serious...Scorekeeping is not a walk in the park...I'll make the same offer here as I did to IBD to moderate their forums...$250k...And if you guys pay me you can email me all you want with your "Rules" suggestions...Doug(IIC)

SledDawg

01-22-2006, 11:26 PM

Man, all this controversy unnerves me....

I'll start the week taking CAL long. :-)

IIC

01-22-2006, 11:32 PM

Man, all this controversy unnerves me....

I'll start the week taking CAL long. :-)

You must have nerves of steel

skiracer

01-22-2006, 11:32 PM

What does it matter?

Also, I'm still confused about the reasons why the 5% penalty exists at all.

Well if you were incapacitated by being in the hospital, out of town due to a family death or illness, called away for armed service duty, or any number of situations where there was a really strong reason for missing the POTW for those weeks then you should be granted recourse for missing. But we all know the rules an Lye set them up and we have to live with them. But my own feelings would be that there are extenuating circumstances that would dictate excusing the rules. So that's why I asked. The penalty exists to keep people in the game, maintain the number of players every week so as to keep the final percentages on an even playing field by everyone playing the same number of weeks, etc.. Lye also included a cash position so that anyone could stay in cash for any period of time during the week without holding a stock just so that anyone would be considered as in that week but wouldn't have to actually be holding a position.
I was just curious as to the reason for not playing. Would it be fair for you to have your final % figured on 49 wks. an everyone else's on 52 wks. You know what I'm getting at. But if the reasons were strong enough then you should be exempted from the penalty for those two weeks but not otherwise.

Shadow

01-23-2006, 12:37 AM

AIRM long again for me

Thanks
Shadow

Lyehopper

01-23-2006, 12:55 AM

What does it matter?

Also, I'm still confused about the reasons why the 5% penalty exists at all.

Scifos.... why? Why? WHY? did you miss the POTW for three weeks?.... I must know details in order to make the call on abating the penality. After I've compiled all the facts I will talk the matter over with my trusted secret POTW board of directors.... Scifos.... I am a just and honorable man. But I need complete disclosure for your POTW file.

spikefader

01-23-2006, 01:36 AM

lol I love this thread.
1. billyjoe, prayers are with ya dude.
2. Runner, dude, if you don't play, I'll be forced to short ELN in protest. .
3. Peter Hansen, now there's a short that I think rocks (STEM).
4. The Vulcan's with 7 wins and No.1 all time! Congrats on an impressive feat dude.

Karel

01-23-2006, 03:08 AM

Karel, maybe we should open a new thread for "POTW, Rules Discussion" I have a few more things to add, if anyone is interested.
I think the best place to discuss the rules is over here. But before you start giving suggestions, ask yourself if they are real improvements, not just more to your liking, and whether they don't cost too much work. Because I am completely with Doug on this one. This is Lye's baby, he makes the rules. That doesn't place the rules above discussion, but they are not too bad as they are. The 5% penalty looks silly, but an "I am in cash" post is easy, and an "I am in cash/XYZ the next three weeks" is easy too. Lye even seems inclined to waive the rule when people miss the contest for idealistic reasons, like protesting the Florida gun laws, if I read correctly. <ducks and runs>

Regards,

Karel

Gary611

01-23-2006, 08:54 AM

Gary611

01-23-2006, 08:56 AM

Oh yeah, BTW, I don't mean to go off topic but my desktop crashed over the weekend & I need to get a motherboard, anyone know of a good reputable website to go to?

Thanks in advance,
Gary

billyjoe

01-23-2006, 09:09 AM

Gary,
Newegg.com

billyjoe

The Photon

01-23-2006, 09:17 AM

I will take GOOG with the open -

New-born baby

01-23-2006, 09:45 AM

Good Monday morning to all, I will stay with my position in RWC, (LONG!) my style is mostly to buy & hold, So let's hear it for style!

I bet you all knew right away, I had style! (rosy sunglasses!!???)

Gary,
You must be the original Curly. You have really, really got style like no other person :D My wife and I always get a chuckle out of your posts :D Thanks!

01-23-2006, 10:09 AM

Billy good luck to ya. Hurry back going to miss your posts your a very Important part of this forum.

Rob

01-23-2006, 10:29 AM

Awright, put me down for IMCL.

IIC

01-23-2006, 10:55 AM

Put me down for SUPX long

sowersnc

01-23-2006, 11:01 AM

I'll try UNH long

jiesen

01-23-2006, 11:27 AM

AMLN long for me!

01-23-2006, 11:45 AM

Glad to see you onboard Rob and good luck to you

Gary611

01-23-2006, 02:36 PM

Gary,
You must be the original Curly. You have really, really got style like no other person :D My wife and I always get a chuckle out of your posts :D Thanks!

Ah, shucks, you make me blush!! I just try to keep it light; the world is a serious place, we all need a bit of Curly now & then!!

BTW, After more troubleshooting, I am back online with my desktop. In case you were wondering, the motherboard was fine; the cd burner is bad. (It was keeping the system from booting up.) All is fine in stooge-dum!!

scifos

01-23-2006, 02:49 PM

Because Lye is the scorekeeper...and that's his rule...He asked for volunteers to take over the duties...Whoever volunteers can make up their own rules...Scifos...Did I see you raise your hand???

I'm just playin' w/ you...But in a way I am serious...Scorekeeping is not a walk in the park...I'll make the same offer here as I did to IBD to moderate their forums...$250k...And if you guys pay me you can email me all you want with your "Rules" suggestions...Doug(IIC)

So are you saying that the reason we have a 5% penalty is because Lye is the scorekeeper? I'd agree with that I suppose, but I wonder why the scorekeeper has that rule.

scifos

01-23-2006, 02:59 PM

Scifos.... why? Why? WHY? did you miss the POTW for three weeks?.... I must know details in order to make the call on abating the penality. After I've compiled all the facts I will talk the matter over with my trusted secret POTW board of directors.... Scifos.... I am a just and honorable man. But I need complete disclosure for your POTW file.

I'd like to know, if someone enters the contest in the middle of the year, will they be penalized 5% for the multitude of weeks they didn't play? Why assume I'd start to play at some point in 2006 and assess a penalty until I entered a pick?

I'll tell you right now, there's no way I'm going to be entering a pick each week, and when I'm not playing, I'm not going to waste my time posting "$Cash$" to the thread. And I won't complain if you penalize me for weeks I miss AFTER I ENTER THE CONTEST (except for the complaint that a cash position should be assumed, but IIC is right, rules are rules and no matter why the rule exists, it still does), but but penalizing me for weeks of the contest before I've even entered the contest isn't fair.

People want to know my reasons for not entering the contest on Jan 1. I'm intentionally not answering that because IT DOES NOT MATTER. The reasons why I shouldn't be penalized are good ones, and they don't rely on why I started late.

Websman

01-23-2006, 06:20 PM

It appears that everyones pick is going the wrong way. The winner may turn out to be the smallest loser. jejeje

scifos

01-23-2006, 06:36 PM

It appears that everyones pick is going the wrong way. The winner may turn out to be the smallest loser. jejeje

I banked 1.83% today on CVX.

Websman

01-23-2006, 06:46 PM

I banked 1.83% today on CVX.

The Vulcan is getting beaten by a bannana??? It just doesn't seem logical...

IIC

01-23-2006, 06:49 PM

So are you saying that the reason we have a 5% penalty is because Lye is the scorekeeper? I'd agree with that I suppose, but I wonder why the scorekeeper has that rule.

I guess I am saying that. Actually, LYE asked for a volunteer to take over the scorekeeping duties...I have no problem nominating you...And I'd be happy to abide by whatever rules you set up...Even if I don't like them.

I'm not tryin' to give you a hard time Scifos...But I think we are sort of wasting time on technicalities...It is not like there is a prize at stake or anything.

Now...In my pick of the year contest there are prizes...But since I'm providing the prizes...I made the rules.

Anyway, I think the contest is more for sharing ideas than winning...Best, Doug(IIC)

Websman

01-23-2006, 07:06 PM

I guess I am saying that. Actually, LYE asked for a volunteer to take over the scorekeeping duties...I have no problem nominating you...And I'd be happy to abide by whatever rules you set up...Even if I don't like them.

I'm not tryin' to give you a hard time Scifos...But I think we are sort of wasting time on technicalities...It is not like there is a prize at stake or anything.

Now...In my pick of the year contest there are prizes...But since I'm providing the prizes...I made the rules.

Anyway, I think the contest is more for sharing ideas than winning...Best, Doug(IIC)

Well said Doug. You hit the nail right smack on the head. My wins mean nothing if we don't all get something out of it.

skiracer

01-23-2006, 07:26 PM

Well said Doug. You hit the nail right smack on the head. My wins mean nothing if we don't all get something out of it.

None of it means anything if you don't own the stocks and you win or end up in the green for the week. No one gives any explanation or analysis of the why behind their plays so who is learning anything from any of it. It's a game an it's for fun, especially if you win. Personally I hate to win when I don't own the stock or even end up in the green if I don't own it. But it is fun and Lye has built it into something special with the friendly competition and the number of players.

IIC

01-23-2006, 07:37 PM

Well said Doug. You hit the nail right smack on the head. My wins mean nothing if we don't all get something out of it.

Great Webs...Just mail me my cut of the 7 winners you've had...Thanks, IIC

Websman

01-23-2006, 07:45 PM

Great Webs...Just mail me my cut of the 7 winners you've had...Thanks, IIC

I'll have Lye send you a check in the morning.

spikefader

01-24-2006, 12:16 AM

Oh yeah, BTW, I don't mean to go off topic but my desktop crashed over the weekend & I need to get a motherboard, anyone know of a good reputable website to go to?

Thanks in advance,
GaryGary, agree with billyjoe. www.Newegg.com is awesome (but pay for Fedex over the cheaper UPS). Next best is www.zipzoomfly.com (http://www.zipzoomfly.com). I've bought loads of PC stuff from both of em and they rock.

IIC

01-24-2006, 12:45 AM

Gary, agree with billyjoe. www.Newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com/) is awesome (but pay for Fedex over the cheaper UPS). Next best is www.zipzoomfly.com (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/). I've bought loads of PC stuff from both of em and they rock.

The way I figure it is that if your Motherboard goes...it is time to get a new computer...Doug

spikefader

01-24-2006, 01:19 AM

The way I figure it is that if your Motherboard goes...it is time to get a new computer...DougAnd miss the fun and satisfaction of re-building your own?!!
heh

IIC

01-24-2006, 01:45 AM

And miss the fun and satisfaction of re-building your own?!!
heh

Fun is Fun...And that's not my idea of Fun...thx anyway spike

Rob

01-24-2006, 10:15 AM

It appears that everyones pick is going the wrong way. The winner may turn out to be the smallest loser. jejeje

I should like to point out, with regard to the days of the week, that the trades of the many outweigh the trades of the few.

DSteckler

01-24-2006, 10:25 AM

Or the one.

spikefader

01-24-2006, 10:32 AM

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/867/littledog30eq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

SledDawg

01-24-2006, 12:08 PM

Sell CAL @ 18.92
Buy TUES @ 21.61

Lyehopper

01-24-2006, 12:37 PM

outta ca$h.... Short ESLR

Lyehopper

01-24-2006, 01:03 PM

....... Lye even seems inclined to waive the rule when people miss the contest for idealistic reasons, like protesting the Florida gun laws, if I read correctly. <ducks and runs>

Regards,

Karel

Hahahaaaa.... Funny Karel.... LOL.... You'd better "duck and run" DUDE!!!!

OK.... To all those who want an explanation of my fair and balanced rules.

I'll explain the 5% penality rule question the same way I explain unpopular rules to my 2 1/2 year old son.... "CAUSE I SAID SO BOY!!!!"

I'll bet Scifos is lookin at me kinda like "Lil Lyehopper" looks at me when I explain "the rules" to him.jejeje

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9947/lillye2qa.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Notice the cow manure in the background....lol

Lyehopper

01-24-2006, 01:50 PM

Hey Fellas.... You'll notice that I did not post the score for Monday.... Due to my busy schedule right now I will only be posting the scorecard for Wednesday's and Friday's.... By cutting back like this I may be able to continue keeping score.

I still offer the duties to anyone who would like to give it a shot. My goal however is to continue to improve and grow the contest so my employer BillyJoe will be pleased when he returns in a few weeks.... If I can average 25 players 4 weeks running I will have reached my 1st qtr participation quota.... Then I'll be bucking for a big raise when we have the 1st quarter POTW board meeting.

01-24-2006, 02:45 PM

Your the MAN Lye

Rob

01-24-2006, 04:18 PM

Due to my busy schedule right now I will only be posting the scorecard for Wednesday's and Friday's.

Yo, Jammer. What are you using to keep score, an Excel Spreadsheet? If you are, I could maybe whip you up some macros to streamline the process.

Lyehopper

01-24-2006, 04:50 PM

Yo, Jammer. What are you using to keep score, an Excel Spreadsheet? If you are, I could maybe whip you up some macros to streamline the process.

Rocker-Rob.... Your Avatar is HUUUUGE dude!!!!!!!lol

No I don't use Excel bud.... You know how computor-stupid I am.... I just use the V-V portfolio tracker, I modified the fields and enter (1) one share for each player (long or short) and just track the % ROE.... Then hit the "Prt Sc" button then paste and trim in MS Paint then manually add the players prior picks (if any) and cash positions (if any) then post the (MS Paint) image to imageshack.com.... Scroll back a few pages and you can see what one of my scorecards looks like.

That would be COOL if you could create a program for the POTW! You are the HUUUUUGEST computor dude I know! If Rocker-Rob can't do it.... It can't be done.

btw.... look at that lil IMCL feist scamper now....jejejeeeee "TICK"

Websman

01-24-2006, 05:10 PM

Lyehopper

01-24-2006, 05:40 PM

It looks like i may be the biggest loser this week...jejeje.

I must now go torture myself...or maybe drink a load of apple brandy....the pressure is too intense.

Oh well...as my great grandaddy, who was a Russian immigrant used to say... "Если Вы не можете бить их, борются с ними"
LOL.... I just ran your Granddaddy's saying thru the "BableFish translator" and here's what it said....

"if you cannot beat them, they fight with them".... Was your Grandpappy drinkin brandy too dude?....je....je....je

Websman

01-24-2006, 05:47 PM

LOL.... I just ran your Granddaddy's saying thru the "BableFish translator" and here's what it said....

"if you cannot beat them, they fight with them".... Was your Grandpappy drinkin brandy too dude?....je....je....je

He was a Russian immigrant. He spoke Russian...I however, do not.

Websman

01-24-2006, 06:47 PM

It looks like i may be the biggest loser this week...jejeje.

I must now go torture myself...or maybe drink a load of apple brandy....the pressure is too intense.

Oh well...as my great grandaddy, who was a Russian immigrant used to say... "Если Вы не можете бить их, борются с ними"

Did I say I would be the biggest loser? I was just kidding of course...

Although CAL has made a substantial gain over the past two days, the time has come to prove how superior my Vulcan stock picking skills are.
CAL will gain a little more until lunch time tomorrow before it takes a nosedive towards ultimate bankrupcty. Mark my words...the Vulcan knows the future.

Anyone care to question my inifinite wisdom???

scifos

01-24-2006, 06:58 PM

Yo, Jammer. What are you using to keep score, an Excel Spreadsheet? If you are, I could maybe whip you up some macros to streamline the process.

I have some excel macros to fetch O-H-L-C and Volume data from Yahoo Finance, but its all EOD, so it wouldn't be useful if people are moving in/out of stocks during the day. I'd also be a snap to calculate %returns and keep track of your points race, however you figure that up.

Lyehopper

01-24-2006, 07:17 PM

Did I say I would be the biggest loser? I was just kidding of course...

Although CAL has made a substantial gain over the past two days, the time has come to prove how superior my Vulcan stock picking skills are.
CAL will gain a little more until lunch time tomorrow before it takes a nosedive towards ultimate bankrupcty. Mark my words...the Vulcan knows the future.

Anyone care to question my inifinite wisdom???

My ultimate goal is to master the Vulcan methodology and thus understand the "wisdom" and become a true VulcanTrader.... As I continue as a student of the Vulcan I notice these underlying principles and personality traits that may help me in my quest.... One thing I find so remarkable about your Vulcan MO is how compassionate you are. You knew full well what CAL's price would do this week.... Yet rather than using the "ca$h" position provision and wait to enter CAL (short) at the peak TOMORROW.... You entered at the open yesterday..... KNOWING full well you would win by a lesser margin than you COULD have had you utilized the POTW (fair and balanced) rules to the full..... Incredable! You want to win.... YET you desire that the other players feel they actually have a chance. Please explain how this masked kindness fits into your plan of ultimate success Vulcan?

Rob

01-24-2006, 07:22 PM

Rocker-Rob.... Your Avatar is HUUUUGE dude!!!!!!!lolI know! The Hulk was my favorite comic when I was a kid! Anyway, that's the one I created when I first joined this board. Then after an extended absence I came back and discovered I had no avatar but that it was available as one of the choices on the User CP page. I also noticed some of the others' avatars in there too. So I just re-assumed that which I (and Marvel Comics) made in the first place.

No I don't use Excel bud.... You know how computor-stupid I am.... I just use the V-V portfolio tracker, I modified the fields and enter (1) one share for each player (long or short) and just track the % ROE.... Then hit the "Prt Sc" button then paste and trim in MS Paint then manually add the players prior picks (if any) and cash positions (if any) then post the (MS Paint) image to imageshack.com.... Scroll back a few pages and you can see what one of my scorecards looks like.Don't underestimate your abilities with the computer. Do you realize how few people there are who can even do what you just described?

I found one of your recent scorecards on the top of this page (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?t=655&page=336).

That would be COOL if you could create a program for the POTW! You are the HUUUUUGEST computor dude I know! If Rocker-Rob can't do it.... It can't be done.Well I don't know if I'd go that far, but I know a couple of tricks.

Anyhow, on that scorecard I noticed that you have two figures in some of the rows in the Gain/Share column, which obviously show a mid-week change, and it looks like those rows are ranked based on the combination of those figures. There's got to be an easier way to handle that. I will try to find some time to monkey around with it and see if I can automate some of the more tedious functions, although abundant free time is not a luxury I'm enjoying at the present time.

I have some excel macros to fetch O-H-L-C and Volume data from Yahoo Finance, but its all EOD, so it wouldn't be useful if people are moving in/out of stocks during the day. I'd also be a snap to calculate %returns and keep track of your points race, however you figure that up.Thanks Sci. I've got that stuff too. I was thinking I might be able to tailor something specific to the contest, something that would minimize the amount of figures that have to be manually plugged in—although as you point out some of them will have to be, i.e. mid-day changes, etc.

scifos

01-24-2006, 07:27 PM

Thanks Sci. I've got that stuff too. I was thinking I might be able to tailor something specific to the contest, something that would minimize the amount of figures that have to be manually plugged in—although as you point out some of them will have to be, i.e. mid-day changes, etc.

All I need are the ticker symbols and a start date and end date
(usually "=now()")

Websman

01-24-2006, 07:37 PM

My ultimate goal is to master the Vulcan methodology and thus understand the "wisdom" and become a true VulcanTrader.... As I continue as a student of the Vulcan I notice these underlying principles and personality traits that may help me in my quest.... One thing I find so remarkable about your Vulcan MO is how compassionate you are. You knew full well what CAL's price would do this week.... Yet rather than using the "ca$h" position provision and wait to enter CAL (short) at the peak TOMORROW.... You entered at the open yesterday..... KNOWING full well you would win by a lesser margin than you COULD have had you utilized the POTW (fair and balanced) rules to the full..... Incredable! You want to win.... YET you desire that the other players feel they actually have a chance. Please explain how this masked kindness fits into your plan of ultimate success Vulcan?

When you can snatch the pebble from my hand, ultimate wisdom and knowledge of the ancient Vulcans shall be revealed to you. Ahhh, yes Lyehopper you shall become one of us in due time.

skiracer

01-24-2006, 10:18 PM

When you can snatch the pebble from my hand, ultimate wisdom and knowledge of the ancient Vulcans shall be revealed to you. Ahhh, yes Lyehopper you shall become one of us in due time.

Ah yes, I can feel the energy synergyzing between Webs and Lyehopper. It won't be long before they Vulcanize into one Vulcanatic action and become the Superstock picker Webshopper. I just came back from a delicious linguine and fresh clams in white sauce dinner and two bottles of red wine. I am definitely seeing things in a clearer fashion now. It took two bottles this trip but I think I've finally got it right. Lye I can see you with those ears and they definitely look good on you. You are both the greatest.

Websman

01-24-2006, 10:35 PM

Ah yes, I can feel the energy synergyzing between Webs and Lyehopper. It won't be long before they Vulcanize into one Vulcanatic action and become the Superstock picker Webshopper. I just came back from a delicious linguine and fresh clams in white sauce dinner and two bottles of red wine. I am definitely seeing things in a clearer fashion now. It took two bottles this trip but I think I've finally got it right. Lye I can see you with those ears and they definitely look good on you. You are both the greatest.

We are.... aren't we?...je,je,je,je,je,je,je,je,je,je,je,je,je,je,.. .errr...je,je,je...

IIC

01-24-2006, 11:28 PM

Lyehopper

01-25-2006, 01:42 PM

Cover ESLR.... Buy PARL

New-born baby

01-25-2006, 01:56 PM

Taking VLO long here at $58.16

Websman

01-25-2006, 05:05 PM

Looks like you will owe me a dollar...Doug

Doug, I will not owe you a dollar. the reason I say this is because CAL is performing just as I expected and I will end up winning the POTW. I took CAL short on Monday, knowing that it would climb for the first couple of days, just to prove how superior my Vulcan stock picking skills are...just wait, you'll see. jej,je,je.

Watch for a dramatic drop in CAL tomorrow and Friday. It will be more than enough to offset my losses and propel me into another POTW win. My Vulcan critics will be shocked by my amazing victory. They will realize how superior I really am.

Live long and prosper... [TICK]

skiracer

01-25-2006, 05:16 PM

Doug, I will not owe you a dollar. the reason I say this is because CAL is performing just as I expected and I will end up winning the POTW. I took CAL short on Monday, knowing that it would climb for the first couple of days, just to prove how superior my Vulcan stock picking skills are...just wait, you'll see. jej,je,je.

Watch for a dramatic drop in CAL tomorrow and Friday. It will be more than enough to offset my losses and propel me into another POTW win. My Vulcan critics will be shocked by my amazing victory. They will realize how superior I really am.

Live long and prosper... [TICK]

Oil down $4.52 today. That's a big boost to the airlines.

Websman

01-25-2006, 05:19 PM

Oil down $4.52 today. That's a big boost to the airlines.

No concern here.... CAL will nosedive tomorrow.

skiracer

01-25-2006, 07:00 PM

Lye,
Sell ELN at market at open and short JCP at market at open.

IIC

01-25-2006, 07:10 PM

Websman

01-25-2006, 09:23 PM

We could always up the ante Webs...IIC

Ok, how about a dollar, plus a 16oz diet Coke?

Lyehopper

01-26-2006, 01:45 AM

MUSH!!!!.... look at that SledDawg run!!!! Don't look now fellas but a "newby" has the lead.... do-it Dawg!!!!

Lyehopper's in second.... As I train at the feet of the Vulcan I am determined to focus on the gold. ooooooommmmmmmmmmmm. (Webs told me to make that sound when I focus)

Photon has third.... wtg DUDE!!!!....

Shadow!!!! another newby (who owns a HUUUUGE dog the size of a horse) is in fourth with over 6%....

And Pete H. has a gain just north of 5% as he sits in 5th place....

WTG Fellas!!!!

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4137/potw123068ex.png (http://imageshack.us)

spikefader

01-26-2006, 04:12 AM

Thanks fer not sayin' nuthin Lye! lol

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/8711/fried1wr.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Lyehopper

01-26-2006, 10:19 AM

Thanks fer not sayin' nuthin Lye! lol

It ain't over till it's over.... Right spike? Looks like GM's on the skids this AM.

spikefader

01-26-2006, 10:36 AM

It ain't over till it's over.... Right spike? Looks like GM's on the skids this AM.Never a truer word bin sed. 2 days is an eternity :D

Lyehopper

01-26-2006, 12:45 PM

AIRM long again for me

Thanks
Shadow

This stock keeps popping up on searches I'm running. I take it you own it?.... I'm doing more dd.... Looks like a great company.... Plus I really like the group.... I'd love to see a retracement so I could build me a position.

Has anyone here looked carefully at this stock (AIRM)?

btw Shadow.... I wouldn't really eat your dog.... I love dogs, I've got a bunch of em.lol

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/7623/lyesdogs9jl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

DSteckler

01-26-2006, 12:46 PM

Too much free time today, eh? <VBG>

Lyehopper

01-26-2006, 12:49 PM

Too much free time today, eh? <VBG>

What do you think of AIRM Steckler?

SledDawg

01-26-2006, 01:02 PM

Well, I'm thrilled with the results so far, but I'm definitely not clearing a place on my mantle for the trophy yet. Plus, having shorted the bejeezus out of GM at 22.13 , I'm now rooting for Spike!

DSteckler

01-26-2006, 01:07 PM

<< What do you think of AIRM Steckler? >>

Extended, Hopper. With bearish divergences on some of the daily technical indicators.

Lyehopper

01-26-2006, 01:08 PM

Well, I'm thrilled with the results so far, but I'm definitely not clearing a place on my mantle for the trophy yet. Plus, having shorted the bejeezus out of GM at 22.13 , I'm now rooting for Spike!

you shorted GM @ 22.13....????.... When 2003?hehehe Must be a typo.... Right?

spikefader

01-26-2006, 01:10 PM

you shorted GM @ 22.13....????.... When 2003?hehehe Must be a typo.... Right?Surely he's talking about half an hour ago..

http://ichart.finance.yahoo.com/b?s=GM

Lyehopper

01-26-2006, 01:13 PM

Surely he's talking about half an hour ago..

http://ichart.finance.yahoo.com/b?s=GM
DUHHHHH!!!! I had a chart of GE up on my screen DUDE! Lye's brain DEAD!!!!

Lyehopper

01-26-2006, 01:19 PM

Spike.... That shorthorn in your signature is my kinda bull DUDE!!!!. I need to post a picture of my "powerdrive" simmental.

SledDawg

01-26-2006, 01:36 PM

Surely he's talking about half an hour ago..

http://ichart.finance.yahoo.com/b?s=GM

Nah, I'm not chasin it down today. I bought some Monday and more early Tues. Looks like I sold Kerkorian some of his 11M shares. Still holding a couple thousand shares that are temporarily going the wrong way on their road to ZERO!

Shadow

01-26-2006, 02:23 PM

<< What do you think of AIRM Steckler? >>

Extended, Hopper. With bearish divergences on some of the daily technical indicators.

Dave: Is that what you call it? Actually I was prepared for the sell
off today. Should have told you guys to short it! I had 2 stocks make
the lists yesterday; the most active and 52 week high. Everytime I hold
a stock that makes one of these lists I get a sharp sell off the next day.
Is it me or do these lists make good DT shorts? Hmmm

Lye: Yes, I've held AIRM since early Dec @ 15.15. Even with today's
sell off it's been a nice ride; up 31+%.

I'm glad you won't eat my dog! I haven't slept a wink since you
said that! ;)

BTW, cute dogs!

Shadow

Websman

01-26-2006, 05:18 PM

I've been watching AIRM, but am waiting for a pullback.

Shadow

01-26-2006, 07:05 PM

I've been watching AIRM, but am waiting for a pullback.

It was working on that today! The market beat me up
today but I survived to play another day.

scifos

01-26-2006, 08:05 PM

Lyehopper,

On market open:
Sell CVX - selling pre-earnings.
Buy PARS - hoping it'll get a boost from completion of phase 1 study of its drug.

Websman

01-26-2006, 08:09 PM

CAL will tank by at least $5 tomorrow...

DSteckler

01-26-2006, 08:19 PM

skiracer

01-26-2006, 08:21 PM

CAL will tank by at least $5 tomorrow...

Inevitably. Has to tomorrow is the last day of the week an if it doesn't and you don't win the sky will fall in and we'll all die. And then GM won't have to worry about any pensions. They might just pay CAL not to drop and the sky will fall. We're all doomed.

Websman

01-26-2006, 08:52 PM

Webs, this is the second day you predicted CAL would tank and so far, it has not. Are you using TA or FA to make this prediction and what are you looking at that brings you to your conclusion?

It does look like it's in trouble. It retraced 50% of the drop since the 1/6 - 1/9 tweezer top and the volume on the way back up has been around ADV, unlike the heavier volume on the way down. I also see that today's volume was the second heaviest of the week and today's price stalled at the 20-day EMA. A failure to get back above this EMA is bearish.

I'm using a top secret formula which is kept in an undisclosed location and is guarded by the Master Vulcan himself. I can only reveal these secrets to those who follow the rite of passage. Lyehopper is has achieved the third degree and has many levels to go.

CAL will fall and fall hard...

Websman

01-26-2006, 08:54 PM

Inevitably. Has to tomorrow is the last day of the week an if it doesn't and you don't win the sky will fall in and we'll all die. And then GM won't have to worry about any pensions. They might just pay CAL not to drop and the sky will fall. We're all doomed.

From the looks of it, Houston Texas is doomed. The New Orleans evacuees were given loads of government handouts and then relocated so they could destroy a whole city... Go figure.

Lyehopper

01-26-2006, 10:25 PM

I'm using a top secret formula which is kept in an undisclosed location and is guarded by the Master Vulcan himself. I can only reveal these secrets to those who follow the rite of passage. Lyehopper has achieved the third degree and has many levels to go.

oooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmm.......

Websman

01-26-2006, 10:40 PM

IIC

01-26-2006, 11:10 PM

Webs...CAL writes the most realistic business plans I've ever seen...Most buisness plans only consist of 10 chapters...But not CAL...They also include a Chapter 11...IIC

IIC

01-26-2006, 11:36 PM

I posted this on Steckler's thread, but I'll go ahead and repost it. This is for you guys that don't understand my methods.

I'm going to let you in on a little secret...

Most of you guys use either TA or FA. I however use VA.

What is VA? This is the purest and most simple form of analysis you could ever imagine. Ir's based on pure Vulcan logic. It is deceptively simple, yet so difficult for humans to master.

I don't know why all of you try to come up with all these fancy dancy TA and FA and VA plans to try to beat the market???

I have the simplest AND most effective trading plan:

"Buy stocks that are gonna go up...Sell stocks that are gonna go down"

Works every time...Doug(IIC)