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billyjoe
10-05-2006, 12:03 AM
My wife bought gas at Krogers for 1.97 , that's when I decided to short PEIX.
------------billyjoe
New-born baby
10-05-2006, 12:13 PM
Rob,
Take me out of AAPL please. :D
Rob please take me out of TASR PUT ME iN CA$H like currency.To much overhead.Taking Billy's advice and running with the money.
Rob please take me out of TASR PUT ME iN CA$H like currency.Ray, back to ©urren˘y is your only option on the sale of TASR, but let me say that that play certainly tased us with the full 50,000 volts!
Websman
10-05-2006, 05:13 PM
Oh look...DVSA has gone up again.
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/2682/ayv4.gif (http://imageshack.us)
jiesen
10-05-2006, 08:18 PM
Rob please take me out of TASR PUT ME iN CA$H like currency.To much overhead.Taking Billy's advice and running with the money.
wow, nice job on the TASR play, RL! it will be tough to top that!
Hey Doug back off what do you have against me?:rolleyes:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyehopper http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=65991#post65991)
No, But you sure gave it a good shot!....LOL!.... Hey Iceman, I'll betcha I'll beat you next week by 2% minimum.
OK...You're on...I'll bet you a buck...Iceman
OK...so where do I send your buck???
Gwhiz
10-06-2006, 05:25 PM
Billy Joe,
Shorted PEIX yesterday @ 13.52
Just wondering what your target is.
NB says there is no significant resistance till $7.
billyjoe
10-06-2006, 05:36 PM
Billy Joe,
Shorted PEIX yesterday @ 13.52
Just wondering what your target is.
NB says there is no significant resistance till $7.
Gwhiz,
I didn't set a target. Just don't see anything going for these guys for a long time. If it tanks again tomorrow, I'd sell before closing just to get the quick $$.
------------billyjoe
Okay! Everybody ... sing with me ... What a difference eight weeks make ...
"What are you talking about, Rob?" Well, since you asked ... eight weeks ago, the One Who Hops in Caustic Soda played Allion Healthcare (ALLI) and lost 53.92% on the week. This time around, the One Who Hops in Caustic Soda played the same stock and wound up with the gold and a bone-crushing 12.56%!!! Way to climb back up on that same bull that throwed ya, Caustic Soda Hopper!!!
Raymond the Beer-drinking Dart Thrower snags the silver with a spectacular 11.15%!!! As it turns out, Dart-thrower, you would have had 13.47% and the coveted gold had you held TASR, but I doubt any among us would fault you for ringing the register when you did. Way to go, Raymond the Beer-drinking Dart Thrower!!!
And finally, ladies and germs, would you believe it if I told you Billy bags the bronze? Way to short the energy sector, Billy!! And the little story behind your decision makes this play particularly cool! Far out, dude!
Incidentally, that cumulative 2.11% for the active players this week is the highest since we turned in a 3.94% in week 16! Good way to start the final quarter!!!
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Week 1 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=35533) | Week 2 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=36922) | Week 3 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=38102) | Week 4 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=39064) | Week 5 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=39993) | Week 6 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=41095) | Week 7 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=41818) | Week 8 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=42478) | Week 9 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=43559) | Week 10 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=44360)
Week 11 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=45264) | Week 12 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=45982) | Week 13 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=46754) | Week 14 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=47384) | Week 15 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=47882) | Week 16 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=48505) | Week 17 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=49376) | Week 18 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=50244) | Week 19 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=51466)
Week 20 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=52227) | Week 21 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=52972) | Week 22 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=53898) | Week 23 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=54783) | Week 24 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=55499) | Week 25 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=56212) | Week 26 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=57045) | Week 27 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=58001) | Week 28 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=58738)
Week 29 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=59207) | Week 30 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=59830) | Week 31 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=60536) | Week 32 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=61268) | Week 33 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=61925) | Week 34 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=62458) | Week 35 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=63300) | Week 36 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=63757) | Week 37 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=64514)
Week 38 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=65173) | Week 39 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=65966)
billyjoe
10-06-2006, 06:19 PM
Congratulations Ray, when the darts are sharp you're out of my league. Lye, I
either go short or long on what you pick and figure it's a 50% chance of making the big $$.
-----------billyjoe
ninner
10-06-2006, 06:24 PM
QSII next week!!
skiracer
10-06-2006, 06:51 PM
MED - long please Rob. Congratulations Lye, RL, and Billyjoe. At least I pulled up out of the basement. BTW who is the fellow at the bottom of the heap this week. That can't be the Ice Man. But wait, yes it is Doug. Oh my God how did that happen? My heart is beating so fast right now, I had better get my brown bag to breathe into. I'm going hyperV.
Websman
10-06-2006, 07:10 PM
MED - long please Rob. Congratulations Lye, RL, and Billyjoe. At least I pulled up out of the basement. BTW who is the fellow at the bottom of the heap this week. That can't be the Ice Man. But wait, yes it is Doug. Oh my God how did that happen? My heart is beating so fast right now, I had better get my brown bag to breathe into. I'm going hyperV.
BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! :eek:
Websman
10-06-2006, 07:14 PM
It looks like the latest adjustment to the VTP vectors has improved the success of the inner circle members. Lye is #1, I'm #4, and Peanuts is #7. All three with a profit for the week...
Congrats Lye on a victory for the VTP!
The VTP is destined to dominate the trading world...
skiracer
10-06-2006, 07:40 PM
It looks like the latest adjustment to the VTP vectors has improved the success of the inner circle members. Lye is #1, I'm #4, and Peanuts is #7. All three with a profit for the week...
Congrats Lye on a victory for the VTP!
The VTP is destined to dominate the trading world...
Did the Supreme Commander or any of the higher ranking officers own any of them buggers they played this week?
Just wanted to let everyone know my daughter Is now home from the hospital, she came home Thur. nite.She will be bed-ridden for at least 4 months.It truly was a miracle that she made It at all, her pelvic was so broken a- part that her organs were outside of her body. Don't know If I mentioned that she was pregnant but at this time the baby Is still viable--unbelivable. So thanks again for everyones concerns. It Is really funny but here we are sending messages back and forth to one another we don't really know each other and I actually feel as everyone of you are a close friend.GOD BLESS us all and just maybe we could meet some day:D:D:D
Websman
10-06-2006, 08:30 PM
Just wanted to let everyone know my daughter Is now home from the hospital, she came home Thur. nite.She will be bed-ridden for at least 4 months.It truly was a miracle that she made It at all, her pelvic was so broken a- part that her organs were outside of her body. Don't know If I mentioned that she was pregnant but at this time the baby Is still viable--unbelivable. So thanks again for everyones concerns. It Is really funny but here we are sending messages back and forth to one another we don't really know each other and I actually feel as everyone of you are a close friend.GOD BLESS us all and just maybe we could meet some day:D:D:D
We will meet eventually Ray! Glad to here that things are getting better. I guess prayers really do work! :)
skiracer
10-06-2006, 08:50 PM
Just wanted to let everyone know my daughter Is now home from the hospital, she came home Thur. nite.She will be bed-ridden for at least 4 months.It truly was a miracle that she made It at all, her pelvic was so broken a- part that her organs were outside of her body. Don't know If I mentioned that she was pregnant but at this time the baby Is still viable--unbelivable. So thanks again for everyones concerns. It Is really funny but here we are sending messages back and forth to one another we don't really know each other and I actually feel as everyone of you are a close friend.GOD BLESS us all and just maybe we could meet some day:D:D:D
I had a nice day today but that's without a doubt the best news I've heard all day. God bless her Ray.
Lyehopper
10-06-2006, 08:53 PM
Did the Supreme Commander or any of the higher ranking officers own any of them buggers they played this week?
I do own a nice position in ALLI.... I trimmed it after the crash.... Then I started buying again a few weeks ago.... I still like it and think it's gonna go to $20.
Thanks for the congrats guys!..... And Doug-E-Fresh, DUDE!.... YOU owe me a buck!.... I said I'd beat you by 2%.... BUT I was really thinkin' more like 17%....SsSsSssssss!
http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/images/icons/icon2.gif Rockin'Rob, start me off in ca$h next week please.... Oh! and another thing.... When breaking apart the word "lyehopper".... The term "hopper" here is referring to "a container" or storage device. Somewhere in this thread I tell the story of how "Lyehopper Hollow" got it's name. ;) But the mental image of me hopping around in "caustic soda" is kinda funny. jejeje :p
Lye that was a great win thought Doug was the one to catch me thought you were history but It's never over till that fat lady sings nice move Billy.Glad I was able to get back Into the contest:cool:
Best to your daughter and her baby Ray...Doug
Congrats to Lye, Ray and Billy. :D
I decided that I'd come in last so Ski wouldn't feel so bad about his pick...IIC :rolleyes:
skiracer
10-06-2006, 10:00 PM
Congrats to Lye, Ray and Billy. :D
I decided that I'd come in last so Ski wouldn't feel so bad about his pick...IIC :rolleyes:
You made my week there Doug. And to think that I beat you with that stinker that you like so much HSOA. I was feeling bad there for awhile but my old bud Doug pulled me right out of that funk.
Websman
10-06-2006, 10:45 PM
I'll take...
$$$CASH$$$
mimo_100
10-07-2006, 08:00 AM
Just wanted to let everyone know my daughter Is now home from the hospital, she came home Thur. nite.She will be bed-ridden for at least 4 months.It truly was a miracle that she made It at all, her pelvic was so broken a- part that her organs were outside of her body. Don't know If I mentioned that she was pregnant but at this time the baby Is still viable--unbelivable. So thanks again for everyones concerns. It Is really funny but here we are sending messages back and forth to one another we don't really know each other and I actually feel as everyone of you are a close friend.GOD BLESS us all and just maybe we could meet some day:D:D:D
Hello Ray,
There is so much bad news, it is so refreshing to hear that your daughter
received her miracle and is now home -- when is the baby due? It is so comforting to know that we all rest safely in the palm of our Father's hand. I have your daughter's name on my daily prayer list. Let her know that there are people praying for her full recovery. Have a great day.:)
tim
Tim, Thanks for your Inspiring message The baby Is due In April. I show her all of the responses she can not believe that strangers actually care so much It really Is helping her. Have a good day.
billyjoe
10-07-2006, 11:46 AM
Ray,
Take good care of them. 2007 will be a great year for your family.
-----------billyjoe
peanuts
10-07-2006, 12:12 PM
Tim, Thanks for your Inspiring message The baby Is due In April. I show her all of the responses she can not believe that strangers actually care so much It really Is helping her. Have a good day.
Ray,
Keep us updated on her recovery. Each time I hear about it, it makes the day even better, and any of my worries seem miniscule in comparison. I really hope the best for her and your family.
Mike
peanuts
10-07-2006, 12:16 PM
It looks like the latest adjustment to the VTP vectors has improved the success of the inner circle members. Lye is #1, I'm #4, and Peanuts is #7. All three with a profit for the week...
Congrats Lye on a victory for the VTP!
The VTP is destined to dominate the trading world...
Supreme Leader, I appologize for my poor showing this week- 7th place is not good enough for domination. Next week will be better. Shorting this market should prove viable, and I plan to use the Vulcan Death Grip technique on a stock of my choosing...
It was fun to own the stocks which I played in POTW... but, I doubt I will do this very often.
peanuts
10-07-2006, 12:24 PM
First of all, Congrats on the win, Lye. You are $$$HUUUUGE$$$
RL, billyjoe, nice showing. You guys are big!
Mr. Rob, I would like to begin the week with a short position in PCCC. Thank you very much and keep up the great work!
When breaking apart the word "lyehopper".... The term "hopper" here is referring to "a container" or storage device.Yes, I know. I first learned this use of the term in the summer of 1976 when I took a job as a sandblaster at a little shop in Van Nuys, CA. In those days we still used silica sand (now considered hazardous). When the hopper, that looked similar to this one ...
http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/41/un31dd6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
... (but without those external attachments), became empty, I would have to shovel all the sand off the floor back into the hopper and go through it again. It was easily the dirtiest job I ever had.
diogenes
10-07-2006, 05:56 PM
Neutral start in cash$$$
Peter Hansen
10-07-2006, 09:29 PM
CHTR Long Thank You
New-born baby
10-07-2006, 09:30 PM
Just wanted to let everyone know my daughter Is now home from the hospital, she came home Thur. nite.She will be bed-ridden for at least 4 months.It truly was a miracle that she made It at all, her pelvic was so broken a- part that her organs were outside of her body. Don't know If I mentioned that she was pregnant but at this time the baby Is still viable--unbelivable. So thanks again for everyones concerns. It Is really funny but here we are sending messages back and forth to one another we don't really know each other and I actually feel as everyone of you are a close friend.GOD BLESS us all and just maybe we could meet some day:D:D:D
Huge congrats to you and yours; praise to God for the answered prayers for your daughter. What an incredible story.
New-born baby
10-07-2006, 09:31 PM
Rob,
It's ca$$$$$h money for me, please. :D And congrats to the top three. Really, congrats to all those in the black this week.
NB It Is realy Increible and I told you a little more than the rest for fear they would not belive and think I was a nut case. Hope you could use this at your church one day.Thanks for your prayers.:):):)
dmk112
10-08-2006, 01:28 PM
DXPE long for me. Thanks Rob. Keep up the good work!
Rob: Please start me out in Ca$h
Lye: PM or email me your addy so I can send you that buck
Ray: Hope the baby is born on April 9th...That's my B-Day. My son was born on April 8, 1980. My ex-wife(She was my wife at the time) went into labor and her sister took her to the hospital at 7pm that day...I got there about 7:30pm...I told a nurse to keep him in till after midnight...She said he'd be born by 11pm...pretty good estimate...he was born at 10:35pm
Funny though...we both had due dates of April 19th...I was 10 days early and he was 11.
Best, Doug(IIC)
New-born baby
10-08-2006, 05:09 PM
NB It Is realy Increible and I told you a little more than the rest for fear they would not belive and think I was a nut case. Hope you could use this at your church one day.Thanks for your prayers.:):):)
Ray,
I had the whole church praying for you and yours. I told them the story at that time. I will tell them more this coming Tuesday night prayer service. God bless all the Longs. :D
skiracer
10-08-2006, 05:44 PM
Ray,
I had the whole church praying for you and yours. I told them the story at that time. I will tell them more this coming Tuesday night prayer service. God bless all the Longs. :D
Well in that case I'm going nothing but long this week. Thanks NB.
Gary611
10-08-2006, 05:50 PM
FUL long, I am on a bender after the Yankee loss.:cool:
--Gary
skiracer
10-08-2006, 05:57 PM
FUL long, I am on a bender after the Yankee loss.:cool:
--Gary
Me to. Embarrassing huh.
ParkTwain
10-08-2006, 07:44 PM
Thanks Rob!
Dumb question Is the market open tomorrow?:confused::confused::confused:
Gary611
10-08-2006, 08:27 PM
Me to. Embarrassing huh.
I need more booze, 'cause I'm a J-E-T-S fan too, NYUK, NYUK!!!
Dumb question Is the market open tomorrow?:confused::confused::confused:
Yeah...But you won't be gettin' any mail:
http://www.nyse.com/Frameset.html?nyseref=&displayPage=/about/1022963613686.html
New-born baby
10-08-2006, 09:26 PM
Well in that case I'm going nothing but long this week. Thanks NB.
Ski,
Anything for a friend :D
New-born baby
10-08-2006, 09:28 PM
Yeah...But you won't be gettin' any mail:
http://www.nyse.com/Frameset.html?nyseref=&displayPage=/about/1022963613686.html
That's because Christmas starts in the Post Office the day after Columbus Day. HUGE volumes of mail come in.
jiesen
10-08-2006, 09:56 PM
Rob, please put me in AMLN long.:D
jiesen
10-08-2006, 10:10 PM
Just wanted to let everyone know my daughter Is now home from the hospital, she came home Thur. nite.She will be bed-ridden for at least 4 months.It truly was a miracle that she made It at all, her pelvic was so broken a- part that her organs were outside of her body. Don't know If I mentioned that she was pregnant but at this time the baby Is still viable--unbelivable. So thanks again for everyones concerns. It Is really funny but here we are sending messages back and forth to one another we don't really know each other and I actually feel as everyone of you are a close friend.GOD BLESS us all and just maybe we could meet some day:D:D:D
RL,
Im so glad your daughter and her baby have pulled through ok. This is great news, and I wish her a speedy recovery in the coming months!
JohnHenry
10-09-2006, 02:57 AM
Hey congratulations Lye, Rl, and BillyJoe.
Rob
Xing long please, thanks
Karel
10-09-2006, 05:48 AM
Well, congratulations Ray, and my prayers for a continued recovery. It really sounds miraculous and is a reason for gratitude, towards Heaven and towards the doctors.
And of course congrats to Lye, again Ray and Billyjoe, for a great performance!
PCCC is still top of the screen, so I'll try it again this week. Perhaps this time it opens below Fridays close!
Regards,
Karel
grebnet
10-09-2006, 07:36 AM
Try one more week....PWEI
I've got a busy week ahead, including a funeral today for one of my aunts, and I haven't even had time to do any stock research this weekend.
I'm a little worried about how the market might react to N. Korea's little nuclear experiment. I have a feeling it's going to be a down day today.
Nevertheless, I'm still going to take http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/images/icons/icon2.gifhttp://www.mrmarketishuge.com/images/icons/icon2.gifhttp://www.mrmarketishuge.com/images/icons/icon2.gifGOOG long, and Quasi-Ernie is going to go with http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/images/icons/icon2.gifhttp://www.mrmarketishuge.com/images/icons/icon2.gifhttp://www.mrmarketishuge.com/images/icons/icon2.gifMFLX long again.
Rob I'm with you think the market will be down, It Is only 6:30 am and I'm out of here but will you put me In TRT - LONG thanks and hope everyone has a great week:D:D:D
eliaskane
10-09-2006, 08:52 AM
Hmmm, this takes a bit of skill... HSR long, please.
New-born baby
10-09-2006, 08:56 AM
Robert:
Short the dog down: CLK.
Many thanks :D
The Photon
10-09-2006, 09:18 AM
Short CAKE -
. . . put me In TRT - LONG . . .Ray, I got to tell you, this pick looks really nice! Microcap, great rev. growth, super low P/E, and even pays a dividend! Then, as I was checking it out, I discovered their address is less than two miles from my last residence in California. Small world.
spikefader
10-09-2006, 10:27 AM
Congrats for last week, Lye. Very nice result.
RL and BillyJoe, pretty to watch.
That's surely a miracle, RL. Prayers for a speedy recovery.
spikefader
10-09-2006, 10:27 AM
DCI long for me thanks.
mimo_100
10-09-2006, 10:49 AM
Buy CLRK
Thanks Rob, and thanks also for all the work you do on the POTW.:)
Tim
Gatorman
10-09-2006, 11:29 AM
Will take CSCO long.
New-born baby
10-09-2006, 11:36 AM
Buy CLRK
Thanks Rob, and thanks also for all the work you do on the POTW.:)
Tim
Best wishes with it, Mimo :D
New-born baby
10-09-2006, 11:40 AM
Rob,
Cover my CLK short, please. And thank you :D
Lyehopper
10-09-2006, 11:57 AM
http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/images/icons/icon2.gif I'll short some steel today Rockin'Rob.... X (short)
Yo Iceman?.... Double or nothin' this week?
billyjoe
10-09-2006, 12:02 PM
Rob,
$ash to start. Too bad for me you took GOOG.
---------------billyjoe
mimo_100
10-09-2006, 12:15 PM
Best wishes with it, Mimo :D
Thanks.
Do you know something about CLRK that I don't?:)
Tim
New-born baby
10-09-2006, 12:43 PM
Thanks.
Do you know something about CLRK that I don't?:)
Tim
Only what the chart says. Very bearish shortterm; $10.80 significant support. I just covered because I wanted to short something else pretty quick here.
diogenes
10-09-2006, 12:47 PM
From ca$h to long cy.
mimo_100
10-09-2006, 12:50 PM
Only what the chart says. Very bearish shortterm; $10.80 significant support. I just covered because I wanted to short something else pretty quick here.
I bot C-L-R-K --- what are you wrting about?
Gwhiz
10-09-2006, 03:45 PM
Billy Joe:
Is it correction time for peix or are we in for another nice round of decline following todays big day?
Personally I think we may be in for an upward correction.
Quote:
Originally Posted by New-born baby http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=66981#post66981)
Only what the chart says. Very bearish shortterm; $10.80 significant support. I just covered because I wanted to short something else pretty quick here.
I bot C-L-R-K --- what are you wrting about?
Seems like a little mix-up here...NBB is talking about CLK and Mimo is talking about CLRK...IIC
billyjoe
10-09-2006, 04:11 PM
Billy Joe:
Is it correction time for peix or are we in for another nice round of decline following todays big day?
Personally I think we may be in for an upward correction.
Gwhiz,
PEIX goes down when oil goes down and vice versa , but this increase seems to be way over the top. I'll bet there's a nice correction coming. Oil is not bullish as far as I can tell.
-------------billyjoe
billyjoe
10-09-2006, 04:15 PM
Rob,
Short PEIX quickly !!
----------billyjoe
Gwhiz
10-09-2006, 05:21 PM
Not sure oil is the only thing to be looking at here Billy Joe, They just opened their new plant.
Won't that have a postive effect on the stock price, or maybe stabilize it a little anyway?
billyjoe
10-09-2006, 05:57 PM
Not sure oil is the only thing to be looking at here Billy Joe, They just opened their new plant.
Won't that have a postive effect on the stock price, or maybe stabilize it a little anyway?
Gwhiz,
If there is no demand they've just put themselves in deeper debt with no returns.
--------------billyjoe
Citizen Kane, Mimo, and Van McCoy are setting the pace.
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5088/aqe1.gif (http://imageshack.us)
Lyehopper
10-09-2006, 10:48 PM
Yes, I know. I first learned this use of the term in the summer of 1976 when I took a job as a sandblaster at a little shop in Van Nuys, CA. In those days we still used silica sand (now considered hazardous). When the hopper, that looked similar to this one ...
http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/41/un31dd6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
... (but without those external attachments), became empty, I would have to shovel all the sand off the floor back into the hopper and go through it again. It was easily the dirtiest job I ever had.
Hey Rockin'Rob!.... Nice "machine" dude!.... Mine looks kinda like that except it's a little different shade of red....
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/2016/hopperpw4.png (http://imageshack.us)
skiracer
10-09-2006, 10:59 PM
Hey Rockin'Rob!.... Nice "machine" dude!.... Mine looks kinda like that except it's a little different shade of red....
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/2016/hopperpw4.png (http://imageshack.us)
Gojiramma!!!! Which I haven't seen any of in many many moons.
Lyehopper
10-09-2006, 11:06 PM
Gojiramma!!!! Which I haven't seen any of in many many moons.
Patience my son.... "Tis the Season"....
skiracer
10-09-2006, 11:21 PM
Patience my son.... "Tis the Season"....
That's a beautiful piece of equipment.
peanuts
10-10-2006, 12:33 PM
Please cover PCCC, and short SWHC
Thanks
Just caught your post on Biriny's dart board--- guess I'll market mine. can you belive $89.95 you gotta be kidding me. Who needs to make money on stocks.:cool::cool::cool:
jiesen
10-10-2006, 10:46 PM
way to go with the XING pick, buddy! what gave you the idea to go with that one? I have a sell order in for half of mine at about 17 now. Wonder what's going on with it... they are late with the 1H results for 2006, but someone must be loving the stock now, it sure is on fire!
JohnHenry
10-11-2006, 02:43 AM
way to go with the XING pick, buddy! what gave you the idea to go with that one? I have a sell order in for half of mine at about 17 now. Wonder what's going on with it... they are late with the 1H results for 2006, but someone must be loving the stock now, it sure is on fire!
Yeah Thanks! Jiesen. I don’t like or know much about the tech. sector but for this stock I like it because they make MP3 players and telephones. I also love that their earning rocketed to 800% and sale of 46% each for four quarters. Those are the numbers I like to see and also up in volume.
What was your entry price? If I had money I would purchased it sometime the first two weeks of September somewhere between $10 and $11.
I don’t have a clue of who loves this stock but I like to see it $18.
Oh hey dude, also if I had money or may be for next week for POTW. I like JRT…who doesn’t like earnings from 58% to 2600% and revenue by 77% to 854% for the past four quarters. It pays 9% dividend yield, who doesn’t like dividends?
Hey is Rob sick or busy? I didn’t see scores for today’s POTW? Thanks
Sorry it's later than usual, but ... better late than never.
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3458/ady5.gif (http://imageshack.us)
:cramersmiley: :cramersmiley: :cool:
Edit @ 9:23 a.m.: I just noticed that, for some reason, Karel's score did not show up on the score card. Sorry, Karel. I think I know what might have happened, and I'll try to prevent it in the future.
Lyehopper
10-11-2006, 10:08 AM
Yeah Thanks! Jiesen. I don’t like or know much about the tech. sector but for this stock I like it because they make MP3 players and telephones. I also love that their earning rocketed to 800% and sale of 46% each for four quarters. Those are the numbers I like to see and also up in volume.
What was your entry price? If I had money I would purchased it sometime the first two weeks of September somewhere between $10 and $11.
I don’t have a clue of who loves this stock but I like to see it $18.
Oh hey dude, also if I had money or may be for next week for POTW. I like JRT…who doesn’t like earnings from 58% to 2600% and revenue by 77% to 854% for the past four quarters. It pays 9% dividend yield, who doesn’t like dividends?
Hey is Rob sick or busy? I didn’t see scores for today’s POTW? Thanks
Hey STKY.... If you ever need employement, call me.
Lyehopper
10-11-2006, 11:49 AM
http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/images/icons/icon2.gif Cover X.... Short NRPH....
spikefader
10-11-2006, 01:45 PM
Sticky,
You're HUGE! :D
Lyehopper
10-11-2006, 01:47 PM
http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/images/icons/icon2.gif Cover X.... Short NRPH....
In real life I'm covering my NRPH short for a small profit.... This stock really scares me because I've been bitten in the butt before shorting it.
HOWEVER.... I'll hold my short position in the POTW just for the fun of it. ;)
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/1600/amv3.gif (http://imageshack.us)
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/7310/cramersmiley4hc.gif (http://imageshack.us)http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/7310/cramersmiley4hc.gif (http://imageshack.us)http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/7310/cramersmiley4hc.gif (http://imageshack.us)
Gwhiz
10-11-2006, 07:26 PM
Billy Joe,
Shorted another block of peix @ 15.34
just thought i'd let you know,
G whiz
skiracer
10-11-2006, 07:42 PM
Billy Joe,
Shorted another block of peix @ 15.34
just thought i'd let you know,
G whiz
That would be a nice play. What time did you get make that short play at. How many shares do you consider a block.
Gwhiz
10-11-2006, 08:07 PM
I put the order in around 10:30 but it says it made the trade @ 10:48.
600 shares is a block just because my first short was 600 shares
Virtualstockexchange.com is the site that we use for the contest and it doesn't process very quickly. A few days ago, a friend in the same contest placed a buy order for PEIX when it was up 1 % and by the time the order processed PEIX was already up 9 %.
billyjoe
10-11-2006, 08:19 PM
Gwhiz,
IOC is another great short candidate. Read about it at stocklemon.com. It's not a question of if, but when it will tank.
-------------billyjoe
p.s. just went to interactive brokers they say PEIX and IOC are not shortable
billyjoe
10-11-2006, 08:28 PM
Rob,
My bad ? Interactive brokers says due to federal regulations PEIX is not shortable , but Gwhiz says he just shorted some. Does this wipe out my 3rd place finish last week and my next to last place in this week's contest ? I will abide by your ruling.
--------------billyjoe
Gwhiz
10-11-2006, 09:02 PM
why would federal regulations prohibit shorting peix?
I shorted it in a stock market contest on virtualstockexchange.com, so its possible that they let me short it even though with real money you can't short it.
skiracer
10-11-2006, 09:27 PM
I put the order in around 10:30 but it says it made the trade @ 10:48.
600 shares is a block just because my first short was 600 shares
Virtualstockexchange.com is the site that we use for the contest and it doesn't process very quickly. A few days ago, a friend in the same contest placed a buy order for PEIX when it was up 1 % and by the time the order processed PEIX was already up 9 %.
So you didn't actually buy it for real. Nice way to figure a block of shares. I don't think the stock is shortable so you couldn't have done it with real cash and at 10:30 am PEIX was just at that price range and you might not have gotten it even if it was shortable. Not all stocks are shortable. You really have to check first to see that it is shortable. When dealing with real money that would have been the first thing your brokerage would have told you.
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1191/peixmz1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Gwhiz
10-11-2006, 10:05 PM
I've said before that I was shorting peix with fake $$$.
Honestly I don't know what a block of shares is, I just used the term to say that it was in equal amount to the first. From what you just said it sounds like a block must be some amount determined by the size of the portfolio and the risk or something, but I did not know that.
I realize that maybe because I am not dealing with real money on this stock I should stop posting my moves.
Are you implying that I lied about where I shorted?
I posted exactly what my transaction history says. All I can is that because VSE is not a real broker the trading may be slightly weird.
skiracer
10-11-2006, 10:22 PM
I've said before that I was shorting peix with fake $$$.
Honestly I don't know what a block of shares is, I just used the term to say that it was in equal amount to the first. From what you just said it sounds like a block must be some amount determined by the size of the portfolio and the risk or something, but I did not know that.
I realize that maybe because I am not dealing with real money on this stock I should stop posting my moves.
Are you implying that I lied about where I shorted?
I posted exactly what my transaction history says. All I can is that because VSE is not a real broker the trading may be slightly weird.
No I wasn't implying that you lied or that you should stop posting your moves. You just learned something about trading that was probably new to you. It's a continuing learning experience with all of this. I also didn't read where you stated that you were doing a paper trade. A block is usually 10000 shares but it can be whatever you want it to be to yourself when your doing what your doing. When it's for real, real people trading real money see it in a different light. Usually the way that it really is. That is why I questioned your post. No big deal.
Lyehopper
10-11-2006, 10:28 PM
I don't think the stock is shortable so you couldn't have done it with real cash and at 10:30 am PEIX was just at that price range and you might not have gotten it even if it was shortable. Not all stocks are shortable. You really have to check first to see that it is shortable. When dealing with real money that would have been the first thing your brokerage would have told you.
PEIX is shortable (I think).... There are currently just no shares available to short. When the demand is high to borrow shares sometimes they just simply run out. I was trying to short PARL once and TD Ameritrade kept saying "no shares of this security are currently available to short" (that's what it's saying about PEIX too) so I kept trying and eventially I lowered the amount of shares I was shorting to 200 (market order).... I'll bet I tried twenty times and finally the transaction went through. I'll betcha that's the case with PEIX..
Lyehopper
10-11-2006, 11:11 PM
IB's (not shortable) list does NOT mean a stock can't be shorted, just that there are no shares (in current inventory) available to borrow by IB at this particular time.... I shorted NRPH today and now Ameritrade says there aren't any shares of NRPH available. I'll bet you I'll be able to short it tomorrow if I try hard enough, now maybe I can't get 100k shares.... but I'm pretty sure I can get 1k.... http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/images/icons/icon14.gif
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4712/ibdx1.png (http://imageshack.us)
A block is 10,000 or more shares...Doug(IIC)
New-born baby
10-12-2006, 12:23 AM
Rob,
SHORT AMLN for me please :D
BillyJoe, Lyehopper, et al,
Regulation SHO is, at best, quite difficult to understand. After hunting around on the Internet and reading several attempts at clarifying the regulation, I've only gained a little comprehension of it. Apparently the list of stocks appearing on the Reg SHO list can change on a daily basis and may vary from one broker/dealer to another.
Here are a couple of sites I found interesting or helpful:
Division of Market Regulation: Responses to Frequently Asked Questions Concerning Regulation SHO (http://www.sec.gov/divisions/marketreg/mrfaqregsho1204.htm) (see especially the example in Question 5.8), which was linked from the NASDAQ Reg SHO Security List (http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/aspx/regsho.aspx), which, in turn, was linked from a blog site called Penny Stocks (http://pennymarkets.com/), where the person who wrote the article entitled "The Short Squeeze," dated 10/7/06, evidently did quite a lot of personal research on it.
According to Yahoo's Key Stats page on PEIX (http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=PEIX), 22% of the float is shorted, so someone out there is shorting the stuffing out of it.
In view of all that, I'm going to let your PEIX short ride, BillyJoe.
This question about shorting and determining whether shares are actually shortable continues to frustrate me. I'd really like to just do away with shorting altogether for this contest, but mutiny would probably ensue. Speaking of the rules, there should be a rule to dock by 5% the score of any participant who posts a graphic image in excess of 700 pixels in width to this thread. Hmm.
jiesen
10-12-2006, 01:28 AM
Yeah Thanks! Jiesen. I don’t like or know much about the tech. sector but for this stock I like it because they make MP3 players and telephones. I also love that their earning rocketed to 800% and sale of 46% each for four quarters. Those are the numbers I like to see and also up in volume.
What was your entry price? If I had money I would purchased it sometime the first two weeks of September somewhere between $10 and $11.
I don’t have a clue of who loves this stock but I like to see it $18.
Hmm, where to start with this one...
Well, Ive been following XING ever since the day I noticed it jump from $7 to $70 in one day. I first bought in around $3 after the long slide from $70, and watched it continue to fall to around $0.75, then recover again to about $15 a few times before it fell again to $6 last year, where I finally gave in and sold most of my position. Unfortunately, I had made lots of trades along the way in and out of this guy, so even though I should have had a nice double out of this if I had just invested, rather than traded, (or more if I had just sold at $12 or $14 when I had the chance) I made no money. Actually, the amount I came out down on these trades is rougly equivalent to the commission on the hundreds (literally) of trades I made.
I take it more as a lesson learned in trading/investing than anything else. Anyway, I'm done trading on XING news, and if I can get out at $17-18 on the shares I have left, I'll have come out a bit ahead in the end. Its easy to say now, but I really should have just bought those $3 shares and left it alone... at any rate, to answer your question, the shares I have are split equally in two accounts, one position was bought at $5 about 4 years ago and never traded again. The other position was bought around $8, but with the rest of the trading I did, the cost basis is well above $10.
I also learned a fairly expensive lesson by trading XING options, and reviewing my trades at tax time. Ill share my findings with you for free: steer clear of options until you *really* know what youre doing.
skiracer
10-12-2006, 07:59 AM
BillyJoe, Lyehopper, et al,
Regulation SHO is, at best, quite difficult to understand. After hunting around on the Internet and reading several attempts at clarifying the regulation, I've only gained a little comprehension of it. Apparently the list of stocks appearing on the Reg SHO list can change on a daily basis and may vary from one broker/dealer to another.
Here are a couple of sites I found interesting or helpful:
Division of Market Regulation: Responses to Frequently Asked Questions Concerning Regulation SHO (http://www.sec.gov/divisions/marketreg/mrfaqregsho1204.htm) (see especially the example in Question 5.8), which was linked from the NASDAQ Reg SHO Security List (http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/aspx/regsho.aspx), which, in turn, was linked from a blog site called Penny Stocks (http://pennymarkets.com/), where the person who wrote the article entitled "The Short Squeeze," dated 10/7/06, evidently did quite a lot of personal research on it.
According to Yahoo's Key Stats page on PEIX (http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=PEIX), 22% of the float is shorted, so someone out there is shorting the stuffing out of it.
In view of all that, I'm going to let your PEIX short ride, BillyJoe.
This question about shorting and determining whether shares are actually shortable continues to frustrate me. I'd really like to just do away with shorting altogether for this contest, but mutiny would probably ensue. Speaking of the rules, there should be a rule to dock by 5% the score of any participant who posts a graphic image in excess of 700 pixels in width to this thread. Hmm.
Rob,
Just curious. Was that last chart I posted on the previous page to large. NB and mine were about the same width. I've been keeping them much smaller and thought I was within your parameters.
mimo_100
10-12-2006, 08:45 AM
BillyJoe, Lyehopper, et al,
Regulation SHO is, at best, quite difficult to understand. After hunting around on the Internet and reading several attempts at clarifying the regulation, I've only gained a little comprehension of it. Apparently the list of stocks appearing on the Reg SHO list can change on a daily basis and may vary from one broker/dealer to another.
Here are a couple of sites I found interesting or helpful:
Division of Market Regulation: Responses to Frequently Asked Questions Concerning Regulation SHO (http://www.sec.gov/divisions/marketreg/mrfaqregsho1204.htm) (see especially the example in Question 5.8), which was linked from the NASDAQ Reg SHO Security List (http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/aspx/regsho.aspx), which, in turn, was linked from a blog site called Penny Stocks (http://pennymarkets.com/), where the person who wrote the article entitled "The Short Squeeze," dated 10/7/06, evidently did quite a lot of personal research on it.
According to Yahoo's Key Stats page on PEIX (http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=PEIX), 22% of the float is shorted, so someone out there is shorting the stuffing out of it.
In view of all that, I'm going to let your PEIX short ride, BillyJoe.
This question about shorting and determining whether shares are actually shortable continues to frustrate me. I'd really like to just do away with shorting altogether for this contest, but mutiny would probably ensue. Speaking of the rules, there should be a rule to dock by 5% the score of any participant who posts a graphic image in excess of 700 pixels in width to this thread. Hmm.
Here is my take on Reg SHO.
The regulation was created “ostensibly” because of the many abuses and liberties that brokerage firms were taking as far as short sales. I remember one stock with around 40 million shares outstanding. 20 million shares were in the hands of the owners, and at one time there were 27 million short. How can that be? Well, the firms were shorting without ever borrowing the shares. Reg SHO was supposed to identify these stocks and stop the shorting of phantom shares.
Things haven’t changed. The regulation was put in to make it appear like something was being done, when in reality the “phantom” shorting continues on today. Think of the recent UN directive to N. Korea “there will be consequences if you test a nuclear bomb”. What has happened? Nothing What will happen? Nothing, in my opinion.
Will somebody check this out and let me know If It's for real.Free stock trades ZECCO.COM:confused::confused::confused:
Rob,
Just curious. Was that last chart I posted on the previous page to large. NB and mine were about the same width. I've been keeping them much smaller and thought I was within your parameters.Ski, for you and anyone else (using MS Windows) who may not know this ...
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3259/ack2.png (http://imageshack.us)
I don't know which graphics program you use to create the pictures, but I've never seen one that doesn't tell the user what the dimenions are. In MSPaint, for example, you find out the dimensions by selecting the menu item "Image," then "Attributes" from the popup menu. In Paintshop, which is the one I use, the dimensions are always displayed on the right side of the status bar.
If you save a Stockcharts.com image to your computer by right-clicking the image and using "Save Picture As... ," it's very simple to first make sure the chart size is set to 620 in width from the little "Size" drop-down they provide.
Ski, for you and anyone else (using MS Windows) who may not know this ...
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3259/ack2.png (http://imageshack.us)
I don't know which graphics program you use to create the pictures, but I've never seen one that doesn't tell the user what the dimenions are. In MSPaint, for example, you find out the dimensions by selecting the menu item "Image," then "Attributes" from the popup menu. In Paintshop, which is the one I use, the dimensions are always displayed on the right side of the status bar.
If you save a Stockcharts.com image to your computer by right-clicking the image and using "Save Picture As... ," it's very simple to first make sure the chart size is set to 620 in width from the little "Size" drop-down they provide.
I thought we were OK as long as it is under 700???
I thought we were OK as long as it is under 700???In what bizarro world is 739 under 700?
In what bizarro world is 739 under 700?
You mentioned this???:
If you save a Stockcharts.com image to your computer by right-clicking the image and using "Save Picture As... ," it's very simple to first make sure the chart size is set to 620 in width from the little "Size" drop-down they provide.
You mentioned this???:
If you save a Stockcharts.com image to your computer by right-clicking the image and using "Save Picture As... ," it's very simple to first make sure the chart size is set to 620 in width from the little "Size" drop-down they provide.
It was a Jedi mind trick, a subliminal suggestion. I know that Stockcharts also has a 700px width option, but the problem with that is that if somebody posts a 700px-wide image and then someone else includes it in a quote, the margins in the quote will expand the post column anyway.
90% of the time I use this forum, I use a 6-year-old laptop computer with a 1024x768 display. I keep the browser window smaller so I can have several live charts in the background. Excessively wide graphics cause all the text on the same page to bleed off the edge of my browser display, which is irritating. Note that it is not I who instituted the recommendation of the 700px limit, but our beloved moderator. I just try to remind people every now and then, especially certain scofflaws, the most prominent of which whose name I don't want to mention, but it sort of rhymes with "eraser." :)
Lyehopper
10-12-2006, 12:23 PM
In what bizarro world is 739 under 700?
SsSsSssssss! :p
What the ###$%$&&&*&&&## happened:confused::confused::confused::confused:
billyjoe
10-12-2006, 06:36 PM
Ray,
Welcome to my world. If PEIX drops 2.80 tomorrow I could still win this thing. Why does everyone love ethanol this week ? Can't find any news on TRT.
------------billyjoe
spikefader
10-12-2006, 07:02 PM
...I just try to remind people every now and then, especially certain scofflaws, the most prominent of which whose name I don't want to mention, but it sort of rhymes with "eraser." :)
Hey Ski-eraser....I mean Skiracer.......Ski....,
It's always something ain't it? The more chart the better in my book! :D
SssSssSss
Hey, by the way, what's the best Zinfandel you've had lately? Or are you strictly a cab sav-er?
It looks like Van McCoy has all but sewn this baby up! On the other hand, if you consider what happened to Ray the beer-drinking dart-thrower and Citizen Kane today, then you'll see how things can sometimes turn out quite differently than expected.
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8581/avs7.gif (http://imageshack.us)
:cramersmiley:http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/7310/cramersmiley4hc.gif (http://imageshack.us):cramersmiley:
skiracer
10-12-2006, 08:54 PM
Hey Ski-eraser....I mean Skiracer.......Ski....,
It's always something ain't it? The more chart the better in my book! :D
SssSssSss
Hey, by the way, what's the best Zinfandel you've had lately? Or are you strictly a cab sav-er?
Boy could you be more right! I'm with you. Jeez by the time you get done resizing them to make everyone happy you can't read them anymore.
My favorites are all the California reds. I have quite a number of Cabs put away. I kind of collect them but I love the Zinfandels, Merlos, pinot noirs, and a number of the blends from different wineries. I had a 2003 Ridge Zifandel a couple of weeks ago at a friends house. His wife made a beautiful roast beef with the ribs on it and sometimes a cab or merlot is to heavy for me with a greasier meat like around the edges of a roast like that. I live for the fat and gristle and marbly meat and a lighter red like a Zif is better with that type of meat for me. I also like to drink the cabs at room temp without any chill but with a Zif I'll put an ice cube in the glass to give it a little chill. There are a number of Australian and Chilean Zifandels that are really inexpensive and still great tasting which I will drink and have in my stash. What are some of your favorite names or vineyards?
What are some of your favorite names or vineyards? Almaden. Not because I'm much of a wine drinker but because I lived there from '64 to '73. I do remember thinking the Glen Ellen wine tasted particularly good when I tried it.
skiracer
10-12-2006, 10:13 PM
Almaden. Not because I'm much of a wine drinker but because I lived there from '64 to '73. I do remember thinking the Glen Ellen wine tasted particularly good when I tried it.
Nice part of the state Rob, but that vineyard is at best a lower grade commercial producer. I've drank the Glen Ellen label and it's what it is. Not for anything but if you were to start to acquire a taste for the better stuff and become more discriminating in what you drink as far as wine labels or vineyards then you would see the differences in the better or best vs the commercial grade stuff that you see everywhere.
It was a cool place to grow up. Like I said, when it comes to wine, I'm not going to be a great source of information. Anyway, Almaden doesn't look even remotely the way it did as I remember it. When we first moved there, there were vinyards, prune and citrus orchards everywhere. Now it's all strip malls and condos.
eliaskane
10-12-2006, 11:27 PM
On the other hand, if you consider what happened to Ray the beer-drinking dart-thrower and Citizen Kane today, then you'll see how things can sometimes turn out quite differently than expected.
Yeah... Ouch!
skiracer
10-13-2006, 12:29 PM
Rob,
sell MED and buy ACOR short please.
Rob,
sell MED and buy ACOR short please.
I thought you "sell" short????
skiracer
10-13-2006, 12:56 PM
I thought you "sell" short????
You're absolutely right Doug. It is "sell" short. Please excuse my oversight and please let the play go as I intended. I meant sell short but then Rob knows exactly what I intended. I certainly didn't mean buy long. You, my friend, should be in editing literature.
ACOR does appear on today's Reg SHO Threshold Security List (http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/aspx/regsho.aspx) for NASDAQ securities, and it does not show up on the IB shortable securities list.
This shorting thing is a real bugaboo for this contest. I don't like it.
Shall we do away with it? If you say no, then please suggest a simple way to make a determination.
Here's part of the problem: I don't have time to run out and check the IB site every time someone decides they want to short a stock. This contest consumes too much of my time as it is.
So what's it gonna be?
Rob,
sell MED and buy ACOR short please.MED sold at $10.15. Your position is now in ca$h, and you have one more trade this week if you like. If you want to short a stock, please check the IB shortable securities list (http://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/trading/SearchShortableStocks.php?cntry=usa&tag=United%20States&ib_entity=llc&ln=) first.
Lyehopper
10-13-2006, 01:19 PM
I thought you "sell" short????
That's right DEF, you Sell first then buy to complete the trade.
Actually you borrow the shares and pay the brokerage interest and a fee to handle the transaction (Sell Short)....
Then when you "Cover" the short trade (buy to cover) by buying the shares on the open market thus paying the brokerage back at the current price and pocket (or pay) the difference....
Here's a copy of post #672 on my thread explaining the short trade in Redneck terms.... SsSsSsssss!
http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?t=1289&page=68
Hypothetically.... Let's say you wanted to short sell some cattle....
There are cattle producers who always have cattle in inventory regardless of the current live beef prices. Just as there are brokerage houses that own shares of many different securities (stocks) regardless of the current stock prices.
Now you (the cattle speculator) have a truck and a stock trailer. You own no farm land, not one acre!.... you own no cattle herd NOTHING! Just a truck and a trailer.
You call me because you know I always have cattle on my farm (regardless of current market prices) and you make me a proposal.
Proposal:
(1) To borrow ten (10) 500 pound black A-1 Angus steers from me for an undisclosed period of time.
(2) To pay me back with identical steers at some future date.
(3) You then propose to compensate me for the (amount of) time you've borrowed this cattle by paying me interest (at current rates) on the (current) value of the 5,000 (total) pounds of live cattle you are borrowing.
The Short Trade:
Now you load up the ten steers and you promptly truck them to the nearest livestock market and sell them on the open market at the current price of $1.50 per pound. You take the money and go home and drink a shot of "The GoJi" and hope that live cattle prices soon fall.
It's five weeks later and a news article hits the wire that Mad Cow Disease has been discovered on a dozen farms in the Mid West and Live Cattle prices plummet!....
You Drink a shot of "The GoJi" and hook up your stock trailer to your F-350 Ford and head out to the Livestock Market to buy back the ten 500 pound A-1 Angus Steers you own me. You buy them for $0.50 cents per pound! YEEEHAWWWW!!!!
Then you truck them out to Lyehopper Hollow Farm and unload them.... You then shake my hand, drink a shot of "The GoJi" with me, talk about the weather and leave with a smile on your face! AND you go back home with $5,000.00 profit in your wallet (minus the interest paid out)....
And then you stalk the next "deal"....jejeje :p
skiracer
10-13-2006, 01:19 PM
MED sold at $10.15. Your position is now in Ca$h, and you have one more trade this week if you like. If you want to short a stock, please check the IB shortable securities list (http://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/trading/SearchShortableStocks.php?cntry=usa&tag=United%20States&ib_entity=llc&ln=) first.
No problemo.
Lyehopper
10-13-2006, 01:28 PM
ACOR does appear on today's Reg SHO Threshold Security List (http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/aspx/regsho.aspx) for NASDAQ securities, and it does not show up on the IB shortable securities list.
This shorting thing is a real bugaboo for this contest. I don't like it.
Shall we do away with it? If you say no, then please suggest a simple way to make a determination.
Here's part of the problem: I don't have time to run out and check the IB site every time someone decides they want to short a stock. This contest consumes too much of my time as it is.
So what's it gonna be?
I say we keep the provision to short a stock http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/images/icons/icon14.gif .... We just need to check out trades with IB first. That's not so hard to do. Plus the link to IB is in the POTW rules at the bottom of all Rob's posts.... So it's not too difficult to check first.
OK FELLAS! if you want to short check the SHO list on IB FIRST!
PS.... X, STLD and AKS are not on the SHO list, so feel free to short them in real life! http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/images/icons/icon14.gif
spikefader
10-13-2006, 01:34 PM
POTW has always been a game. Sure...many of us actually trade competition picks "for real", adding icing to the cake for the good weeks......but at the end of the day it's a game, with no requirement to prove you actually traded it in order to get a place in the top 3 or good stats. Should we really care so much about the reality of whether an issue is actually shortable or not? Besides the time factor of checking IB, it's probably not even a good way to do it, for another broker might easily have or "find" shares to short when IB won't or can't. So whether others can actually short someone's else's pick or not, or whether the picker actually traded it or not, isn't the determining factor of success in this competition. It's the % figure from entry and how clever you are at picking direction. This competition is a pure simulation......with no focus on slippage or liquidity factors, no focus on real stops, no focus on sensible and logical limit orders most of us would surely use if we had the option. The true reality of what we're doing is beside the point, so why make an issue with shorting in reality? Shorting is fun, as I recently heard someone say. Let's keep the fun in this competition and not get too carried away with reality.
Lyehopper
10-13-2006, 02:09 PM
POTW has always been a game. Sure...many of us actually trade competition picks "for real", adding icing to the cake for the good weeks......but at the end of the day it's a game, with no requirement to prove you actually traded it in order to get a place in the top 3 or good stats. Should we really care so much about the reality of whether an issue is actually shortable or not? Besides the time factor of checking IB, it's probably not even a good way to do it, for another broker might easily have or "find" shares to short when IB won't or can't. So whether others can actually short someone's else's pick or not, or whether the picker actually traded it or not, isn't the determining factor of success in this competition. It's the % figure from entry and how clever you are at picking direction. This competition is a pure simulation......with no focus on slippage or liquidity factors, no focus on real stops, no focus on sensible and logical limit orders most of us would surely use if we had the option. The true reality of what we're doing is beside the point, so why make an issue with shorting in reality? Shorting is fun, as I recently heard someone say. Let's keep the fun in this competition and not get too carried away with reality.
I think it's a good exercise to check the SHO list first when picking a stock to short sell anyhow.
And since this is only a game using IB's list is very easy and it's already in the current POTW rules.... so I say let the rule stand and have the small percentage of players who actually short sell in the contest check (that days) SHO list (on IB) before they sell short....
Spike and Lye, those are good comments. Thanks. With regard to the observation that we are somewhat removed from reality, not using stops, limit orders, etc., those things we normally use in real life, of course that is true. This question is a little different, I think, because it's not blocking something we could do if it were real, it's blocking something that we could not do if it were real.
If we are to continue using shorting in this contest, then I like the idea of using the Interactive Brokers site, due to its ease of use, as Lye points out. I remain open to suggestions of improved methods of making the determination, but until a better solution emerges, we'll keep doing things this way.
There is one other thing, though. I perceive a need to create an incentive for players to check the IB site prior to shorting, something along the lines of penalizing a player who attempts to short a stock that is listed as not shortable. I think a reasonable penalty would be that it counts as one of the two picks for the week, even though the position is never opened.
As far as I can tell, the Reg SHO list is updated more or less on a daily basis. So a stock that shows up on it today may not be there tomorrow. Whether the list can change in the middle of the day I do not know. But I would like to enlist the help of all who are willing and able to help me by checking up on newly posted short positions. Yes, I want you all to be KGB agents and turn in your neighbors who violate the rules. :)
Attention all players!!!
Rule #5 about shorting
has just been updated
and is now in effect!!!
Sell ABAX...buy LVLT...ICEMAN
skiracer
10-13-2006, 03:54 PM
I happen to agree with Spike about having fun as opposed to becoming to rule orientated and having things super officiated and having to be exactly as in real life. I sold the stock short this morning in my account and that's all that counts with me. I got the sell order filled on MED regardless of the fact that it was apparent that it was somewhat of a contingency trade. Now I'm out in the cold without either play. I wouldn't have exited the MED position if I had known that I wasn't going to get the other side of the play with the short position in ACOR. I'm still in MED in my account so that's all that counts with me on that one two.
I wasn't trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes but really didn't know that IB was the standard that we go by. What means more to me is the call anyway. I think the short call on the stock was right on the money and the timing was right also. Maybe it'll end up in the green today but certainly seems to be downside orientated right now and I would be surprised if it recouped todays downside by the end of day.
Rob you're doing a great job with this game and since you are the one devoting your time to it then whatever you say goes an it is ok with me whatever rules you want to implement. It would be nice if you call it a push and let me have my position in MED back where I made the call. I promise I'll never do it again.
Lyehopper
10-13-2006, 04:05 PM
I happen to agree with Spike about having fun as opposed to becoming to rule orientated and having things super officiated and having to be exactly as in real life. I sold the stock short this morning in my account and that's all that counts with me. I got the sell order filled on MED regardless of the fact that it was apparent that it was somewhat of a contingency trade. Now I'm out in the cold without either play. I wouldn't have exited the MED position if I had known that I wasn't going to get the other side of the play with the short position in ACOR. I'm still in MED in my account so that's all that counts with me on that one two.
I wasn't trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes but really didn't know that IB was the standard that we go by. What means more to me is the call anyway. I think the short call on the stock was right on the money and the timing was right also. Maybe it'll end up in the green today but certainly seems to be downside orientated right now and I would be surprised if it recouped todays downside by the end of day.
Rob you're doing a great job with this game and since you are the one devoting your time to it then whatever you say goes an it is ok with me whatever rules you want to implement. It would be nice if you call it a push and let me have my position in MED back where I made the call. I promise I'll never do it again.
Hey Rob.... Since you gave Billy his short this week I say you give Ski his.... and he does have a point that just because it shows up on IB's list does not mean that you can't actually short it thru another brokerage.
NOW NEXT WEEK? I SAY YOU GET NAILED IF YOU SHORT BEFORE CHECKING THE IB SHO LIST.jejeje :p ..... but of course your call is what counts "oh mighty keeper of the scorecard" and I respectfully submit to your decision.....
I say Rob keeps the score...then Rob makes the rules...Doug
I wasn't trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes but really didn't know that IB was the standard that we go by.I don't think you were either, but the IB rule has been there for a number of months, ever since Spikefader suggested it (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=55923) last time the issue of shorting was raised. The fact is, I already made my decision, and to back off of it now would make my decisions wishy-washy and subject to being questioned at every turn; that is a road I'd rather not have to travel.
p.s. If a 7.41% gain equates to being left out in the cold, I should be left out in the cold every single week. ;)
grebnet
10-13-2006, 04:50 PM
Does anyone know of a site where I can enter a symbol and find funds that are holding it ??
edit...Ill answer my own question...I see you can get it on MSN but welcome other suggestions.
Does anyone know of a site where I can enter a symbol and find funds that are holding it ??Yahoo Finance has that info. but only for the top 10 holders. Here's MSFT (http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=MSFT) for example.
Sell ABAX...buy LVLT...ICEMAN
Nice move Iceman...the second you sell ABAX it goes up 70 cents...Well, another weak showing in the contest but at least my real holdings were all up...ABAX LVLT ICOC QLD :)
Lawdy, lawdy, lawdy, Miss Claudi!!! Van McCoy done done the Hustle on us again, a real XING-er!!! With a huge, gigantic, enormous—and not only that but really big too—15.46% he hustles off the dance floor with the gold!!! (Speaking of the gold, this week the gold color wound up looking more the color of spicy brown mustard, but it's still gold. Trust me.) You da man, Van!!!
Da Mighty Kong beats upon his chest with a series of resounding thuds and lets out a mighty roar, because his gargantuan 10.3%, coupled with his jumbo 7.89% from last week, lands him squarely on top of the heap in Q4 average!! You da King, Kong!! We need an extra long ribbon to tie that silver medal around your huge neck!!
Grebnet is flying with the eagles this week! The PW Eagles, that is! He glued together a mess of that PVC pipe that PWEI makes and piped huge profits right into his hip pocket! Way to fly, Greb!
Despite some pretty heavy blows suffered by a few of our fellow players this time around, the active players still managed to turn an average profit of 0.16%! This is a good thing! Here's another good thing: the DJIA not only hit another all-time intrday high today, it also closed at that high of 11,960.51! Less than 40 points to go until the big 12k! Hey, man, the real estate market is starting to roll over, and a lot of those dollars are going to find their way into the stock market, so get ready to rock and roll!
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Congrats to Sticky, Dmk and Greb...You guys are $$$HUGE$$$
...Doug(IIC)
skiracer
10-13-2006, 09:38 PM
I coulda been da champ maybe but I was ROBBED.
I coulda been da champ maybe but I was ROBBED.
You have to learn to follow the rules Ski ;) ;) :) ;) ;);)
I coulda been a billionaire if my Can'tSlim theory had caught on
skiracer
10-13-2006, 10:10 PM
You have to learn to follow the rules Ski ;) ;) :) ;) ;);)
I coulda been a billionaire if my Can'tSlim theory had caught on
I was only kidding Doug. I did play by the rules.
billyjoe
10-13-2006, 10:22 PM
Way to go Sticky , DMK , Greb. Sticky, you must be a child prodigy or something. DMK seems like you're always in the running and greb , it's always good to hear from you.
----------billyjoe
Can anyone explain to me what PEIX is going to do with all their ethanol. Can it be mixed with anything for human consumption?
grebnet
10-13-2006, 11:37 PM
Although I think PWEI will continue( and Ill continue to hold.) I gotta try a new one for next week. Today I bought PACT , Im actually hoping for a pullback next week to add more ....but thats my entry pull back on open would be nice for purposes of this POW..
Good luck
spikefader
10-14-2006, 12:10 AM
Congrats to the winners! Nicely done, Sticky.
DCI long for next week.
ninner
10-14-2006, 12:19 AM
ICON long next week
skiracer
10-14-2006, 06:20 AM
I'll remain in MED long again this week please.
New-born baby
10-14-2006, 05:30 PM
Please start me off in Ca$$$$$h money :D
Gatorman
10-14-2006, 05:43 PM
Will go with CDNS long
Unless I change my mind, I'm going to take GOOG long.
Quasi-Ernie is liking the looks of BBD lately, so BBD long for the Q.
Websman
10-14-2006, 10:30 PM
AKS - short
Crazy? The VTP thinks not...
jiesen
10-14-2006, 10:39 PM
AMLN - Long
crazy? NBB thinks so!;)
Peter Hansen
10-15-2006, 12:12 PM
ROB Please cancel my previous pick for this week and put me into PPDI LONG..Earnings will be released after close on Monday ...and as Stock has gone up previous 3 quarters .......as night follows day .....so will PPDI! Take that to the bank. Rob you are really smiling in that photograph ....but with such a pretty lady behind you ..... who wouldn't. LOL Take care Pete!
peanuts
10-15-2006, 01:15 PM
First of all, I'd like to pass my hearty congrats to Stkytreat. You really aren't so little, as a matter of fact, dude, you are $$$HUUUUUGE$$$ Great pick in XING, maybe I should begin to play your picks :D
DMK112, Grebnet, you guys are big.
For this upcoming week, Mr. Rob, I would like to begin with a long position in BITS. Thank you very much, and keep up the great work!
dmk112
10-15-2006, 01:38 PM
I think I need to post this way:
NRPH - LONG
billyjoe
10-15-2006, 02:08 PM
Still
Thinking
----billyjoe
Gwhiz
10-15-2006, 03:58 PM
FRG LONG plz
At this point I will have to start in ca$h...Have not really looked at anything yet this weekend except index charts...IIC
spikefader
10-15-2006, 08:28 PM
I am changing my pick to STEC long please.
billyjoe
10-15-2006, 08:54 PM
Rob,
TCHC long.Thanks
---------billyjoe
skiracer
10-15-2006, 09:23 PM
Rob,
TCHC long.Thanks
---------billyjoe
Billyjoe,
When I first looked at your pick I thought it was THC - long.
Please cancel my previous pick for this week . . .Well, Mr. Pete, if you say so, but I didn't see a previous pick made by you this week.
Rob you are really smiling in that photograph ....but with such a pretty lady behind you ..... who wouldn't.Pretty and talented too! That's Linda Perry (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m39Ey_Sw7qY)!
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billyjoe
10-15-2006, 09:54 PM
Billyjoe,
When I first looked at your pick I thought it was THC - long.
Ski,
Of course you thought I'd picked Tenet Health Care , and why not. A nice profit could have been made by purchasing it in late July.
-----------billyjoe
skiracer
10-15-2006, 10:21 PM
Ski,
Of course you thought I'd picked Tenet Health Care , and why not. A nice profit could have been made by purchasing it in late July.
-----------billyjoe
Very cool return Billyjoe. Is Tenet Health Care based in Mexico or perhaps Columbia.
Well, Mr. Pete, if you say so, but I didn't see a previous pick made by you this week.
It was deleted
JohnHenry
10-16-2006, 01:51 AM
Sticky, you must be a child prodigy or something.
Thanks Billyjoe but no prodigy here...just lucky.
JohnHenry
10-16-2006, 01:53 AM
Thanks eveyone. Congrats to all in the green last week.
Hi Rob
I would like ENTG long Please...Thank you for keeping score for us. Thanks dude!:)
mimo_100
10-16-2006, 07:47 AM
CLRK long please, Rob.
Have a great week and congratulations to all of the winners.:)
Tim
A K STEEL HLDG CORP (NYSE:AKS)
Last Trade: 14.67
1y Target Est: 11.17
52wk Range: 6.43 - 15.95
Avg Vol (3m): 2,226,070
Market Cap: 1.61B
P/E (ttm): N/A
EPS (ttm): -0.32
Div & Yield: N/A (N/A)
AMYLIN PHARMA INC (NasdaqGS:AMLN)
Last Trade: 48.17
1y Target Est: 49.42
52wk Range: 32.63 - 51.54
Avg Vol (3m): 1,930,650
Market Cap: 5.97B
P/E (ttm): N/A
EPS (ttm): -2.23
Div & Yield: N/A (N/A)
BANCO BRADESCO ADS (NYSE:BBD)
Last Trade: 36.69
1y Target Est: 38.89
52wk Range: 23.01 - 43.81
Avg Vol (3m): 1,258,720
Market Cap: 35.84B
P/E (ttm): 11.76
EPS (ttm): 3.12
Div & Yield: 3.47 (9.50%)
BITSTREAM INC (NasdaqCM:BITS)
Last Trade: 9.46
1y Target Est: N/A
52wk Range: 2.50 - 10.37
Avg Vol (3m): 175,926
Market Cap: 86.33M
P/E (ttm): 35.97
EPS (ttm): 0.26
Div & Yield: N/A (N/A)
CADENCE DESIGN SYS (NasdaqGS:CDNS)
Last Trade: 17.90
1y Target Est: 21.25
52wk Range: 14.93 - 19.65
Avg Vol (3m): 2,247,260
Market Cap: 5.02B
P/E (ttm): 55.94
EPS (ttm): 0.32
Div & Yield: N/A (N/A)
COLOR KINETICS INCOR (NasdaqGM:CLRK)
Last Trade: 21.30
1y Target Est: 21.00
52wk Range: 11.84 - 23.60
Avg Vol (3m): 96,545.5
Market Cap: 395.35M
P/E (ttm): 131.48
EPS (ttm): 0.16
Div & Yield: N/A (N/A)
ENTEGRIS INC (NasdaqGS:ENTG)
Last Trade: 11.79
1y Target Est: 13.27
52wk Range: 8.37 - 12.00
Avg Vol (3m): 1,059,780
Market Cap: 1.65B
P/E (ttm): N/A
EPS (ttm): -0.23
Div & Yield: N/A (N/A)
FRONTEER DEV GRP INC (AMEX:FRG)
Last Trade: 5.78
1y Target Est: N/A
52wk Range: 2.55 - 7.27
Avg Vol (3m): 412,309
Market Cap: 343.96M
P/E (ttm): N/A
EPS (ttm): -0.05
Div & Yield: N/A (N/A)
GOOGLE (NasdaqGS:GOOG)
Last Trade: 427.30
1y Target Est: 499.65
52wk Range: 292.54 - 475.11
Avg Vol (3m): 5,821,790
Market Cap: 130.05B
P/E (ttm): 62.43
EPS (ttm): 6.85
Div & Yield: N/A (N/A)
ICONIX BRAND GROUP (NasdaqGM:ICON)
Last Trade: 18.53
1y Target Est: 21.75
52wk Range: 7.66 - 18.73
Avg Vol (3m): 421,627
Market Cap: 726.08M
P/E (ttm): 26.89
EPS (ttm): 0.69
Div & Yield: N/A (N/A)
MEDIFAST INC (NYSE:MED)
Last Trade: 10.33
1y Target Est: 10.50
52wk Range: 3.70 - 21.15
Avg Vol (3m): 676,150
Market Cap: 139.65M
P/E (ttm): 31.40
EPS (ttm): 0.33
Div & Yield: N/A (N/A)
NEW RIVER PHARMA (NasdaqGM:NRPH)
Last Trade: 45.82
1y Target Est: 57.40
52wk Range: 21.32 - 51.04
Avg Vol (3m): 853,921
Market Cap: 1.68B
P/E (ttm): N/A
EPS (ttm): -0.37
Div & Yield: N/A (N/A)
PACIFICNET INC (NasdaqGM:PACT)
Last Trade: 6.19
1y Target Est: 11.00
52wk Range: 4.50 - 9.08
Avg Vol (3m): 202,335
Market Cap: 70.37M
P/E (ttm): 20.98
EPS (ttm): 0.30
Div & Yield: N/A (N/A)
PHARM PROD DEV (NasdaqGS:PPDI)
Last Trade: 36.52
1y Target Est: 41.67
52wk Range: 27.28 - 41.17
Avg Vol (3m): 562,418
Market Cap: 4.27B
P/E (ttm): 27.56
EPS (ttm): 1.33
Div & Yield: 0.10 (0.30%)
SIMPLETECH INC (NasdaqGM:STEC)
Last Trade: 9.29
1y Target Est: 8.96
52wk Range: 3.25 - 9.43
Avg Vol (3m): 457,744
Market Cap: 426.29M
P/E (ttm): 52.78
EPS (ttm): 0.18
Div & Yield: N/A (N/A)
21ST CENTURY HLDG (NasdaqGM:TCHC)
Last Trade: 23.29
1y Target Est: 26.00
52wk Range: 11.07 - 23.84
Avg Vol (3m): 67,793.9
Market Cap: 179.15M
P/E (ttm): 9.34
EPS (ttm): 2.49
Div & Yield: 0.48 (2.10%)
FRG LONG plzHey, Gwhiz. Welcome to the POTW, dude.
In case y'all didn't see it in another thread, Gwhiz is another of our younger participants (17 I think (?)), he's $$$Mr. Market$$$'s neighbor, and goes to school with $$$Mr. Market$$$'s son, Steven.
This is his first round in the POTW.
riverbabe
10-16-2006, 10:47 AM
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Hello Rob & fellow players,
This is my first ever pick! So here goes:
SAI long please!
This is my first ever pick! So here goes: SAI long please!Welcome, Riverbabe. And it only took you almost a year and a half to make your first post. :) I see you are Billyjoe's neighbor in northern Ohio. We won't hold it against you.
Wow! Two new players in one week! Must be my spectacularly awesome neon spaghetti charts. :)
Lyehopper
10-16-2006, 11:39 AM
I just gotta do it.... SHORT X please Rob....
riverbabe
10-16-2006, 11:52 AM
Welcome, Riverbabe. And it only took you almost a year and a half to make your first post. :) I see you are Billyjoe's neighbor in northern Ohio. We won't hold it against you.
Wow! Two new players in one week! Must be my spectacularly awesome neon spaghetti charts. :)
Hi Rob, I'm just another disillusioned long-time IBDer who decided not to renew. Skiracer, Louetta, Ninner and the HUGE Mr. M. are like family to me, so I feel right at home!
Love all the wisdom in this forum. Expect to profit handsomely! May the market gods be with us all!
diogenes
10-16-2006, 12:06 PM
Start with Ca$h.
The Photon
10-16-2006, 01:03 PM
AXR long -
Conspicuous by their absence this week are: Curly, The Beer-drinking Dart-thrower, Biff Clemens, Colossal Karel, and Citizen Kane.
And what the heck ever happened to Scifos? He gets married and he's never heard from again. His honeymoon must've been either really good or really bad!
grebnet
10-16-2006, 02:14 PM
Anyone else riding this run..... PWEI ???
Just got back was ko'd by the storm been without power since Fri. at 5:30 am and not only power but ran out of beer about 8:00pm the same nite.What happened last week?Rob I'll try to pick something but please put me In ca$h for now [ thats like currency ] Just got word the store has a shipment of suds.Man you can not believe the distruction the storm caused.:eek::eek::eek:
grebnet
10-16-2006, 02:36 PM
Just got back was ko'd by the storm been without power since Fri. at 5:30 am and not only power but ran out of beer about 8:00pm the same nite.What happened last week?Rob I'll try to pick something but please put me In ca$h for now [ thats like currency ] Just got word the store has a shipment of suds.Man you can not believe the distruction the storm caused.:eek::eek::eek:
Those of us in Syracuse appreciate you guys stopping the snow from getting to us :)
Rob please put me icoc -long thanks
alice4321us
10-16-2006, 03:29 PM
Long on this one hot APKT.
Hi Rob, I'm just another disillusioned long-time IBDer who decided not to renew. Skiracer, Louetta, Ninner and the HUGE Mr. M. are like family to me, so I feel right at home!
Love all the wisdom in this forum. Expect to profit handsomely! May the market gods be with us all!
Welcome RiverBabe!!!...Doug aka IIC aka Mr. Breakout aka Iceman aka...
I don't care what you call me...As long as you call me ;)
spikefader
10-16-2006, 04:05 PM
I just gotta do it.... SHORT X please Rob....Gotta admire Lye's conviction to the FA! :) SssSss
Good luck though!
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peanuts
10-16-2006, 04:49 PM
Please sell BITS and buy TSRA. Thank you very much
billyjoe
10-16-2006, 05:07 PM
Just got back was ko'd by the storm been without power since Fri. at 5:30 am and not only power but ran out of beer about 8:00pm the same nite.What happened last week?Rob I'll try to pick something but please put me In ca$h for now [ thats like currency ] Just got word the store has a shipment of suds.Man you can not believe the distruction the storm caused.:eek::eek::eek:
Ray,
Sorry to hear of the beer shortage...the storm was also a bad thing.
------------billyjoe
Well somebody in EH is liking STEC, but I don't see any breaking news, and the volume is falling a little short of throroughly convincing. Any ideas on a reason for the spike, Spike?
spikefader
10-16-2006, 05:58 PM
Well somebody in EH is liking STEC, but I don't see any breaking news, and the volume is falling a little short of throroughly convincing. Any ideas on a reason for the spike, Spike?
No idea...perhaps a late print from this morning's higher trading?? A bit bizarre...
Wow, Mr. Goober Peas and Alice B. Toklas jump out to an early lead!
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:p :rolleyes: :cool:
Billy getting thru the storm Is not easy but without BEER It Is just about Impossible.:(:(:(
Billy getting thru the storm Is not easy but without BEER It Is just about Impossible.:(:(:(
Don't you have a sled or sleigh???
I remember the big earthquake in L.A. back in '94...Everyone was at the store buying bottled water...waiting for more deliveries at jacked up prices...Not me, I just bot beer...they had plenty at regular prices...IIC
jiesen
10-16-2006, 09:11 PM
Welcome RiverBabe!!!...Doug aka IIC aka Mr. Breakout aka Iceman aka...
I don't care what you call me...As long as you call me ;)
ditto that! Always glad to see a new face here. A hearty welcome to RiverBabe! :)
skiracer
10-16-2006, 10:28 PM
Hi Rob, I'm just another disillusioned long-time IBDer who decided not to renew. Skiracer, Louetta, Ninner and the HUGE Mr. M. are like family to me, so I feel right at home!
Love all the wisdom in this forum. Expect to profit handsomely! May the market gods be with us all!
Riverbabe,
I just took a look at the date of my first post here. It was on 3/03/05. For some reason I thought that I had been posting here longer that that. It seems longer. Before this I was posting at the IBD forum for about 2 1/2 /3 years before, like you, I became disillusioned with the whole IBD scenario. Were you there during that time period. That would have been going back to at least March of 2002 or thereabouts. I can't say that I remember that name. If you were there at that time were you using another name. I remember Louetta and Runner, but he was GEO777 over there. There were some others there then who are here now. Doug (IIC) and MM and probably more but it gets hard to remember all the names. Anyway thank goodness that you found your way here and gave up on IBD. There are some good points within it's discipline that I feel are worthwhile on the fundamental side but other than that I been long gone from it.
So you've been lurking here for over a year and a half. I like that. It's a great show of patience which in my book is one of the most important attributes. Glad that you're here and I'm sure that you'll find us to be a great group to be part of.
jiesen
10-16-2006, 10:37 PM
Don't you have a sled or sleigh???
I remember the big earthquake in L.A. back in '94...Everyone was at the store buying bottled water...waiting for more deliveries at jacked up prices...Not me, I just bot beer...they had plenty at regular prices...IIC
my cousin was attending CSUN at the time... her apartment building was flattened in that quake. thankfully, she escaped injury. not everyone was so lucky.
my cousin was attending CSUN at the time... her apartment building was flattened in that quake. thankfully, she escaped injury. not everyone was so lucky.Was that the 3-story apt. bldg. on Reseda Blvd. where the 1st floor just got crushed, and the 2nd and 3rd floors basically became the 1st and 2nd? I remember that. Somewhere I have some video of it that I filmed.
My mother-in-law, who lives in Northridge, not far from the epicenter, and whose husband had just died only months earlier, had a lot of damage to her house. My wife and I flew out there within a day or two to help her out. I did a lot of repairs to her house and some of her furniture that had been damaged. The house across the street from hers burned to the ground.
We have some other very close friends out there who live practically right on top of where the epicenter of that quake was. They said they were just waking up but still lying in bed when it hit and that it literally threw them straight up two feet in the air.
While we were there, there was a 5-point-something aftershock centered around Panorama City, another close-by community, which aftershock wrecked some of the repair work I had just done, and I had to re-repair it. Ah, memories.
jiesen
10-17-2006, 12:17 AM
Was that the 3-story apt. bldg. on Reseda Blvd. where the 1st floor just got crushed, and the 2nd and 3rd floors basically became the 1st and 2nd? I remember that. Somewhere I have some video of it that I filmed.
yep, sounds like that's the one. I believe she lived on the 1st floor, but I'm going to ask her next time I see her to be sure.
Riverbabe,
I just took a look at the date of my first post here. It was on 3/03/05. For some reason I thought that I had been posting here longer that that. It seems longer.
Hey Ski...We FINALLY agree on something...LOL
But honestly...Ski's whole post was good...RiverBabe or anyone else...You'll probably find that I am the biggest IBD basher on this forum...I still take the paper...I subscribe to R/T DGO...I was a Looooong time Canslimmer(Since the 70's...I don't even think it was called CS back then)...But I use their data...Not their Outdated "Pie In The Sky...EVER CHANGING" system...Good to see you here...Best, Doug(IIC)
Well somebody in EH is liking STEC, but I don't see any breaking news, and the volume is falling a little short of throroughly convincing. Any ideas on a reason for the spike, Spike?
Maybe they FINALLY realized that it is # 2 in the IIC 100???
spikefader
10-17-2006, 11:16 AM
Maybe they FINALLY realized that it is # 2 in the IIC 100???
STEC is also in 4 Parabolic lists. It's best performer in PSP#18 (IIC100 filtered) at +28.74%, 2nd best in PSP#21 (IIC100 filtered) at +21.32%, 10th best in PSP#23 (IIC100) at +1.54%.........and it's also on the latest Voodoo charts filtered list. What a chart too!
riverbabe
10-17-2006, 12:03 PM
Riverbabe,
I just took a look at the date of my first post here. It was on 3/03/05. For some reason I thought that I had been posting here longer that that. It seems longer. Before this I was posting at the IBD forum for about 2 1/2 /3 years before, like you, I became disillusioned with the whole IBD scenario. Were you there during that time period. That would have been going back to at least March of 2002 or thereabouts. I can't say that I remember that name. If you were there at that time were you using another name. I remember Louetta and Runner, but he was GEO777 over there. There were some others there then who are here now. Doug (IIC) and MM and probably more but it gets hard to remember all the names. Anyway thank goodness that you found your way here and gave up on IBD. There are some good points within it's discipline that I feel are worthwhile on the fundamental side but other than that I been long gone from it.
So you've been lurking here for over a year and a half. I like that. It's a great show of patience which in my book is one of the most important attributes. Glad that you're here and I'm sure that you'll find us to be a great group to be part of.
Hi Ski and all my other former IBD idols,
I started out with IBD in early 2003. When you announced you were moving here, I decided to pay attention! When IIC (Mr.Breakout) left and they kicked out Mr. M (whom I enjoy/enjoyed immensely) I wasn't happy. All the oldtimers (like Greenday, et al.) are no longer posting. KLINV shows up very infrequently (he has a real job now). You'll be interested to know that Agronul now has his own thread! The style of investing of the great "P" isn't mine. There is also a poster who has changed his posting name at least 6 times in the last 6 months who posts on every single thread - up to 50% of the posts daily. Very tiresome. IBD itself hasn't given me any good leads or good insight recently. I don't know. Like I said, I'm just disillusioned by the whole scene there.
You would definitely remember me, but right now I'd like to remain incognito for a while. I have grown in investing wisdom since then so hope to be able to contribute actively here.
spikefader
10-17-2006, 01:03 PM
Sell STEC and short IMCL thanks, Rob.
spikefader
10-17-2006, 01:04 PM
And it is shortable with IB.
http://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/trading/ViewShortableStocks.php?key=imcl&cntry=usa&tag=United+States&ib_entity=llc&ln=
Sell STEC and short IMCLAs you wish, but take my advice and don't short it with real $$$. No, no, no.
Gary611
10-17-2006, 01:58 PM
Put me in POOP long for the week, Rob. Otherwise, short me SLAK for being a stooge & actually FORGETTING to pick.
Way too much Brite-o over the weekend,
Gary
spikefader
10-17-2006, 02:07 PM
As you wish, but take my advice and don't short it with real $$$. No, no, no.
LOL ... stubborn FA in the face of stubborn TA! Ain't this speculation at its finest!
Rob, thank you indeed for the advice. But I humbly advise you to bail out before it gets whacked mercilessly down to that $7.40 gap!! SssSssSss
peanuts
10-17-2006, 03:13 PM
...but right now I'd like to remain incognito for a while. I have grown in investing wisdom since then so hope to be able to contribute actively here.
Hi Riverbabe,
That's an interesting name. Any reason for choosing it? :)
You and your contributions will be welcome
riverbabe
10-17-2006, 04:04 PM
Hi Riverbabe,
That's an interesting name. Any reason for choosing it? :)
You and your contributions will be welcome
Yes ;) and thanks for the welcome!
Hi Riverbabe, That's an interesting name. Any reason for choosing it?Peanuts,
Maybe she (or he, I suppose) lives in a VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER (http://tinyurl.com/y25myy)!!! (Make sure you click the hyperlink!)
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skiracer
10-17-2006, 05:17 PM
Peanuts,
Maybe she (or he, I suppose) lives in a VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER (http://tinyurl.com/y25myy)!!! (Make sure you click the hyperlink!)
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/5387/ajk4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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That was so good Rob. I saw him do that the first time on Saturday Night Live.
I was watching that night when Chris Farley interviewed Paul McCartney. That was classic. And when "Father" Guido Sarducci interviewed him too. And when Lorne Michaels held up a certified check for $5,000 and offered to the Beatles if they agreed to reunite on the show. LOL Funny, funny stuff. :D
I've gotta eat, and I've gotta get outta here! I may not have time to get the scorecard up until late tonight or early tomorrow. If I can, I will. Hang tough, team.
Gary, you STOOGE! Why I oughta moider ya! Nyuk, nyuk!
skiracer
10-17-2006, 05:33 PM
Hi Ski and all my other former IBD idols,
I started out with IBD in early 2003. When you announced you were moving here, I decided to pay attention! When IIC (Mr.Breakout) left and they kicked out Mr. M (whom I enjoy/enjoyed immensely) I wasn't happy. All the oldtimers (like Greenday, et al.) are no longer posting. KLINV shows up very infrequently (he has a real job now). You'll be interested to know that Agronul now has his own thread! The style of investing of the great "P" isn't mine. There is also a poster who has changed his posting name at least 6 times in the last 6 months who posts on every single thread - up to 50% of the posts daily. Very tiresome. IBD itself hasn't given me any good leads or good insight recently. I don't know. Like I said, I'm just disillusioned by the whole scene there.
You would definitely remember me, but right now I'd like to remain incognito for a while. I have grown in investing wisdom since then so hope to be able to contribute actively here.
I do remember all those names. Amazing how I was trying to think of some of the old names and couldn't. Boy that brought back a whole lot of memories. Well glad your here. Trying to think of what your old name could have been. Doug will know. He has every name of every person that ever posted on any forum in the universe on file somewhere.
JohnHenry
10-17-2006, 09:32 PM
Peanuts,
Maybe she (or he, I suppose) lives in a VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER (http://tinyurl.com/y25myy)!!!
I think it's a she...never heard of a dude calling himself "babe"...who knows nowaday!
btw, Hi riverbabe.
Hi Rob I would like to sell Entg and short EZPW...I checked the site and it's shortable...thanks.
Websman
10-17-2006, 10:16 PM
Cover my AKS short.
buy - ERS
I do remember all those names. Amazing how I was trying to think of some of the old names and couldn't. Boy that brought back a whole lot of memories. Well glad your here. Trying to think of what your old name could have been. Doug will know. He has every name of every person that ever posted on any forum in the universe on file somewhere.
First of all I was WallStreet Wally at IBD...I never posted much...but I read quite a bit at first...Even met my trading partner there in July 2003 although she never ever posted there...But we are still close.
Some of you might remember Reed Floren at the beginning...Back in 2003...The High School Whiz Kid back then. He had troubles with IBD and I'm sure Louetta remembers...He and I are friends and partners in some sites.
I've read some good stuff at their forums...But most of the good ones don't last very long there...What they really need is a Moderator to guide things a long...Many of you may remember that I have publically offered to moderate their Forum for $250k yr...But the phone never rings...IIC
Alice B. Toklas sits atop the writhing, seething mass of all us money-grubbing capitalists, with Mr. Goober Peas right on his coat tails.
But what's this? Shooting across the grid like a Perseid meteor on a moonless, cloudless night, hundreds of miles from the city lights! ... Faster than a speeding bullet point on an S&P report! More powerful than a loco motive! Able to leap tall, building Elliott Waves in a single bound! But strangely unable to put out those flames shooting from his brain! ... Look! ... Up in the sky! ... It's a wave! ... It's a particle! ... It's neither! ... It's a wave-particle duality, exhibiting characteristics of both! It's The Photon! And he's taking no prisoners!
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I think it's a she...never heard of a dude calling himself "babe"...Hey, Sticky, do you recognize this dude?
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Spike, I know you still have hopes for your IMCL short, which outlook I do not share, as you know, but it's a good thing you sold STEC! Have you seen what it's doing today? Wow, getting whacked big time! Down just over 9% right now.
Out ABAX...in STEC...Iceman
Gwhiz
10-18-2006, 12:19 PM
Please take me out of FRG and put me in AKAM
thks
mimo_100
10-18-2006, 01:03 PM
Sell CLRK -- put me in ca$h:)
Thanks Rob
billyjoe
10-18-2006, 06:19 PM
Rob,
Do you see a big run up in GOOG before year's end ? My son wants me to buy him some and he's usually right about tech stocks. Still kicking myself for not buying at 75 and kicking myself again for selling at 218.
----------billyjoe
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DOW Intraday > 12,000 First Time Ever!!
And on the POTW: like I said, The Flamin' Brain is taking no prisoners! Shoot, I guess if he had his way, Webs would soon be looking for another job!
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Do you see a big run up in GOOG before year's end ?Hard to say when, Billyjoe, but I see it going to 500 before too long. I'm in it for the loooonnnnnng haul.
skiracer
10-18-2006, 06:30 PM
Please take me out of FRG and put me in AKAM
thks
Whiz,
What were you thinking at the moment that you made this decision. Did you look at an intraday chart at all before taking this long. It was already on a big slide when you made the entry. Please explain your reasoning on this on or what you saw for a long play.
spikefader
10-18-2006, 07:54 PM
Spike, I know you still have hopes for your IMCL short, which outlook I do not share, as you know, but it's a good thing you sold STEC! Have you seen what it's doing today? Wow, getting whacked big time! Down just over 9% right now.
Yowza! Glad I bailed on that one! :D It just wasn't actin' right at all. Premarket it trades higher, then through the day sold and didn't respond well to the inverted SHS pattern...then trades up afterhours again...light volume, then down....lol It was actin' strange.
I note IMCL sold off to 30.00 after hours tonight...then bounced a bit... curious action...yep, still hopeful for something tomorrow and Friday. But hey, my form in POTW has been terrible, so it's maybe just wishful thinkin' lol
Gwhiz
10-18-2006, 07:57 PM
skiracer,
I saw in mid morning the intraday chart levelling out and a spike in volume.
Seemed like Akamai was down recently and hadnt broken the bullish trend so seemed like a good buy. Also, I was looking for FRG to break out of its narrawong triangle for a big gian and that did not happen.
I'm abosulutely terribel at investmnet contests so far.
Participated in 2 and im in last place in both of them!
At least im doing ok so far with my hard earned cash.
Would appreciate if u could explain if there were any warning signs I should have seen to avoid that move.
spikefader
10-18-2006, 07:57 PM
Hard to say when, Billyjoe, but I see it going to 500 before too long. I'm in it for the loooonnnnnng haul.Agree entirely. I see $550 as resistance. Buy any significant dip tomorrow after hours is what I'll do for a quick scalp.
skiracer
10-18-2006, 08:46 PM
skiracer,
I saw in mid morning the intraday chart levelling out and a spike in volume.
Seemed like Akamai was down recently and hadnt broken the bullish trend so seemed like a good buy. Also, I was looking for FRG to break out of its narrawong triangle for a big gian and that did not happen.
I'm abosulutely terribel at investmnet contests so far.
Participated in 2 and im in last place in both of them!
At least im doing ok so far with my hard earned cash.
Would appreciate if u could explain if there were any warning signs I should have seen to avoid that move.
For going to a school like the Princeton School you and Stky leave alot to be desired in the spelling area. You had better get your acts together in that area or you won't be impressing anyone on your future resumes and any type of correspondence. You had better get used to understanding how important it it to have your letters, reports, and any other written documents free of these miscues with the spelling. Sorry for chastising you publicly here but this is so important.
It's not the contest's fault with that play. I guess that you don't have realtime streaming charts available to you. At the time of your post which was around 11 the stock was in a pretty good freefall with no sound signal of a reversal or bottom. It gave no indication that it was done and I think that you just were hoping that because it had fallen so far so fast that it was going to stop and because of that you made the play. There was a spike in volume but it was selling volume. There was no spike in buying volume today until right at the close maybe. You have to base your decisions on alot more than what you just did. It's not a matter of not being good at contests. That's BS because it has nothing to do with it. If you are doing well with your hard earned cash plays then maybe you should have gone in with one of them instead of this pick. You might as well get used to this kind of scrutiny and criticism if you want to play with the older guys. You get the praise when your pick goes well and this is just the other side of the coin.
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Gwhiz
10-18-2006, 09:27 PM
For going to a school like the Princeton School you and Stky leave alot to be desired in the spelling area. You had better get your acts together in that area or you won't be impressing anyone on your future resumes and any type of correspondence. You had better get used to understanding how important it it to have your letters, reports, and any other written documents free of these miscues with the spelling. Sorry for chastising you publicly here but this is so important.
I've written a few resumes so far ski and never been rejected for a job. So far I've worked at a restaurant, worked in the construction business (mostly building docks), worked on a commercial fishing boat, and I just got a job at an internet startup with the goal of revolutionizing the college admissions process.
Anyway, I'm confident in both my spelling and writing ability, if you find it particularly offensive that I don't always scpel correctly in my posts then I'll be more careful.
Thanks for the reminder though.
BTW I don't know what The Princeton School is, I go to Princeton High School, which is public.
Thanks for the input, on yahoo charts it looks a little different, and I was looking at what the prices were 20 minutes ago.
It's good to have your trades critiqued, so thanks for that.
skiracer
10-18-2006, 09:52 PM
I've written a few resumes so far ski and never been rejected for a job. So far I've worked at a restaurant, worked in the construction business (mostly building docks), worked on a commercial fishing boat, and I just got a job at an internet startup with the goal of revolutionizing the college admissions process. (zandigo.com)
Anyway, I'm confident in both my spelling and writing ability, if you find it particularly offensive that I don't always scpel correctly in my posts then I'll be more careful.
Thanks for the reminder though.
BTW I don't know what The Princeton School is, I go to Princeton High School, which is public.
Thanks for the input, on yahoo charts it looks a little different, and I was looking at what the prices were 20 minutes ago.
It's good to have your trades critiqued, so thanks for that.
I thought you guys went to the Princeton School. I didn't even know there was a Princeton School except that I thought that's what I heard MM call where his son went to school and I thought you guys went to school together. I don't find anything you do offensive Whiz. I enjoy both you and Stky alot and am impressed with both of you guys and your fledgling abilities. I should keep my mouth shut. Don't do anything just for my benefit or because I say you should. I'm nobody that you should even care about their opinion in that vein. Sorry if I offended you which I think I did.
On the other hand the stock play was terrible not in that it fell the way that it did but in the analysis of the situation and timing. It didn't cost you any money so it's no big deal. You and Stky are doing reel good. Keap up the good work.
Gwhiz
10-18-2006, 10:08 PM
No worries skiracer.
It's good to have someone who knows more than me tell me whats up.
I have no problem with someone who's good at this doing that.
Feel free to critique my trades.
You might want to avoid the general life lessons area though.
I think stky goes to school in California or something.
Happy trading:D
jiesen
10-18-2006, 10:14 PM
Hey, Sticky, do you recognize this dude?
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4338/ayb3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
just a guess, but this 'babe' may have been just a tad before stky's time.
skiracer
10-18-2006, 10:23 PM
No worries skiracer.
It's good to have someone who knows more than me tell me whats up.
I have no problem with someone who's good at this doing that.
Feel free to critique my trades.
You might want to avoid the general life lessons area though.
I think stky goes to school in California or something.
Happy trading:D
I meant MM's son. Don't the two of you go to school together? I'll leave the general life lessons to your mom and dad from now on. Sorry about that. This is what happens to you when you get older. You start to think that you know best. Let this be a lesson to you. How's that. Just kidding.
No worries skiracer.
It's good to have someone who knows more than me tell me whats up.
I have no problem with someone who's good at this doing that.
Feel free to critique my trades.
You might want to avoid the general life lessons area though.
I think stky goes to school in California or something.
Happy trading:D
Let me give you a little "Life" Lesson Gwhiz...Maybe Ski got mixed up...Sticky does go to school in Roseville or somewhere near Sacramento...But as far as life lessons...Ski and I don't agree on a lot of things...And he isn't Mr. Grammar IMO either...But if someone gives you advice...You have 2 choices...1) Take it...2) Leave it...Whether he is right or not doesn't really matter...You need to learn to read...digest...and decide for yourself whether or not it has any merit.
To me you sound like you think you know what life is about...To me I rather doubt that you really do...You need to learn to be more tactful...Confidence is Great...Arrogance can ruin you.
You can take my advice or not...I am trying to be constructive...Your response to my post will allow me to see where your head is really at...Best, Doug(IIC)
skiracer
10-19-2006, 07:49 AM
Ski and I don't agree on a lot of things...And he isn't Mr. Grammar IMO either
Please Doug, easy with the life lessons. I'm not a kid ya know. I knows how to speeke and artakulate myselve.
Sticky does go to school in Roseville or somewhere near Sacramento...Really? I must have missed that, or at least I don't remember it. I lived very near there for about 8 months, from late '83 to about mid '84. If you're reading this, Sticky, (and even if you're not) I lived in North Highlands, near McClellan AFB, which has since been shut down I believe. I used to go through Roseville to get to Lincoln, where I framed and finished some three-bedroom tract houses. I can't believe that was more than twenty years ago. Man, how time does fly!
Gwhiz
10-19-2006, 09:48 AM
Doug,
What I was reacting to in skiracer's post was his tone "You had better get your acts together..."
In my response I only meant to show that when I need to write and spell well, I can.
Let us turn our head's from this awful business and devote our energies to the diligent study of the market.
Let us turn our head's from this awful business and devote our energies to the diligent study of the market.Well spoken, young Gwhiz, demonstrating wisdom beyond your years.
jiesen
10-19-2006, 10:35 AM
Well spoken, young Gwhiz, demonstrating wisdom beyond your years.
I agree. That was an excellent response, G. Now on to the markets!!!:cramersmiley:
OK...no more life lessons....Today anyway...Doug(IIC)
mimo_100
10-19-2006, 11:36 AM
OK, Rob, this is an old favorite.:)
Buy PARL.
Thanks
Let us turn our head's from this awful business [. . .]
Well spoken, young Gwhiz, demonstrating wisdom beyond your years.I should add, however, that including an apostrophe in the pluralization of head is, in fact, incorrect.
billyjoe
10-19-2006, 12:21 PM
Rob,
You're a pretty sharp guy. When I saw your thoughts on GOOG I said
"Well, if it's good enough for Rob" Actually , you just confirmed my contention that GOOG is still an unknown entity and the GOOG boys are smarter than even the street figures. A big surprise is on the way and it won't be the "billyjoe kiss of death" that has been floating over my portfolio this week.
-----------billyjoe
Da Mighty Kong roars!!! ... as The Photon's candle power dims somewhat.
I'm comin' after you come tomorrow morning, Kong!
Due to technical difficulties (read: "stoopid human error") Mimo_100 shows up in the wrong place on the scorecard and on the Neon Spaghetti Chart. The problem has been corrected, and all will be well by the next posting.
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skiracer
10-19-2006, 07:00 PM
Doug,
What I was reacting to in skiracer's post was his tone "You had better get your acts together..."
In my response I only meant to show that when I need to write and spell well, I can.
Let us turn our head's from this awful business and devote our energies to the diligent study of the market.
And the dilligent study of our stocks before we make the plays. So Whiz you only give us your second string grammar and spelling. Shocking. And you are absolutely right Whiz in that why should I even give a crap how you present yourself or if we think that you can't spell or form decent sentence structure.
You have made me rethink my feelings on the subject and I have come to the conclusion that it was utterly foolish on my part to be concerned to even the slightest degree with any of that and that in all honesty I really could care less how you present yourself here or anywhere. That's your life and problem and certainly not mine.
But that has nothing to do with the real reason we are all here which is to do stock stuff and that is the most important thing. So I have to agree with your statement about turning our heads towards the dilligent study of stocks and the markets. And not waste any more time on other non profitable stuff.
Runner
10-19-2006, 07:14 PM
Heck my English is horrible and I can’t spell worth a flip
Websman
10-19-2006, 07:29 PM
ERS will make a dramatic drop tomorrow which will ensure my defeat...
skiracer
10-19-2006, 07:40 PM
Heck my English is horrible and I can’t spell worth a flip
I'm the stupid one for opening my mouth about it. It's no big deal whether or not you can spell or make a sentence as long as you can add, subtract, multiply, and divide and count money correctly. And I've been meaning to speak to you about your spelling and English.
And the dilligent study of our stocks before we make the plays. So Whiz you only give us your second string grammar and spelling. Shocking. And you are absolutely right Whiz in that why should I even give a crap how you present yourself or if we think that you can't spell or form decent sentence structure.
You have made me rethink my feelings on the subject and I have come to the conclusion that it was utterly foolish on my part to be concerned to even the slightest degree with any of that and that in all honesty I really could care less how you present yourself here or anywhere. That's your life and problem and certainly not mine.
But that has nothing to do with the real reason we are all here which is to do stock stuff and that is the most important thing. So I have to agree with your statement about turning our heads towards the dilligent study of stocks and the markets. And not waste any more time on other non profitable stuff.
I know that I promised No More Life Lessons today...But I meant the "Market Day"...So, since the market is now closed, please let me point out that it is spelled: diligent
Runner
10-19-2006, 07:47 PM
I'm the stupid one for opening my mouth about it. It's no big deal whether or not you can spell or make a sentence as long as you can add, subtract, multiply, and divide and count money correctly. And I've been meaning to speak to you about your spelling and English.
Ski, I had to buy this new PC because I wore off the numbers on my calculator keypad. This widescreen laptop is the bomb.. Ski I’m more visually oriented conditioned from years of military training..hehe
skiracer
10-19-2006, 07:51 PM
I know that I promised No More Life Lessons today...But I meant the "Market Day"...So, since the market is now closed, please let me point out that it is spelled: diligent
Doug,
You can believe this or not but the reason I spelled diligent with the two l's was in the hope that someone would beat you to the punch with the spelling correction. But once again you are the fastest proofread draw in the west. I must acknowledge you are the fastest and most relentless in your quest to make us all perfect gramatically and in our spelling. My hat is off to you.
skiracer
10-19-2006, 07:54 PM
Ski, I had to buy this new PC because I wore off the numbers on my calculator keypad. This widescreen laptop is the bomb.. Ski I’m more visually oriented conditioned from years of military training..hehe
and these youngsters would be easy prey don't you think.
Doug,
You can believe this or not but the reason I spelled diligent with the two l's was in the hope that someone would beat you to the punch with the spelling correction. But once again you are the fastest proofread draw in the west. I must acknowledge you are the fastest and most relentless in your quest to make us all perfect gramatically and in our spelling. My hat is off to you.Skiracer, if you like that sort of thing, I'd be happy to let you know any time I encounter one of your spelling or grammatical errors. I usually let those things slide, because most people get offended quickly when you correct them. As for me, I look at it this way: if I'm walking around with a hole in the seat of my trousers, or with my fly open, I would appreciate it if someone let me know. It's similar with improper English. I've always been attuned to detail that way. In some ways it's a handicap, but it's my nature, so I live with it.
dmk112
10-19-2006, 09:20 PM
I'm comin' after you come tomorrow morning, Kong!
haha... you're right GOOG is up huge in the after hours but we'll see.
I'm loving the holegram in the chart.
Quote:
Originally Posted by skiracer http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=68487#post68487)
Doug,
You can believe this or not but the reason I spelled diligent with the two l's was in the hope that someone would beat you to the punch with the spelling correction. But once again you are the fastest proofread draw in the west. I must acknowledge you are the fastest and most relentless in your quest to make us all perfect gramatically and in our spelling. My hat is off to you.
Skiracer, if you like that sort of thing, I'd be happy to let you know any time I encounter one of your spelling or grammatical errors. I usually let those things slide, because most people get offended quickly when you correct them. As for me, I look at it this way: if I'm walking around with a hole in the seat of my trousers, or with my fly open, I would appreciate it if someone let me know. It's similar with improper English. I've always been attuned to detail that way. In some ways it's a handicap, but it's my nature, so I live with it.
Geez Rob...I'm sure you could...But 'ya know, it's only fun when they do get offended...Now that Ski has finally realized that it is just my nature to be a playful jerk and that I'm not really trying to bash him...Well, it's just no fun giving him a hard time anymore :(
Rob please take me out icoc and put me Inm slb-long I'm desperate
Websman
10-20-2006, 05:24 PM
ERS will make a dramatic drop tomorrow which will ensure my defeat...
Yup...just as I predicted...jejeje
What the h--- Is going on:confused: I am completely confused:(
Websman
10-20-2006, 05:54 PM
What the h--- Is going on:confused: I am completely confused:(
If you're talking about my confusing post... I'm not sure. I think it may have been a moment of Vulcan insanity. I'm over it now. jejeje
In the immortal words of Frank Costanza, "HOOCHIE MAMA!" I'll take that gold, thank you very much! If I may boast just a tad, that's the third one in six weeks! I'm on a roll, Baby! I hope there are more in the kitchen, 'cause I don't feel like eating this one now.
Sticky took the gold last week, and this week it's the silver!! Pretty impressive, there, Stick-man!! In the immortal words of Han Solo, "Don't get cocky!"
And hey! BillyJoe, rising like a phoenix from Tuesday's ashes, soars high enough to snatch the bronze away from Thursday's leader, Da Mighty Kong! Awesome comeback, BillyJoe! Now you won't have to go and jump off that Tallahachie Bridge! In the immortal words of Bob and Doug McKenzie, "Beauty, eh?"
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Nice going Rob, Stickey, Billy, dmk and Lye...IIC
Gatorman
10-20-2006, 08:52 PM
Rob:
Looks like you are trying to make a habit out of winning this thing.
Good Job!
JohnHenry
10-20-2006, 10:29 PM
Hey, Sticky, do you recognize this dude?
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That’s was clever Rob! LOL…He’s the big bambino…He doesn’t count.
I should have clarified myself; I mean I have never heard of a man using a prefix or suffix “babe” within a screen name.
JohnHenry
10-20-2006, 10:32 PM
Really? I must have missed that, or at least I don't remember it. I lived very near there for about 8 months, from late '83 to about mid '84. If you're reading this, Sticky, (and even if you're not) I lived in North Highlands, near McClellan AFB, which has since been shut down I believe. I used to go through Roseville to get to Lincoln, where I framed and finished some three-bedroom tract houses. I can't believe that was more than twenty years ago. Man, how time does fly!
Yeah hey what a small world, my grand pop retired from McClellan AFB like a million years ago. I used to so swimming and bowl there during the summer when I was younger. My brother went to Highlands High. How come you lived here for a short time, you don’t like it here?
There’s a casino up in Rocklin and it takes over an hour to get to from 80/Greenback to Lincoln. Traffic is so bad here now that no one wants drive any where.
JohnHenry
10-20-2006, 10:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by skiracer http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=68487#post68487)
Doug,
You can believe this or not but the reason I spelled diligent with the two l's was in the hope that someone would beat you to the punch with the spelling correction. But once again you are the fastest proofread draw in the west. I must acknowledge you are the fastest and most relentless in your quest to make us all perfect gramatically and in our spelling. My hat is off to you.
Geez Rob...I'm sure you could...But 'ya know, it's only fun when they do get offended...Now that Ski has finally realized that it is just my nature to be a playful jerk and that I'm not really trying to bash him...Well, it's just no fun giving him a hard time anymore :(
It looks like everyone had fun in English class when I was away.
JohnHenry
10-20-2006, 10:35 PM
Congrats Rob and everyone in the green.
Dude you came from nowhere (in the red) with a win. Wow, that was close by 3/100 of a percent.
BTW, please sell short NVEC. Thanks
Thanks for keeping score.
Peter Hansen
10-20-2006, 10:42 PM
Rob my good man MEMY ....lot of insider buying on this one ! Thanx pete
Congrats Rob and everyone in the green.
Dude you came from nowhere (in the red) with a win. Wow, that was close by 3/100 of a percent.
BTW, please sell short NVEC. Thanks
Thanks for keeping score.
NVEC just catapulted to #1 on the IIC 100...Are you CRAZY???...;)
Put me in STEC long Mr. R...Don't know how often I'll be around...Going to Cape Cod for a week tomorrow morn...Taking my laptop...But not sure about access...Best to All...Love, Doug
JohnHenry
10-21-2006, 02:13 AM
NVEC just catapulted to #1 on the IIC 100...Are you CRAZY???...;)
Slow and inexperience but not crazy.
Gee the stock was up over 24% due to good numbers but there will be a bit of a pull back next week for profit taking. What do I know…let’s see.
New-born baby
10-21-2006, 08:22 AM
Way to go ROB! Man, when you hot, you hot!
Put me in cash money, please :D
Websman
10-21-2006, 08:57 AM
Great job Rob!!!
You're on fire Dude!
And Stky...Dude! What can I say???
You're Smokin' hot! I'm going to start buying your POTW picks. Maybe I'll make some Vulcan $$$!!!
Congrats to all.
Oh...Rob. The gig starts at 10 AM today. I'll see you there. Don't forget to bring an extra monitor along with your guitar.
skiracer
10-21-2006, 09:14 AM
Great job Rob!!!
You're on fire Dude!
And Stky...Dude! What can I say???
You're Smokin' hot! I'm going to start buying your POTW picks. Maybe I'll make some Vulcan $$$!!!
Congrats to all.
Oh...Rob. The gig starts at 10 AM today. I'll see you there. Don't forget to bring an extra monitor along with your guitar.
Webs,
Can I sit in on Air Guitar? I've been rocking lately and feel that I am finally ready to play in front of an audience. Let me know and I'll teleport over this morning before the gig. I hope no one else is thinking of sitting in on Air Guitar.
Rob,
You are literally" smoking" aren't you. Congrats on another fine win this week. Don't be a show-off.
Websman
10-21-2006, 09:16 AM
Webs,
Can I sit in on Air Guitar? I've been rocking lately and feel that I am finally ready to play in front of an audience. Let me know and I'll teleport over this morning before the gig. I hope no one else is thinking of sitting in on Air Guitar.
I'm loading up my equipment right now and will be there soon.
You got the gig. I'll see you there Ski!
skiracer
10-21-2006, 09:20 AM
I'm loading up my equipment right now and will be there soon.
You got the gig. I'll see you there Ski!
Webs,
Very groovy man. I'm loading up my box right now and getting in the teleporter. I'll meet you backstage. Plenty of young groupies right.
Websman
10-21-2006, 09:44 AM
Webs,
Very groovy man. I'm loading up my box right now and getting in the teleporter. I'll meet you backstage. Plenty of young groupies right.
Sure...as long as you're not too picky....jejeje
I'm taking off right now. See ya!
dmk112
10-21-2006, 01:14 PM
I got ROBbed! Good job with GOOG. You should write GOOG on your forehead like Cramer.
Rob, stky & billy wonderful job you guys are huge. nice going
billyjoe
10-21-2006, 02:20 PM
Rob (Warren B.) and Sticky (boy wonder, Jimmy Olsen) you guys are on a roll. And it's not TR ( Tootsie Roll Ind. Inc. NYSE). Three wins in 6 weeks ? Unbelievable ! Rob, if I send you a dollar can you buy me a lottery ticket?
----------billyjoe
billyjoe
10-21-2006, 04:13 PM
Rob,
AES long. Thanks
spikefader
10-21-2006, 07:41 PM
Congrats Rob! Ttsss! Smokin hot form, dude.
Sticky is large too! Billyjoe; great comeback for bronze!
skiracer
10-21-2006, 11:20 PM
Rob,
SMSI - long please
Gwhiz
10-22-2006, 09:39 AM
Rob,
I'll take ERS long plz
Websman
10-22-2006, 11:53 AM
Rob,
I'll take ERS long plz
I hipe you win with ERS. I have it in my real portfolio... :)
Gwhiz
10-22-2006, 12:42 PM
Most likely going to add it to my real portfolio as well.
Any advice?
peanuts
10-22-2006, 12:53 PM
I have a picture of you on my wall. It is 8.36 feet tall . The picture alone weighs in at a whopping 240 lbs. There is no frame to hold it. It is simply, $$$HUUUUUGE$$$- just like the model. Great pick with GOOG, sir, and it's even better that I know you actually own it. :)
StkyTreat, billyjoe, you guys are big- certainly not as big as Mr. Rob, though. It is tough to be as HUGE as he is.
For this upcoming week, I would like to start with CUP, long please. Thank you very much, and keep up the great work. (that hologram is freaking me out, dude :p )
Gatorman
10-22-2006, 08:32 PM
Will take SVNT long.
skiracer
10-22-2006, 09:23 PM
I have a picture of you on my wall. It is 8.36 feet tall . The picture alone weighs in at a whopping 240 lbs. There is no frame to hold it. It is simply, $$$HUUUUUGE$$$- just like the model. Great pick with GOOG, sir, and it's even better that I know you actually own it. :)
StkyTreat, billyjoe, you guys are big- certainly not as big as Mr. Rob, though. It is tough to be as HUGE as he is.
For this upcoming week, I would like to start with CUP, long please. Thank you very much, and keep up the great work. (that hologram is freaking me out, dude :p )
You are such a brown noser.
Websman
10-22-2006, 09:37 PM
$$$cash$$$
Please Rob....
Lyehopper
10-22-2006, 11:17 PM
Huge win last week Rockin'Rob! http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/images/icons/icon14.gif And congrats to everyone finishing green.
I'll stick with my steel shorts this week.... Short Sell X
skiracer
10-22-2006, 11:30 PM
Most likely going to add it to my real portfolio as well.
Any advice?
Buy low, sell high.
jiesen
10-23-2006, 06:32 AM
Most likely going to add it to my real portfolio as well.
Any advice?
Put the money in a 3 year CD, and put the stock in your paper portfolio. Stick around here, and keep good track of your picks. If after 3 years, your paper port is doing better than the CD and the S&P, then go ahead and buy your picks. I believe you're a smart guy, but you're probably just too young to really know what you're doing yet. This is just my 2 cents- feel free to do with it what you like.;)
jiesen
10-23-2006, 06:40 AM
Rob:
Looks like you are trying to make a habit out of winning this thing.
Good Job!
Yeah, way to go Rob! That's 3 golds in 6 weeks! Sticky's shining too with 3 medals in 5 weeks... very impressive, both of you guys.
Congrats to Billyjoe for the bronze, too!
jiesen
10-23-2006, 06:59 AM
Rob, please put me in $$CASH$$ for now...
grebnet
10-23-2006, 07:15 AM
Ill try again with PACT
Rob please put me In MFRI-LONG have a good day
jiesen
10-23-2006, 10:18 AM
I'm going with AMLN long this week. Thanks, Rob!
riverbabe
10-23-2006, 10:29 AM
Hi Rob,
Okay, this week going with ESLR long please! (And all fingers crossed).
mimo_100
10-23-2006, 10:44 AM
Rob,
Statr me in CA$H Please.:)
Tim
jiesen
10-23-2006, 10:50 AM
Funny, but AMLN's CEO just rang the opening bell at the NASDAQ.
Rob would like to try FMD but will take IMCL long instead.
Quasi-Ernie goes long MTEX.
spikefader
10-23-2006, 11:17 AM
Long FRGB please Rob.
Darn...STEC gapped...well, I'll hold it for now...good luck all...gotta run...IIC
Gary611
10-23-2006, 11:39 AM
Great job Rob!!
BLUD long please.
Good luck to all!!!
-Gary
diogenes
10-23-2006, 11:55 AM
Start me with CA$H.
mimo_100
10-23-2006, 12:57 PM
Buy KHDH --
Thanks Rob
"It was a dark and stormy night..."How about this one? ...
"The sea was angry that day, my friends."
:)
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peanuts
10-23-2006, 06:18 PM
Mr. Rob, sir
Ameritrade lists CUP opening price at $3.90, Yahoo! Finance has it at your price of $2.01. I have known Yahoo! to be incorrect, before, but never you, great sire. Please confirm the opening price, thanks. :)
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billyjoe
10-23-2006, 06:40 PM
Rob,
I thought you still had GOOG ? The market gains today didn't translate to our picks very well .
--------billyjoe
dmk112
10-23-2006, 08:52 PM
Wow, could you believe GOOG...sheesh! I bet Cramer is ranting about him calling 550
Mr. Rob, sir
Ameritrade lists CUP opening price at $3.90, Yahoo! Finance has it at your price of $2.01. I have known Yahoo! to be incorrect, before, but never you, great sire. Please confirm the opening price, thanks. :)
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/7435/cup102306ie2.png
This is interesting...I looked at Yahoo and it says the open was 3.90 just now...However, Stockcharts.com and the American Stock Exchange both say 4.01....Maybe you should be dq'd Peanuts?...Sounds like manipulation ;)
I am brand new to Mr. Market. I am Rob's little sister, Mary. I'd like to get in on the POTW but I guess I have to wait until next week since the market is already closed today. Yes?
I am brand new to Mr. Market. I am Rob's little sister, Mary. I'd like to get in on the POTW but I guess I have to wait until next week since the market is already closed today. Yes?Hi, Mary. Welcome to the coolest forum in the universe. Yes, you must wait until after the close of the market Friday to post your pick for next week. I run this place with an iron fist in a velvet glove. No rule-bending, not even for family. :)
Ladies and gentlemen, this is indeed my younger sister. She lives in Sacramento. She owns stocks, but she's not really an "active" trader. Maybe with a little Mr. Market experience she might see things in a new light.
Welcome, Mary, and thanks in advance for not revealing any embarrassing moments from my questionable youth. :)
Yahoo! Finance has it at your price of $2.01. I have known Yahoo! to be incorrect, before, but never you, great sire. Please confirm the opening price, thanks.Mr. Goober Peas, there does appear to be some question about CUP's opening price. Let's see if by tomorrow the various listing services are in agreement. It's rather strange. It looks like 4.01 was the opening price on Fri., 10/20, and possibly somehow that got erroneously reported as today's opening price.
Rob,
I thought you still had GOOG ? The market gains today didn't translate to our picks very well .Of course I still own it. I just didn't play it in the POTW this week. It looks like I should have, being that it's up 4% from the open and 4.59% from Friday's close. The reason I didn't is because I was expecting a little selling pressure from profit-taking today. The fact that it continued to surge higher I find most encouraging.
Lyehopper
10-23-2006, 11:34 PM
I am brand new to Mr. Market. I am Rob's little sister, Mary. I'd like to get in on the POTW but I guess I have to wait until next week since the market is already closed today. Yes?
Welcome to this HUUUGE forum Mary!
btw, Your Brother "Rockin'Rob" is one of my personal friends and the best POTW scorekeeper ever.LOL!
Hey Rob.... I was out all afternoon but got your message today about the tickets. Call me tomorrow to nail down a plan for Fri.http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/images/icons/icon14.gif
I am brand new to Mr. Market. I am Rob's little sister, Mary. I'd like to get in on the POTW but I guess I have to wait until next week since the market is already closed today. Yes?
Welcome Aboard Mary...You must be good...Everybody knows the BEST Investors and Traders are in California...I'm in L.A....Not too active this week 'cause I'm outta town on vacation till Saturday night.
Best, Doug aka IIC aka Mr. Breakout aka Iceman aka (Well, since this is a Family rated forum I can't post what some here call me...LOL)
jiesen
10-24-2006, 06:34 AM
Here are the K-data (based on previous 13 weeks of POTW) results for weeks 29-41. It's ranked by "special K", or Cumulative Gain (%) / Weeks played.
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8186/weeks2941rg5.png
Weeks 5-17 (and 3-15) (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?t=655&page=562&pp=10)
Weeks 7-19 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?t=655&page=593)
Weeks 9-21 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=53126&highlight=special#post53126)
Weeks 11-23 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?t=655&page=644)
Weeks 13-25 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=56534&highlight=k-data#post56534)
Weeks 15-27 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showpost.php?p=58290&postcount=7068)
Weeks 17-29 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showpost.php?p=59735&postcount=7374)
Weeks 19-31 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showpost.php?p=60552&postcount=7485)
Weeks 21-33 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showpost.php?p=62010&postcount=7719)
Weeks 23-35 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showpost.php?p=63455&postcount=7953)
Weeks 25-37 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showpost.php?p=65032&postcount=8262)
Weeks 27-39 (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showpost.php?p=66155&postcount=8444)
DMK is HUGEagain, with the 35% racked up in week 30 still keeping him on top. But so is Rob, and since DMK's huge 35% will be falling off the scorecard next time, he's going to actually have to work to keep the title out of Rob's gold-loving hands going forward.
Rob, don't you wish your actual trading account would show a 45% increase each quarter? Because if you traded like you play this game, it would! (at least for this quarter)
Congrats also to each of the 9 who finished the 13 weeks of trading in the green. Webs, you're so close!:p
I apologize for being a week late with this one, but vacation is a necessity! Next time I promise to have it out earlier- I know you were all just dying to know the score... (or at least Karel was, maybe?)
Hey, Nut-dude, I have some good news and some bad news.
The good news is that the question of CUP's opening price for 10/23 appears to be the same now on Yahoo, Businessweek, and Ameritrade.
The bad news is that the $4.01 figure is correct.
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/6955/aoq4.png (http://imageshack.us)
[. . .] Rob's gold-loving hands [. . .]"Rob's gold-loving hands"? LOL ... well, I do like to win. Who doesn't?
Hey, Nut-dude, I have some good news and some bad news.
The good news is that the question of CUP's opening price for 10/23 appears to be the same now on Yahoo, Businessweek, and Ameritrade.
The bad news is that the $4.01 figure is correct.
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/6955/aoq4.png (http://imageshack.us)
"Rob's gold-loving hands"? LOL ... well, I do like to win. Who doesn't?
The exchange usually has it right on their site...Doug
peanuts
10-24-2006, 10:06 AM
Hey, Nut-dude, I have some good news and some bad news.
The good news is that the question of CUP's opening price for 10/23 appears to be the same now on Yahoo, Businessweek, and Ameritrade.
The bad news is that the $4.01 figure is correct...
Thanks for checking it out, Rob. I appreciate that. $0.11 is a big difference for CUP. I wanted it at $3.90 for the contest. The last 3 weeks I have gotten a good screwing on the opening price for my POTW... this was the worst, but it's pretty disheartening when you see this happen
BTW: Welcome, Mary, dudette! I can't wait to hear what Rob was like as a kid. :p
The last 3 weeks I have gotten [an undesirable effect based on] the opening price for my POTW...Happens to us all, Goob, happens to us all.
The exchange usually has it right on their site...DougIce, I've found that Businessweek.com is usually correct too, which, as you may recall, is why we switched to using it as opposed to Yahoo.
Lyehopper
10-24-2006, 11:46 AM
Cover X..... Buy CYBE
spikefader
10-24-2006, 01:38 PM
Sell FRGB and buy OMCL please, Rob.
Welcome, Mary, and thanks in advance for not revealing any embarrassing moments from my questionable youth. :)
Thanks. What questionable youth? In the immortal words of Sgt. Schultz, "I know nothing!" ;)
What questionable youth? In the immortal words of Sgt. Schultz, "I know nothing!" ;)Heh heh. Immortal words indeed. Ignorance is bliss and all that.
Call me tomorrow to nail down a plan for Fri.http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/images/icons/icon14.gifI called your cell and your home, and got an answer machine on both. I didn't leave a message. Give me a call. I don't think I'm going anywhere till 5:00, and it's too cold to work outside today. :)
To the rest of you runagates: forgive me for using the forum for a personal message. I'm sure you'll get over it. :)
Heh heh. Immortal words indeed. Ignorance is bliss and all that.
If there is any one person on this forum who doesn't have any questionable history, let him or her cast the first stone. :)
peanuts
10-24-2006, 04:18 PM
If there is any one person on this forum who doesn't have any questionable history, let him or her cast the first stone. :)
DUCK!!!! :D
I may not be able to get the scorecard up till late tonight or early tomorrow. Suffice it to say for now that the words "gee whiz" will likely be upon your lips when you see it. :)
Websman
10-24-2006, 09:24 PM
NXG - long
Please...
Gwhiz
10-24-2006, 09:53 PM
WEbsman,
I've been following NXG for the past few months and have traded it succesfully.
I currently own no shares.
But I have been waiting for gold to start another bull run, and as soon as that happens I plan to get into NXG because it seems to move very favorably compared to gold.
I was just wondering what you are seeing in NXG right now, and why you decided to go long.
Websman
10-24-2006, 10:08 PM
WEbsman,
I've been following NXG for the past few months and have traded it succesfully.
I currently own no shares.
But I have been waiting for gold to start another bull run, and as soon as that happens I plan to get into NXG because it seems to move very favorably compared to gold.
I was just wondering what you are seeing in NXG right now, and why you decided to go long.
I'm just looking for a quick gain for the POTW, but I'm not considering NXG for the Vulcan portfolio at this time.
I just read the rules for the POTW game and don't understand all of them because I'm not market-savvy like Rob and the rest of you. :confused:
1. I don't know what "long" and "short" means in the stock market -- unless it is as simple as "long" means buying a stock you intend to hold for an appreciable amount of time and "short" is buying a stock you intend to sell quickly to make some fast cash, like day-trading. If that's the case, then I don't understand how "long" and "short" work for a game like this.
2. Does this game continue from week to week so that new players start out at a disadvantage? Or is the game over at market close at the end of each week and a new game starts the following week?
3. My pick each week can be to buy OR sell a particular stock? If so, if my play is to sell a certain stock, I don't know how it would have the same potential as if my play is to buy a stock.
I think I may have more questions but I'm not sure yet.
Lyehopper
10-24-2006, 11:35 PM
I just read the rules for the POTW game and don't understand all of them because I'm not market-savvy like Rob and the rest of you. :confused:
1. I don't know what "long" and "short" means in the stock market -- unless it is as simple as "long" means buying a stock you intend to hold for an appreciable amount of time and "short" is buying a stock you intend to sell quickly to make some fast cash, like day-trading. If that's the case, then I don't understand how "long" and "short" work for a game like this.
2. Does this game continue from week to week so that new players start out at a disadvantage? Or is the game over at market close at the end of each week and a new game starts the following week?
3. My pick each week can be to buy OR sell a particular stock? If so, if my play is to sell a certain stock, I don't know how it would have the same potential as if my play is to buy a stock.
I think I may have more questions but I'm not sure yet.
Hey Mary.... To trade a stock "long" or "short" is not referring to a time frame.
In a long trade a stock is bought first and then sold to complete the trade. The goal is to buy low and sell higher.
In a short trade a stock is sold first (shorted or short-sold) then bought back "to cover" and complete the trade. The goal is to sell high then "cover" (buy back and repay) lower as the stock price falls and pocket the difference.
Now in order to short sell a stock you must have a margin account with your brokerage house because the shares are in reality borrowed on the front side of the trade from the broker and sold on the open market.... Then when you complete the trade you buy the shares back and pay back the borrowed shares (Margin is simply borrowed money that you pay interest on).
Click the link below to read a little discussion about short selling that occured on my thread a few months ago.
http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=59748
If there is any one person on this forum who doesn't have any questionable history, let him or her cast the first stone. :)
OK...I'll go first...
http://www.dougdockery.com/wp-content/throwing%20rock.jpg
Now what did he do??? ;) ...IIC
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/9991/aid3.png (http://imageshack.us)
Yeah, Mary, what Lyehopper told you is basically it. What he didn't tell you is that some folks consider short-selling evil, sort of like profiting on someone else's misfortune. I don't think it's "evil" really, but I don't often engage in it.
See, you're learning new stuff already.
Sell STEC...Buy LIFC....IIC
Lookin' for a Killer Conference Call...just started (LIFC)
Sell STEC...Buy LIFC....IICDoug, I'm feeling bad for you right now, because first you got whacked big time at the open Monday when STEC gapped up 8.1%. And just now, when you sold it to buy LIFC, you lost out on another couple percentage points.
If you don't mind (and even if you do I guess) I'm going to use your trades this week as an example to show exactly how the scoring works, in case some wonder why they don't get the buy price they thought they were getting when they made the switch. This graphic explains it.
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/5958/aqu6.png (http://imageshack.us)
Now while STEC is not really a thinly traded stock, this nevertheless illustrates the danger of playing thinly traded stocks in this contest, particularly so if it's your first play of the week. If you sell X to buy Y, Y will not be bought until X sells, and if X only trades 5 or 10 thousand shares a day, you could be waiting quite a spell for your switch to take place. Meanwhile Y could be getting more expensive by the minute.
Play smart. Play safe. Have fun. Love your scorekeeper. Send him your finest meats and cheeses.
Doug, I'm feeling bad for you right now, because first you got whacked big time at the open Monday when STEC gapped up 8.1%. And just now, when you sold it to buy LIFC, you lost out on another couple percentage points.
If you don't mind (and even if you do I guess) I'm going to use your trades this week as an example to show exactly how the scoring works, in case some wonder why they don't get the buy price they thought they were getting when they made the switch. This graphic explains it.
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/5958/aqu6.png (http://imageshack.us)
Now while STEC is not really a thinly traded stock, this nevertheless illustrates the danger of playing thinly traded stocks in this contest, particularly so if it's your first play of the week. If you sell X to buy Y, Y will not be bought until X sells, and if X only trades 5 or 10 thousand shares a day, you could be waiting quite a spell for your switch to take place. Meanwhile Y could be getting more expensive by the minute.
Play smart. Play safe. Have fun. Love your scorekeeper. Send him your finest meats and cheeses.
Bummer...Well, at least I know I called the bottom or close to it on LIFC...However, time and sales for Naz stocks is not accurate because not all trades go thru the Central system...My T & S shows that there was a 100 sh trade at 9:32am on STEC at 8.62...But no problem...Doug
Now in order to short sell a stock you must have a margin account with your brokerage house because the shares are in reality borrowed on the front side of the trade from the broker and sold on the open market.... Then when you complete the trade you buy the shares back and pay back the borrowed shares (Margin is simply borrowed money that you pay interest on).
So, it's kind of like borrowing money to gamble with? I'm not likely ever to do that in reality. So I probably won't do it when I get started in this game either.
Mary
Lyehopper
10-25-2006, 01:55 PM
So, it's kind of like borrowing money to gamble with? I'm not likely ever to do that in reality. So I probably won't do it when I get started in this game either.
Mary
You certainly can and should have enough ca$h in your account to cover the trade.... And you must have a certain amount of equity in the account or the brokerage won't let you borrow to short sell.... If you have ample ca$h on hand then technically you aren't borrowing anything. It's just the way the trade is structured, you must borrow shares on margin to sell short.
I don't look at investing (long or short) as "gambling" because I take calculated risks based on solid due diligence (FA, TA market and sector trends) when I trade, it's not just chance.... btw, Some of my most profitable trades have been short.... Definitely! my most devastating loses were all long trades.
Tatnic
10-25-2006, 02:17 PM
You certainly can and should have enough ca$h in your account to cover the trade.... And you must have a certain amount of equity in the account or the brokerage won't let you borrow to short sell.... If you have ample ca$h on hand then technically you aren't borrowing anything. It's just the way the trade is structured, you must borrow shares on margin to sell short.
I don't look at investing (long or short) as "gambling" because I take calculated risks based on solid due diligence (FA, TA market and sector trends) when I trade, it's not just chance.... btw, Some of my most profitable trades have been short.... Definitely! my most devastating loses were all long trades.
I'm curious as to why Mary or anyone else with no trading experience would even consider shorting or trading for that matter. Mary, you'd be better off letting a professional manage your money. A professional is someone manages other people's money for a living and gets paid for it....an amatuer investor is like most of us who trade our own money.
Lyehopper
10-25-2006, 02:26 PM
I'm curious as to why Mary or anyone else with no trading experience would even consider shorting or trading for that matter. Mary, you'd be better off letting a professional manage your money. A professional is someone manages other people's money for a living and gets paid for it....an amatuer investor is like most of us who trade our own money.
Ya gotta learn some how.... Plus Rockin'Rob is Mary's brother and he's a better trader than any "professional money manager" that I've seen. Plus he dosen't charge her a commission. ;)
skiracer
10-25-2006, 03:34 PM
Ya gotta learn some how.... Plus Rockin'Rob is Mary's brother and he's a better trader than any "professional money manager" that I've seen. Plus he dosen't charge her a commission. ;)
Trading for his sister would put alot of unnecessary and unneeded pressure on Rob. A few losing trades and you would see how it affects you believe me. I have three friends who follow my trades and have put their funds in with mine which I trade for them. It involves alot of money and I've made them alot of money but everytime I exit a trade that has breached my stop loss point or worse there is that feeling that you have to make that next one a winner and that they are looking over your shoulder. It's alot of pressure and these guys are nowhere near losing money over the past 8/9 years.
Rockin'Rob is [. . .] a better trader than any "professional money manager" that I've seen.I wish.
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I'm curious as to why Mary or anyone else with no trading experience would even consider shorting or trading for that matter. Mary, you'd be better off letting a professional manage your money. A professional is someone manages other people's money for a living and gets paid for it....an amatuer investor is like most of us who trade our own money.
My money IS being handled by a professional. The money I use for investing is not liquid. It is all within an IRA that was set up when a former employer discontinued it's profit sharing and pension plans ... plans in which I was 100% vested. When the plans were funded, my options were to re-invest it somehow or pay tax and a significant penalty for early withdrawal. So I rolled the money into an IRA which is held at an investment firm I chose because my twin sister is a registered sales assistant there for 4 of the brokers.
The funny (sad) thing is that most of the stocks and mutual funds I have in my portfolio (recommended by an "expert") are either flat or worth less than when I bought them. The only really significant profit I've made is eBay, which I wrote about in another thread. I made this buy decision on my own after hearing a radio talking head say, "Buy what you like." At that time, I was having a lot of fun buying and selling things on eBay. So I called my broker and asked, "Would eBay be a good buy right now?" He said yes and I bought some. It sold later due to a stop loss that was also recommended and my profit was in the area of 400%. I lost my socks on WorldCom (also recommended by an "expert.") My Intel stock is currently worth in the neighborhood of $8,000 to $10,000 less than when I bought it. I've had a few other success stories on stock sales but nothing to write home about. The biggest problem is that when I first converted the money in my IRA from a cash account to stock investments, it was only a couple of month before the stock market bubble burst. (2000? 2001?) So I'm still trying to earn back to the point of my initial investment.
I could be wrong but I feel like my broker ignores my account because the amount of money in my IRA is paltry compared to his clients who have hundreds of thousands (or millions) of dollars to play with. Also, if I have to pay a commission on each trade, I want the profit to end up in my account, not my broker's pocket.
I really went off on a tangent there. The bottom line is that my money is being managed by a professional and it will stay that way for as long as I don't feel like I'm knowledgeable enough to handle it myself.
Mary
http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/2985/aur8.png (http://imageshack.us)
Websman
10-25-2006, 06:22 PM
Way to go Gwhiz! I hope ERS keeps shooting out of sight. It's making my trading account look much better!
Websman
10-25-2006, 06:23 PM
What's this? I just entered a pick this morning and I'm already in 3rd place???
Looks like the VTP is getting better all the time...
What's this? I just entered a pick this morning and I'm already in 3rd place???
Looks like the VTP is getting better all the time...
I guess miracles do happen.. ;)
Websman
10-25-2006, 06:40 PM
I guess miracles do happen.. ;)
The VTP could be considered as a miracle from the Vulcan Gods...The VTP will soon become known as the most successful yet most secretive stock picking method in the world.
My money IS being handled by a professional. The money I use for investing is not liquid. It is all within an IRA that was set up when a former employer discontinued it's profit sharing and pension plans ... plans in which I was 100% vested. When the plans were funded, my options were to re-invest it somehow or pay tax and a significant penalty for early withdrawal. So I rolled the money into an IRA which is held at an investment firm I chose because my twin sister is a registered sales assistant there for 4 of the brokers.
The funny (sad) thing is that most of the stocks and mutual funds I have in my portfolio (recommended by an "expert") are either flat or worth less than when I bought them. The only really significant profit I've made is eBay, which I wrote about in another thread. I made this buy decision on my own after hearing a radio talking head say, "Buy what you like." At that time, I was having a lot of fun buying and selling things on eBay. So I called my broker and asked, "Would eBay be a good buy right now?" He said yes and I bought some. It sold later due to a stop loss that was also recommended and my profit was in the area of 400%. I lost my socks on WorldCom (also recommended by an "expert.") My Intel stock is currently worth in the neighborhood of $8,000 to $10,000 less than when I bought it. I've had a few other success stories on stock sales but nothing to write home about. The biggest problem is that when I first converted the money in my IRA from a cash account to stock investments, it was only a couple of month before the stock market bubble burst. (2000? 2001?) So I'm still trying to earn back to the point of my initial investment.
I could be wrong but I feel like my broker ignores my account because the amount of money in my IRA is paltry compared to his clients who have hundreds of thousands (or millions) of dollars to play with. Also, if I have to pay a commission on each trade, I want the profit to end up in my account, not my broker's pocket.
I really went off on a tangent there. The bottom line is that my money is being managed by a professional and it will stay that way for as long as I don't feel like I'm knowledgeable enough to handle it myself.
Mary
"Professional" is a subjective term. You don't want to hear what I think of investment professionals...My recommendation to you is to roll your money out of this firm as soon as possible.
First of all you put your money w/ that firm for a very bad reason...Why would you think they were any good because your sister worked there?
Second of all, if you feel they are ignoring you...Then I'm sure they are.
Thirdly, any investment professional who was even mediocre should have earned you a minimum of 12% yr in a conservative account over the last 7 years.
Lastly, forget professionals...There may be a few good ones, but IMO the whole industry is rampant with inept managers and crooks. Becoming an investment professional is one of the easiest fields to enter...Designations are virtually meaningless in the investment field...Results are what counts.
I strongly recommend that you close that account and roll it over into IRA CD's until you figure out what you really should be investing in...Even 5% a year is better than losing.
Your story reminds me of my Dad's neighbor who is a widow...She had a portfolio manager handling her entire retirement fund...She didn't ask for help until over 60% of it was gone. I know a younger guy that invested 80 grand in a managed portfolio a few years back...My question to him was "Why did you wait until your account was worth only 9,000 before you closed it"?...His answer was that this manager was supposed to be very good...Actually, I can think of many horror stories...Hope you do not become one of them...Best, Doug(IIC)
The VTP could be considered as a miracle from the Vulcan Gods...The VTP will soon become known as the most successful yet most secretive stock picking method in the world.
Yeah Webs...I'm really a billionaire...But lets keep that a little secret just between you and I...IIC
GWIZ, GWIZ nice find your not a wizzard are you from the land of OZ:confused::confused::confused:
Websman
10-25-2006, 07:08 PM
Yeah Webs...I'm really a billionaire...But lets keep that a little secret just between you and I...IIC
Money is not what makes a successful Vulcan...
...But lets keep that a little secret just between you and I...IIC
lets = let's
between you and I = between you and me
;)
First of all you put your money w/ that firm for a very bad reason...Why would you think they were any good because your sister worked there?
Because they're a well-known, nationwide firm too. I'm sure you've heard of Smith Barney.
I remember once telling my sister that I was considering selling my entire portfolio and opening a CD account. I forget what the guaranteed return was at the time, but she put the broker on the line who talked me out of it because of the earning "potential" I have where I'm not, rather than be locked into a set percentage. I got suckered by the sales pitch, I guess. I think tomorrow I'll check with the credit union where I do my banking to see what kind of IRA CD rates they have going ... or ... perhaps I can look now, as they might have it posted on their web site.
Mary
:o
Because they're a well-known, nationwide firm too. I'm sure you've heard of Smith Barney.
I remember once telling my sister that I was considering selling my entire portfolio and opening a CD account. I forget what the guaranteed return was at the time, but she put the broker on the line who talked me out of it because of the earning "potential" I have where I'm not, rather than be locked into a set percentage. I got suckered by the sales pitch, I guess. I think tomorrow I'll check with the credit union where I do my banking to see what kind of IRA CD rates they have going ... or ... perhaps I can look now, as they might have it posted on their web site.
Mary
:o
Oops! I meant to say "... where I'm at ..."
skiracer
10-25-2006, 09:28 PM
Because they're a well-known, nationwide firm too. I'm sure you've heard of Smith Barney.
I remember once telling my sister that I was considering selling my entire portfolio and opening a CD account. I forget what the guaranteed return was at the time, but she put the broker on the line who talked me out of it because of the earning "potential" I have where I'm not, rather than be locked into a set percentage. I got suckered by the sales pitch, I guess. I think tomorrow I'll check with the credit union where I do my banking to see what kind of IRA CD rates they have going ... or ... perhaps I can look now, as they might have it posted on their web site.
Mary
:o
Mary,
Exercise a little patience and spend some time just listening to the stock talk going on here and while you're at it try to read a book or two about trading and the basics of researching for stocks on your own. Any questions you might have will get answered pronto here. If you do come up with a pick run it by everyone here to get several opinions and then base your decision on that. There's no need to start off with big money or share trades. Just start making a few smaller trades, 10 or 20 shares of something you like for whatever reasons, and get your feet wet that way. In time you will start to feel comfortable and you will have eased into it in a subtle way. There is a wealth of knowledge here that will steer you in the right direction or at least give you the pros and cons of what you might be considering. But at this point I wouldn't let anyone else manage what money you have left. It's just as easy to lose it for yourself on your own. Exercise patience, there is no rush to do anything until you feel comfortable knowing all the parameters. As everywhere there will be people here who will try to push their ideas on you. Absorb what is good and fits for you and filter out the rest. It's just like picking stocks. But exercise patience and don't rush into anything especially another money manager or managed fund. Good luck.
lets = let's
between you and I = between you and me
;)
Thx Mr. Grammar...IIC
Mary,
Exercise a little patience and spend some time just listening to the stock talk going on here and while you're at it try to read a book or two about trading and the basics of researching for stocks on your own. Any questions you might have will get answered pronto here. If you do come up with a pick run it by everyone here to get several opinions and then base your decision on that. There's no need to start off with big money or share trades. Just start making a few smaller trades, 10 or 20 shares of something you like for whatever reasons, and get your feet wet that way. In time you will start to feel comfortable and you will have eased into it in a subtle way. There is a wealth of knowledge here that will steer you in the right direction or at least give you the pros and cons of what you might be considering. But at this point I wouldn't let anyone else manage what money you have left. It's just as easy to lose it for yourself on your own. Exercise patience, there is no rush to do anything until you feel comfortable knowing all the parameters. As everywhere there will be people here who will try to push their ideas on you. Absorb what is good and fits for you and filter out the rest. It's just like picking stocks. But exercise patience and don't rush into anything especially another money manager or managed fund. Good luck.
That's why I said to roll it over to CD's until she decides what she wants to do w/ her money...I'm not recommending CD's as a long term strategy...But at least she would make some and not have to worry about it until she decides on something else.
Mary...to expand upon what Ski is talking about...I agree that you can learn something from others here...BUT, please be cautious...I'd suggest that you try and pick up on concepts rather than actual pix.
I have been investing since the late 60's and been serious about investing since '83. I starting joining forums in 1997-98...I ran across some smart cookies around 2000...But trying to duplicate what they were doing never worked.
My whole point is...Pick up on concepts, theory, ideas etc...Set your goals and develop a style that you are comfortable with. Sure, you'll pick up on some stocks that others mention that fit your criteria...But please don't attempt to copy anyone...It won't work unless you can be in constant contact w/ them via IM or telephone...Best, Doug
Websman
10-25-2006, 10:19 PM
I wonder is Mary has ever heard of the VTP?
I wonder is Mary has ever heard of the VTP?
Webs...I have a question about your site. What does "loose its effectiveness" mean???
Websman
10-25-2006, 10:48 PM
Webs...I have a question about your site. What does "loose its effectiveness" mean???
It's a Vulcan thing...You wouldn't understand.
Skiracer & Iceman, thanks for the sage advice you gave to Mary. It sounds good to me. Money management can be a tricky and perilous endeavor. A good, working knowledge of market forces, the fear and greed that drive markets, the companies one invests in, etc., are a person's best defensive weapon against devastating capital losses—and even then there are no guarantees. Anyone who invests their own money in the stock market without first doing some homework and educating themselves is taking a far greater risk than one who has made that additional effort.
This POTW contest is a fun—and safe—way for one to test his or her investing ideas. Personally I would like to see people include their reasons behind their picks more often, as that would make it an even greater learning experience. But I nevertheless view this contest as a fun and very worthwhile diversion. It forces you to do your homework, and this results in a better understanding of the markets. And a better understanding of the markets heightens your ability to successfully manage your real-life nest egg. What else are you going to do with your time? Watch Laverne & Shirley reruns?
mimo_100
10-26-2006, 09:27 AM
Skiracer & Iceman, thanks for the sage advice you gave to Mary. It sounds good to me. Money management can be a tricky and perilous endeavor. A good, working knowledge of market forces, the fear and greed that drive markets, the companies one invests in, etc., are a person's best defensive weapon against devastating capital losses—and even then there are no guarantees. Anyone who invests their own money in the stock market without first doing some homework and educating themselves is taking a far greater risk than one who has made that additional effort.
This POTW contest is a fun—and safe—way for one to test his or her investing ideas. Personally I would like to see people include their reasons behind their picks more often, as that would make it an even greater learning experience. But I nevertheless view this contest as a fun and very worthwhile diversion. It forces you to do your homework, and this results in a better understanding of the markets. And a better understanding of the markets heightens your ability to successfully manage your real-life nest egg. What else are you going to do with your time? Watch Laverne & Shirley reruns?Rob
You wrote: "... Personally I would like to see people include their reasons behind their picks more often,..."
At various times, I posted similar words. From time to time, I have
shared various calculations that I use. I think that, after talking to people
around me, some [people] believe that their “picking system” is better than anyone around, so they do not want to “give” it away. I am a team person. I do not have all the answers. But I am willing to carry my share of the load if the end result is something good. What do you think?
riverbabe
10-26-2006, 10:45 AM
Hi Rob,
Please take me out of ESLR and put me into MSFT! Thank you!
But I am willing to carry my share of the load if the end result is something good. What do you think?Naturally I agree. Anyone that follows my Rob's Lobs thread has seen lots of info. on why I like ImClone, Google, and eBay, as well as some others. I will sometimes post my reasoning behind my picks here as well, though in a more abbreviated fashion.
If people don't want to post their reasons for their picks, for whatever their reasons are, well that's their prerogative. But we could all learn more from each other if people would simply say why they like this or that stock. That can be done without giving away the store.
peanuts
10-26-2006, 11:12 AM
Naturally I agree. Anyone that follows my Rob's Lobs thread has seen lots of info. on why I like ImClone, Google, and eBay, as well as some others. I will sometimes post my reasoning behind my picks here as well, though in a more abbreviated fashion.
If people don't want to post their reasons for their picks, for whatever their reasons are, well that's their prerogative. But we could all learn more from each other if people would simply say why they like this or that stock. That can be done without giving away the store.
I picked CUP because someone told me the cup and handles breakout all the time :p
nah... I liked copper stocks this weak, so I picked the one that I thought could make a major move. I still have 2 days
What has become of Karel? This is the second week he's failed to enter a pick in the POTW. That's not like him.
Edit: I just checked his profile, and it shows his last activity as 10/13/2006 3:22 a.m. I hope nothing bad has happened to him.
For cryin' out loud, Gwhiz! Cut us some slack! Will ya?
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Websman
10-26-2006, 06:45 PM
YESSS!!!! Gwhiz!!!
DUDE!!!!!!
ERS is Rockin'!!!!!
I'm still holding this baby in my real portfolio!!!
Gwhiz enough already HUGE pick. guess I better start working on next weeks pick:)
What has become of Karel? This is the second week he's failed to enter a pick in the POTW. That's not like him.
Edit: I just checked his profile, and it shows his last activity as 10/13/2006 3:22 a.m. I hope nothing bad has happened to him.
I'm not positive...But I think Karel said something about being busy for a while???
I'm not positive...But I think Karel said something about being busy for a while???
Maybe it was my imagination...But I did a search back to 10/1 and didn't find that he posted anything like that.
If anyone would know it would be Ernie...
Mr. M: Where's Karel???
Tatnic
10-27-2006, 08:43 AM
My money IS being handled by a professional. The money I use for investing is not liquid. It is all within an IRA that was set up when a former employer discontinued it's profit sharing and pension plans ... plans in which I was 100% vested. When the plans were funded, my options were to re-invest it somehow or pay tax and a significant penalty for early withdrawal. So I rolled the money into an IRA which is held at an investment firm I chose because my twin sister is a registered sales assistant there for 4 of the brokers.
The funny (sad) thing is that most of the stocks and mutual funds I have in my portfolio (recommended by an "expert") are either flat or worth less than when I bought them. The only really significant profit I've made is eBay, which I wrote about in another thread. I made this buy decision on my own after hearing a radio talking head say, "Buy what you like." At that time, I was having a lot of fun buying and selling things on eBay. So I called my broker and asked, "Would eBay be a good buy right now?" He said yes and I bought some. It sold later due to a stop loss that was also recommended and my profit was in the area of 400%. I lost my socks on WorldCom (also recommended by an "expert.") My Intel stock is currently worth in the neighborhood of $8,000 to $10,000 less than when I bought it. I've had a few other success stories on stock sales but nothing to write home about. The biggest problem is that when I first converted the money in my IRA from a cash account to stock investments, it was only a couple of month before the stock market bubble burst. (2000? 2001?) So I'm still trying to earn back to the point of my initial investment.
I could be wrong but I feel like my broker ignores my account because the amount of money in my IRA is paltry compared to his clients who have hundreds of thousands (or millions) of dollars to play with. Also, if I have to pay a commission on each trade, I want the profit to end up in my account, not my broker's pocket.
I really went off on a tangent there. The bottom line is that my money is being managed by a professional and it will stay that way for as long as I don't feel like I'm knowledgeable enough to handle it myself.
Mary
Assuming you have better things to do Mary, here's a simple portfolio mix of stocks and bonds that can be adjusted quarterly, taken from Swenson's Book Unconventional Success:
30% U.S. Equities (Vanguard has no-load mutual funds that makes this simple, or Income Fund of America is another good one but its a heavy up-front load and much higher maintenance fees. Vanguard is a non-profit and has no upfront fee and very small management fees.);
20% Real Estate...any good REIT or if you want to say you have that in your house already that's cool, but I'm assuming your investable funds are liquid and don't include your house.
15% Foriegn developed equities..again, VAnguard has a no-load fund.
5% emerging market equities...vanguard.
15% U.S. Treasury bonds
15% U.S. Treasury Inflation protected securities (or commonly called TIPS)
Then after 3 months or so, lets say the stock market has a correction and the and the original US equities portion is only 27% of the portfolio, and the US Treasuries are 33%. You'd sell the treasuries and buy the equities so they're back in balance. That way you're buying cheap and selling expensive and more importantly you don't have one stock that can wipe you out like WCOM.
Or you could chase hot stocks here until you've totally wrecked your accounts. By chasing I mean buy them when you're very excited (usually at their highs) and sell them when you're bummed out (usually at their lows). That's human nature and hard to avoid.
Tatnic
10-27-2006, 08:52 AM
Assuming you have better things to do Mary, here's a simple portfolio mix of stocks and bonds that can be adjusted quarterly, taken from Swenson's Book Unconventional Success:
30% U.S. Equities (Vanguard has no-load mutual funds that makes this simple, or Income Fund of America is another good one but its a heavy up-front load and much higher maintenance fees. Vanguard is a non-profit and has no upfront fee and very small management fees.);.
I forgot to add that those Vanguard funds would be stock index funds that mimic whatever index they're tied to and are the so-called bench marks that other for-profit funds (and money managers too) compare themselves to...I'm sure you've heard those comparisons: "we beat the market by 1/2% pt last year"...what they don't tell you is that they milked over 5% of the fund's assest and plowed them into their yachts and third homes in Vale. Or you've got companies that basically practice naked shorting by issueing options to top management that are immediately excercised and sold at a huge mark-up...the options and therefore the stock are fabricated out of thin air...and this is legal.
Oops! I originally posted the following in the "Rob's Lobs" thread. So I deleted it from there and am re-posting it here.
I haven't learned how to do all the research yet, so just to get my feet wet in this game and see how I do the first week, I'll pick eBay long because, in reality, that's the stock I've done best with since I've had some of my IRA money invested in stocks.
Thanks for your advice, Tatnic. Some of what you said is still too "shop talky" for me. I've been posting quite a bit during my first few days here and much of it is not related to investing. I guess I should try to keep those kind of messages to a minimum? I intend to hang around here for awhile, whether I post or not, and try to soak up some of the knowledge.
peanuts
10-27-2006, 04:42 PM
Oops! I originally posted the following in the "Rob's Lobs" thread. So I deleted it from there and am re-posting it here.
I haven't learned how to do all the research yet, so just to get my feet wet in this game and see how I do the first week, I'll pick eBay long because, in reality, that's the stock I've done best with since I've had some of my IRA money invested in stocks.
Mary, you rebel you, already causing touble here... Here's the rules: RULES (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showpost.php?p=53049)
As requested before, please read, then post.
POTW starts at the beginning of the week. Last time I checked, that was Monday, not Friday :)
I would suggest that you enter your pick after the market closes today (4 pm EST) so that you are meeting the guidelines of the contest. And actually, it may be better for you to wait until you get to do some weekend research as well, then post on Sunday... just a thought
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Websman
10-27-2006, 06:18 PM
Nice job Gwhiz and Rob!
This is one time that I'm glad that the winner beat me since I'm holding ERS in my portfolio. :)
Mary, you rebel you, already causing touble here... Here's the rules: RULES (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showpost.php?p=53049)
As requested before, please read, then post.
POTW starts at the beginning of the week. Last time I checked, that was Monday, not Friday :)
I would suggest that you enter your pick after the market closes today (4 pm EST) so that you are meeting the guidelines of the contest. And actually, it may be better for you to wait until you get to do some weekend research as well, then post on Sunday... just a thought
Hmmmmm.....
Well, the rules say, "Enter your stock pick (long or short) or enter a cash position, no later than 3:59 p.m. Eastern on the first day of the trading week, to be entered into the contest." I entered my stock pick "no later than 3:59 Eastern on the first day of the trading week," did I not? I'm not going to do any research this weekend. Too busy with other stuff. So, if you want me to make my pick after the market closes today -- and it's closed now -- my pick is still eBay. After I've spent more time here absorbing the intelligence, then I'll do some research before playing this game.
Incidentally, I've been working for lawyers since 1985. I know how to parse words with the best of them. ;)
The rules (at least rule #1) do not state how early the pick can be made. Rule #1 only states that the pick must be made before the market closes on Monday. Soon as I post this thread, I'm going to go look again at the rest of the rules.
I see that I did break this rule: "All picks must be entered after the market closes on the last day of the trading week (usually Friday) and prior to the market close on the first day of the next trading week (usually Monday—see rule #1 above)." My apologies. It won't happen again. :o
skiracer
10-27-2006, 07:46 PM
I see that I did break this rule: "All picks must be entered after the market closes on the last day of the trading week (usually Friday) and prior to the market close on the first day of the next trading week (usually Monday—see rule #1 above)." My apologies. It won't happen again. :o
The last person that did what you've done is now pushing daisies up somewhere in Uganda. Rob will be the first one to tell you that you, "must read the rules". Jeez he has that sign right there on the front page of the POTW thread. Mary, are you a troublemaker? Lyehopper and Websman both said that they thought that Rob's little sister might be a trouble maker and that she liked square dancing. Well you've already broken one of Rob's cardinal rules and you have kind of disagreed somewhat with his profanity request. Are you sure you're not a troublemaker? Rob, what's going on here?
The last person that did what you've done is now pushing daisies up somewhere in Uganda. Rob will be the first one to tell you that you, "must read the rules". Jeez he has that sign right there on the front page of the POTW thread. Mary, are you a troublemaker? Lyehopper and Websman both said that they thought that Rob's little sister might be a trouble maker and that she liked square dancing. Well you've already broken one of Rob's cardinal rules and you have kind of disagreed somewhat with his profanity request. Are you sure you're not a troublemaker? Rob, what's going on here?
Methinks you may be the troublemaker, trying to stir up trouble where there isn't any. Rob emailed me privately and told me of the rule I broke. Square dancing???? I haven't square danced since I was 10 years old and we had a one-week unit of square dancing in my 5th grade class. What I do is country western dancing, which is a different animal. Why, oh why, does everyone ask me about square dancing when I don't square dance??? Um, I don't disagree with Rob's profanity request. I think if it really bothers him (and I believe it does) and he has humbly requested that it be kept to a minimum, I think it would be nice if everyone did keep it to a minimum. When I said I wasn't bothered by it as much, I added the caveat that I probably haven't seen as much as he has because of how new I am to $$$Mr. Market$$$.
Methinks you may be the troublemaker, trying to stir up trouble where there isn't any. Rob emailed me privately and told me of the rule I broke. Square dancing???? I haven't square danced since I was 10 years old and we had a one-week unit of square dancing in my 5th grade class. What I do is country western dancing, which is a different animal. Why, oh why, does everyone ask me about square dancing when I don't square dance??? Um, I don't disagree with Rob's profanity request. I think if it really bothers him (and I believe it does) and he has humbly requested that it be kept to a minimum, I think it would be nice if everyone did keep it to a minimum. When I said I wasn't bothered by it as much, I added the caveat that I probably haven't seen as much as he has because of how new I am to $$$Mr. Market$$$.
Yes Mary...Ski is a troublemaker...lol
Hey, I have an idea...Why don't you take up square dancing???...Doug(IIC)
alice4321us
10-28-2006, 06:03 AM
I am taking MTEX long next week.
Gary611
10-28-2006, 11:55 AM
Ask any Canuck-le head who makes the best donuts & coffee & they (as well as me) will tell you to go to 'Timmy's.'
THI long please Rob
Congrats to all of last weeks' winners!
-Gary
billyjoe
10-28-2006, 12:14 PM
Gwhiz,Rob,Webs,
Congratuations again. If Gwhiz and Sticky start doing good every week we'll have to move them to the "junior" division to avoid embarrassment.
--------------billyjoe
billyjoe
10-28-2006, 12:19 PM
Rob,
You might think this is a lot of hot air, but I'll stick with wind power giant AES...long. Thanks
------------billyjoe
skiracer
10-28-2006, 12:59 PM
HWCC - long please Rob. And congratulations Whiz. Nice pick last week.
Gwhiz, congratulations on a spectacular performance last week! You deserved a good write-up, but I was in a foul mood, and I'm sorry about that. ERS was a HUGE pick, Dude!
Webs, congrats to you too on the bronze. I don't know if you were watching real-time, but IMCL and NXG were in a see-saw battle for second place there for a while.
After careful consideration I've decided to continue keeping score for the time being. I really felt like passing the torch, due to certain circumstances of which some of you are aware.
What it comes down to, meatphorically speaking—and it really is as simple as this—is that I only like breathing clean air.
peanuts
10-28-2006, 01:21 PM
As usual, I would first like to congratulate our latest $$$HUUUUGE$$$ member, GWhiz on a fine showing of hugeness this week with a long position in ERS. Way to go, Whizzy, you are $$$HUUUUUUGE$$$
Rob, Webs, well, you guys are BIG. How's that?
Mr. Rob, For next week, I would like to start with a short position in THC
Tenet Healthcare is the owner of the hospital in which doctors were "mercy-killing" patients in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina. Remember all the news stories about this, and then silence? Well.... I didn't forget. These guys are putting themselves up for sale. It seem that every week something else gets liquidated. These guys need cash, badly. So, I picked THC short for several reasons: 1) what I just said 2) heathcare stocks are not doing well in the market recently 3) I think the overall market needs to cool off a bit 4) I'm always short on the THC
Maybe I'll be lucky this week, and they will fall off the cliff.
skiracer
10-28-2006, 01:29 PM
Methinks you may be the troublemaker, trying to stir up trouble where there isn't any. Rob emailed me privately and told me of the rule I broke. Square dancing???? I haven't square danced since I was 10 years old and we had a one-week unit of square dancing in my 5th grade class. What I do is country western dancing, which is a different animal. Why, oh why, does everyone ask me about square dancing when I don't square dance??? Um, I don't disagree with Rob's profanity request. I think if it really bothers him (and I believe it does) and he has humbly requested that it be kept to a minimum, I think it would be nice if everyone did keep it to a minimum. When I said I wasn't bothered by it as much, I added the caveat that I probably haven't seen as much as he has because of how new I am to $$$Mr. Market$$$.
Maybe a little but not anymore than anyone else here. Just trying to make you feel at home.
skiracer
10-28-2006, 01:44 PM
Whiz,
Were you thinking of HWCC this week for the POTW? Here's one that I was going to play myself but think it may need another day to finish off this last drop before moving further up. ICON long.
Congrats to Gwhiz, Rob and Webs...Doug(IIC)
diogenes
10-28-2006, 01:53 PM
Congrats to the top 3!
Peter Hansen
10-28-2006, 02:34 PM
WOW..........Been down so long........it seems like up to me BRCL Long! Thank YOU
skiracer
10-28-2006, 02:48 PM
Whiz,
Were you thinking of HWCC this week for the POTW? Here's one that I was going to play myself but think it may need another day to finish off this last drop before moving further up. ICON long.
Thought this might be confusing Rob. ICON was just a suggestion to Whiz about a possible long play but not my pick for the POTW.
Gwhiz
10-28-2006, 05:33 PM
Congrats to everyone in the green
Thanks for keeping score Rob.
URZ long plz.
peanuts
10-28-2006, 05:52 PM
Conspicuous by their absence this week are: Curly, The Beer-drinking Dart-thrower, Biff Clemens, Colossal Karel, and Citizen Kane.
And what the heck ever happened to Scifos? He gets married and he's never heard from again. His honeymoon must've been either really good or really bad!
Where IS Scifos?
This confirms all my fears of commitment... that's it, I'm NEVER getting married!
JohnHenry
10-28-2006, 05:56 PM
Congrats to Gwhiz, Rob, Webman, and everyone in the green.
Nice pick Gwhiz!
New-born baby
10-28-2006, 08:30 PM
Where IS Scifos?
This confirms all my fears of commitment... that's it, I'm NEVER getting married!
Don't be crazy. Have you ever smelled a bachelor's pad? Seen how those guys look like an unmade bed all the time? Eaten their (what shall I call it?) "cooking?"
The secret is this, Peanuts: Be the man of your house. If you wear the pants in your house, everybody will be happy. If not, everyone will be unhappy. It is that simple.
Whenever a man gets married, I tell him this: you have one year to establish who is boss in your home. The patterns established that first year will most likely stay with your home until you die. So get it right now.
By the way: perfume beats B.O. hands down, for my money :D
Websman
10-28-2006, 10:25 PM
Don't be crazy. Have you ever smelled a bachelor's pad? Seen how those guys look like an unmade bed all the time? Eaten their (what shall I call it?) "cooking?"
The secret is this, Peanuts: Be the man of your house. If you wear the pants in your house, everybody will be happy. If not, everyone will be unhappy. It is that simple.
Whenever a man gets married, I tell him this: you have one year to establish who is boss in your home. The patterns established that first year will most likely stay with your home until you die. So get it right now.
By the way: perfume beats B.O. hands down, for my money :D
I wear the pants in my family...as long as my wife says it's Ok...
New-born baby
10-28-2006, 10:51 PM
I wear the pants in my family...as long as my wife says it's Ok...
Are you saying that the Vulcan hand greeting that your avatar displays is really a surrender sign? :D
diogenes
10-28-2006, 11:24 PM
Start me with Ca$h, i.e., USD.
New-born baby
10-28-2006, 11:25 PM
Start me off in CA$$$$H, please :D
Websman
10-29-2006, 11:17 AM
Are you saying that the Vulcan hand greeting that your avatar displays is really a surrender sign? :D
To my wife it is...
riverbabe
10-29-2006, 01:01 PM
Hi Rob,
SAI long one more time! Come to Mama, momos please! river
billyjoe
10-29-2006, 01:29 PM
Hi Rob,
SAI long one more time! Come to Mama, momos please! river
River,
Hope you do well with SAI. Did your investment group buy any? My wife and I got it in our IRA accounts the day it went public and when it dropped a few cents under our entry I bought it again in another retirement account. Just checked and am up 12.13%, 11.81%, and 14.89% in a very short time period.
------------billyjoe
mimo_100
10-29-2006, 01:48 PM
Thanks Rob for all of your hard work in this thread.
Start me up in FTEK:)
This confirms all my fears of commitment... that's it, I'm NEVER getting married!
You have to find someone willing to marry you Peanuts ;)
peanuts
10-29-2006, 02:09 PM
You have to find someone willing to marry you Peanuts ;)
I honestly laughed out load with that, Doug. You've got a great point. I need to find a blind deaf mute :D
Don't be crazy. Have you ever smelled a bachelor's pad? Seen how those guys look like an unmade bed all the time? Eaten their (what shall I call it?) "cooking?"
The secret is this, Peanuts: Be the man of your house. If you wear the pants in your house, everybody will be happy. If not, everyone will be unhappy. It is that simple.
Whenever a man gets married, I tell him this: you have one year to establish who is boss in your home. The patterns established that first year will most likely stay with your home until you die. So get it right now.
By the way: perfume beats B.O. hands down, for my money :D
Obviously you don't know too much about women...You let them think they are the boss. You do this by letting them make most of the minor decisions...Then when a major decision comes along and you take a stand they don't feel like you boss them around all the time...In fact, you can claim that you never get your way so they give in.
Here's another little tip...I used to volunteer to vaccum, make the bed etc...But I always did a crummy job...So now I never get asked.
Watch for IIC's "How To Please Women" tips on future posts...Doug
peanuts
10-29-2006, 02:31 PM
Obviously you don't know too much about women...You let them think they are the boss. You do this by letting them make most of the minor decisions...Then when a major decision comes along and you take a stand they don't feel like you boss them around all the time...In fact, you can claim that you never get your way so they give in.
Here's another little tip...I used to volunteer to vaccum, make the bed etc...But I always did a crummy job...So now I never get asked.
Watch for IIC's "How To Please Women" tips on future posts...Doug
Doug, this is just my opinion, and I'm not passing any kind of judgement on you, but I think what you just explained is a relationship which is centered around deception. That type of thing in the short term may make things 'easy', but in the long run it will show how detrimental it actually was when things really start to matter.
In my life, Doug, I surround myself with people that tell me exactly how it is. You can put as much lipstick on a pig as possible, but no matter how good you make it seem, it's still a pig.
It is selfish to make a decision that affects more than just you without at least consulting the other person (people) involved.
btw: Doug, you please everyone by giving them the respect the are due. Respect your partner, and she'll be happy
skiracer
10-29-2006, 02:44 PM
Doug, this is just my opinion, and I'm not passing any kind of judgement on you, but I think what you just explained is a relationship which is centered around deception. That type of thing in the short term may make things 'easy', but in the long run it will show how detrimental it actually was when things really start to matter.
In my life, Doug, I surround myself with people that tell me exactly how it is. You can put as much lipstick on a pig as possible, but no matter how good you make it seem, it's still a pig.
It is selfish to make a decision that affects more than just you without at least consulting the other person (people) involved.
btw: Doug, you please everyone by giving them the respect the are due. Respect your partner, and she'll be happy
It would be great if it worked exactly the way that you stated Peanuts. We all start out that way and try to maintain that status but talk to us after you've been married 5,10,15,20, 25,30 years and see how the relationship between a man and a woman evolves. I wouldn't call it deception. I would call it give and take on both parts in a working and continuing relationship. I would never say from what Doug just stated that he doesn't respect his wife or is basing his relationship on deceit. Live with a woman in close quarters for a long time an see how you and your personality evolves.
peanuts
10-29-2006, 03:01 PM
It would be great if it worked exactly the way that you stated Peanuts. We all start out that way and try to maintain that status but talk to us after you've been married 5,10,15,20, 25,30 years and see how the relationship between a man and a woman evolves. I wouldn't call it deception. I would call it give and take on both parts in a working and continuing relationship. I would never say from what Doug just stated that he doesn't respect his wife or is basing his relationship on deceit. Live with a woman in close quarters for a long time an see how you and your personality evolves.
I didn't mean that I though Doug did not respect his partner. He mentioned that he was going to post ways to make women happy. I was giving him my #1 way
Regarding the rest. I'm sure you're right. I have no basis to go on, but I like to think in perfect terms, however.
Karel
10-29-2006, 03:18 PM
I think this is the POTW thread ... yes ...
I am still long PCCC and just forgot to mention that I was on vacation for two weeks and wanted PCCC long for those two weeks :( My bad. We had a very nice, relaxing vacation, for those who want to know.
Regards,
Karel
skiracer
10-29-2006, 03:20 PM
I didn't mean that I though Doug did not respect his partner. He mentioned that he was going to post ways to make women happy. I was giving him my #1 way
Regarding the rest. I'm sure you're right. I have no basis to go on, but I like to think in perfect terms, however.
I'm sure one day you will meet the right woman for you and she'll mold you into the best person you could be or want to be. I hope that you are that fortunate.
skiracer
10-29-2006, 03:22 PM
I think this is the POTW thread ... yes ...
I am still long PCCC and just forgot to mention that I was on vacation for two weeks and wanted PCCC long for those two weeks :( My bad. We had a very nice, relaxing vacation, for those who want to know.
Regards,
Karel
Where did you vacation? Doug gave us a daily report. We expect the same from you please.
Websman
10-29-2006, 03:32 PM
$$$CASH$$$
I'll make my winning pick later...
Karel
10-29-2006, 04:34 PM
Where did you vacation? Doug gave us a daily report. We expect the same from you please.
Errm, no. No daily report, thank you. We went to Hosingen, Luxembourg, and had a self-catering appartment. Experience has taught us that with this kind of appartments a six-person one will serve two very well (three will prove too much). It did again, this time. We made trips mainly in the North of Luxembourg, in their Ardennes, and once to Trier in Germany, just across the border. We also walked a lot and did some fungus hunting with the camera. It's a kind of wildlife that is pretty stationary, so that suits me just fine.
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/354/funguspb5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Regards,
Karel
skiracer
10-29-2006, 04:40 PM
Thanks Karel. Sounds like a very nice trip. We also enjoy hiking in the woods. Nice photograph. What type of mushroom? Is it edible?
jiesen
10-29-2006, 04:50 PM
Fantastic pick, Gwhiz! You are HUGE!!! Congrats to Rob and Webs, too.
I'll take AMLN long again for this week.
dmk112
10-29-2006, 06:01 PM
AMD - short
Doug, this is just my opinion, and I'm not passing any kind of judgement on you, but I think what you just explained is a relationship which is centered around deception. That type of thing in the short term may make things 'easy', but in the long run it will show how detrimental it actually was when things really start to matter.
In my life, Doug, I surround myself with people that tell me exactly how it is. You can put as much lipstick on a pig as possible, but no matter how good you make it seem, it's still a pig.
It is selfish to make a decision that affects more than just you without at least consulting the other person (people) involved.
btw: Doug, you please everyone by giving them the respect the are due. Respect your partner, and she'll be happy
OK...Peanuts gets me in trouble...jk...I decided to let my wife read this little interaction.
Here is her response to New Born Baby's post:
"Is that guy living in the 1850's"???
Here is her response to Peanut's post:
"Guess he set you straight" (meaning me)
In response to my post:
"I know you do that" (So where is the deceit Peanuts???)
and
"I can clean the house better than you anyway" (But she really can't complain...I told her long ago to hire someone to do the chores she doesn't want to do).
To each his own, but even though one pesonality in a relationship has to be a little more dominant than the other (nothing is EXACTLY equal) I would never want to BE THE BOSS on every matter. I prefer women who can think for themselves and take care of business. If a major event occurs and they need my help and/or support...I'm there. But this Boss stuff in a relationship is for the birds. I realize that some women (and some men) want to be totally dominated or taken care of by their partner...But I would never want a woman like that...And I would never be like that.
I was exaggerating on my decision making process...But in reality, I'm a very flexible guy...And I can live with my wife making a lot of decisions...I am not a person who always has to have their own way.
There are plenty of women out there who want some guy to come along and take care of everything...I'll leave those women to someone else...I prefer a give 'n take relationship.
I know some of what I wrote does not apply to you Peanuts...But maybe it does to some others???
Best, Doug(IIC)
Gatorman
10-29-2006, 08:19 PM
Will take CMVT long
I need to Re-group Rob...Start me out in ca$h...thx...Ice Man
JohnHenry
10-29-2006, 08:57 PM
AMD - short
Hi DMK
I was going to pick this for POTW but I wasn't sure.
I know this stock was downgraded. Do you think they will have bad earnings this qt? Thanks
JohnHenry
10-30-2006, 03:18 AM
NVEC Long please
Lyehopper
10-30-2006, 09:01 AM
I'll start the week in ca$h please....
Hey, Lyehopper, would you mind taking the scorekeeping duties back, starting immediately? I think I'm about through here. Put me down for CEO long, which may or may not be my final pick in the contest. I was going to put Quasi-Ernie in TWGP long, but that's the scorekeeper's choice. Here's a list of the positions so far.
Thanks.
BillyJoe AES long
Dmk112 AMD short
Jiesen AMLN long
Peter Hansen BRCL long
Rob CEO long
Gatorman CMVT long
Mary EBAY long
Mimo_100 FTEK long
Skiracer HWCC long
Alice4321us MTEX long
StkyTreat NVEC long
Karel PCCC long
Riverbabe SAI long
Peanuts THC short
Gary611 THI long
Gwhiz URZ long
Diogenes $
IIC $
Lyehopper $
NB Baby $
Websman $
Rob please start me In ca$H THANKS AND HAVE A GOOD DAY
grebnet
10-30-2006, 10:56 AM
lll keep going with PACT until I get it right
peanuts
10-30-2006, 11:29 AM
Rob,
This is 4 weeks in a row now that I have gotten a very unfavorable opening price with my POTW position. THC opened down 50 cents and has drifted higher till now... phooey! That's 8% that I've missed!
Who here is messing with me? I know it's got to be someone here ;)
btw: what's up with the scorekeeping duties? Are you busy or getting burned out? You've been doing such a great job. Lyehopper has big shoes to fill.
Lyehopper
10-30-2006, 11:37 AM
Hey, Lyehopper, would you mind taking the scorekeeping duties back, starting immediately? I think I'm about through here. Put me down for CEO long, which may or may not be my final pick in the contest. I was going to put Quasi-Ernie in TWGP long, but that's the scorekeeper's choice. Here's a list of the positions so far.
Thanks.
BillyJoe AES long
Dmk112 AMD short
Jiesen AMLN long
Peter Hansen BRCL long
Rob CEO long
Gatorman CMVT long
Mary EBAY long
Mimo_100 FTEK long
Skiracer HWCC long
Alice4321us MTEX long
StkyTreat NVEC long
Karel PCCC long
Riverbabe SAI long
Peanuts THC short
Gary611 THI long
Gwhiz URZ long
Diogenes $
IIC $
Lyehopper $
NB Baby $
Websman $
Sorry Rockin'Rob.... I can't do it dude. Anyone else?
It was nice while it lasted.
riverbabe
10-30-2006, 11:50 AM
River,
Hope you do well with SAI. Did your investment group buy any? My wife and I got it in our IRA accounts the day it went public and when it dropped a few cents under our entry I bought it again in another retirement account. Just checked and am up 12.13%, 11.81%, and 14.89% in a very short time period.
------------billyjoe
I bought it at 17.66 and have bought more averaging up, so now my average cost is 18.20. I think it's still going much higher than 20 so am looking to buy much more.
BTW, I asked my buddy in the "investment group" and he confirmed it was the same list of 3 year ratings that you found on the web and published here. So, I can now say the study was done by AAII and I just belong to the local group(s).
I bought it at 17.66 and have bought more averaging up, so now my average cost is 18.20. I think it's still going much higher than 20 so am looking to buy much more.
BTW, I asked my buddy in the "investment group" and he confirmed it was the same list of 3 year ratings that you found on the web and published here. So, I can now say the study was done by AAII and I just belong to the local group(s).
I always thought IBD advertises that they were # 1 in the AAII study???
billyjoe
10-30-2006, 01:29 PM
I always thought IBD advertises that they were # 1 in the AAII study???
Doug,
You're right. I remember that. It may have been 5 years ago though.
--------------billyjoe
riverbabe
10-30-2006, 01:39 PM
I always thought IBD advertises that they were # 1 in the AAII study???
Doug, please see my response under the IBD Beanstalk (i.e. chopping down). I accidentally posted it there while recovering the original billyjoe post. Thanks.
diogenes
10-30-2006, 02:04 PM
From ca$h to long CP.
Doug, please see my response under the IBD Beanstalk (i.e. chopping down). I accidentally posted it there while recovering the original billyjoe post. Thanks.
I found AAII's 8 year stats...I'll post the link in the Chopping down the IBD Beanstalk thread...Doug
I see that Rob is giving up the scorekeeping duties here and has asked Lyehopper to take over. Lyehopper says he can't do it. There are obvious reasons why I can't volunteer (e.g., know next-to-nothing about the market and not computer literate enough to make the cool charts). So, who's willing? :confused:
Mary
skiracer
10-30-2006, 08:01 PM
Rob,
You've been a blessing to everyone of us that ever participated in the POTW. You're commentary has set the standard for POTW's across the planet. I don't think that anyone will meet or exceed what you have done for us and the POTW. Whatever your reasons for giving this up, and God knows that you deserve a rest from it, you have gained the respect and admiration of everyone of us and we are all indebted to you for the time and energy you have put into this thing we call the POTW. But this game is larger than all of us and to let it slip away and disappear from this site would be as big an injustice as not acknowledging what you have done for us. I don't think that I'm going to fill your shoes and I really don't know where the extra time is going to come from but the POTW must and will survive abeit not as entertaining and as colorful as when you were steering the boat. Lay back, take a rest, roll up a big fatty, pour a couple of fingers of the high powered GOJI, which by the way I haven't seen, smelt, or tasted it in what seems to be an eternity, and let the people that must express themselves as they find necessary do what they must, while you relax and enjoy the contest without worrying if you're going to get it to press on time. I'll take the reins for as long as I can stomach these scroundrels. But I will always OPINE for the days when Rob was at the wheel.
The format will change some and the colors will not be as nice but we will continue on, we must continue on. Let them eat cake.
Rob,
Lay back, take a rest, roll up a big fatty, pour a couple of fingers of the high powered GOJI,
Ha! If this means what I think it means, Rob is highly unlikely to (in other words: will never) "roll up a big fatty" as a relaxation technique. He's more likely to pick up his guitar, have a beer, or eat some chips with some of his homemade, hotter-than-blazes salsa.
skiracer
10-30-2006, 08:30 PM
Ha! If this means what I think it means, Rob is highly unlikely to (in other words: will never) "roll up a big fatty" as a relaxation technique. He's more likely to pick up his guitar, have a beer, or eat some chips with some of his homemade, hotter-than-blazes salsa.
Well, Mary, if that's what gets him into that relaxed state of mind then that's what he should do. He definitely deserves it. Let me drive for awhile. A stoned pony but more than capable. Um, is this thing stick shift.
dmk112
10-30-2006, 09:46 PM
Hi DMK
I was going to pick this for POTW but I wasn't sure.
I know this stock was downgraded. Do you think they will have bad earnings this qt? Thanks
I don't base my decisions on future events no one knows about. It just looks like it's going futher down from a technical stand point.
skiracer
10-30-2006, 10:02 PM
Stky you're doing very well with this contest. Just to bad that you don't own any of these do you? I hope you're not blowing your wad early in life and that when you get older you probably won't be able to hit the floor if you fell out of bed. Great pick though and deserving of some praise. Peanuts is going to jealous. Watchout he might not answer any more of your PM's. Not a bad start to the week with 8 in the green and 7 in the red. 5 indecisive. What color for the indecisives? Perhaps pretty in pink. Here's is todays results: God bless you Rob because even with Excel this takes some work.
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5616/potw1030mx1.th.jpg (http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5616/potw1030mx1.jpg)
JohnHenry
10-30-2006, 11:52 PM
Stky you're doing very well with this contest. Just to bad that you don't own any of these do you? I hope you're not blowing your wad early in life and that when you get older you probably won't be able to hit the floor if you fell out of bed. Great pick though and deserving of some praise. Peanuts is going to jealous. Watchout he might not answer any more of your PM's. Not a bad start to the week with 8 in the green and 7 in the red. 5 indecisive. What color for the indecisives? Perhaps pretty in pink. Here's is todays results: God bless you Rob because even with Excel this takes some work.
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5616/potw1030mx1.th.jpg (http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5616/potw1030mx1.jpg)
LOL...HA HA...yeah I know...I wished I had some cash money to own the picks.
Hey Rob
Thanks for keeping scored. I have an idea, Rob can you email Ski the excel spread sheet that you use to keep score? I think it would help him and make score keeping easier, don't you think?
skiracer
10-31-2006, 12:03 AM
LOL...HA HA...yeah I know...I wished I had some cash money to own the picks.
Hey Rob
Thanks for keeping scored. I have an idea, Rob can you email Ski the excel spread sheet that you use to keep score? I think it would help him and make score keeping easier, don't you think?
Are you having a problem seeing or reading this sheet Stky? What would you change to make it clearer or perhaps more entertaining. No one stepped up to take the wheel so I did. Let it seek it's own level for the time being please. Your spelling is terrible. It makes you look and sound like you never read what you post before you hit that submit button. You should be worrying more about that and thank God that someone stepped up to take over from Rob or you might not be on top of any scoreboard.
JohnHenry
10-31-2006, 12:15 AM
Are you having a problem seeing or reading this sheet Stky? What would you change to make it clearer or perhaps more entertaining. No one stepped up to take the wheel so I did. Let it seek it's own level for the time being please. Your spelling is terrible. It makes you look and sound like you never read what you post before you hit that submit button. You should be worrying more about that and thank God that someone stepped up to take over from Rob or you might not be on top of any scoreboard.
Oh Yeah...I got excited and didn't check my spelling before I clicked the submit button.
I'm cool with the sheet, I not saying anything any more...I don't want to be on your $%$#@ list. LOL...hey isn't it pass your bed time over there?
Thanks for keeping score Ski.
Ski...I believe I picked LVLT...thx...IceMan
Lyehopper
10-31-2006, 12:31 AM
Ski...I believe I picked LVLT...thx...IceMan
I picked Ca$h Ski so mines ok dude.... SsSsSssss! Nice to see you pick up the ball. http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/images/icons/icon14.gif
But you really gotta watch those WIIIIIDE posts though, because Karel will be on your Ar$e if ya don't. I think 700 pixles wide is the max allowed.
Quote:
Originally Posted by StkyTreat http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=68683#post68683)
Congrats Rob and everyone in the green.
Dude you came from nowhere (in the red) with a win. Wow, that was close by 3/100 of a percent.
BTW, please sell short NVEC. Thanks
Thanks for keeping score.
NVEC just catapulted to #1 on the IIC 100...Are you CRAZY???...;)
Well...I told 'ya...BTW...Anyone interested to know what the stocks that went to # 1 on the IIC 100 have done the past 2 years???
JohnHenry
10-31-2006, 02:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StkyTreat http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=68683#post68683)
Congrats Rob and everyone in the green.
Dude you came from nowhere (in the red) with a win. Wow, that was close by 3/100 of a percent.
BTW, please sell short NVEC. Thanks
Thanks for keeping score.
Well...I told 'ya...BTW...Anyone interested to know what the stocks that went to # 1 on the IIC 100 have done the past 2 years???
Well Iceman, you kinda right but it did drop from 42 to 38 within the first two days. There was no way for me to time it while I’m in class. Timing is everything right.
peanuts
10-31-2006, 09:14 AM
Ski,
You rock, dude! Thanks for picking up where Rob left off. It's going to take alot to get this done, so I'll offer you the same that I offered Rob: If I can help you out in some way, let me know. I was contemplating whether I could take the reins for a little while, but I've got some personal issues which will mostly likely pull me away from posting too often in the evenings. I'm beginning a new chapter in my life in regards to a carreer.
btw: my THC position is short... wasn't sure if you knew that, or not.
skiracer
10-31-2006, 09:43 AM
Ski,
You rock, dude! Thanks for picking up where Rob left off. It's going to take alot to get this done, so I'll offer you the same that I offered Rob: If I can help you out in some way, let me know. I was contemplating whether I could take the reins for a little while, but I've got some personal issues which will mostly likely pull me away from posting too often in the evenings. I'm beginning a new chapter in my life in regards to a carreer.
btw: my THC position is short... wasn't sure if you knew that, or not.
I just tried to pick it up and run with it last night. Any mistakes or omissions I might have made yesterday I'll correct tonight. Sorry if yours was one of a couple that I got in wrong or left out. Thanks for the offer to help. Well see how it goes. I'm real busy right now myself.
Karel
10-31-2006, 09:51 AM
Rob, thank you for keeping the ball in the air so long and so well.
Ski, thank you for stepping in. But I still thumbnailed your images :) Did you get Rob's spreadsheets?
Regards,
Karel
grebnet
10-31-2006, 09:51 AM
I posted PACT yest at 9:56....price was $5.85
billyjoe
10-31-2006, 09:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StkyTreat http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=68683#post68683)
Congrats Rob and everyone in the green.
Dude you came from nowhere (in the red) with a win. Wow, that was close by 3/100 of a percent.
BTW, please sell short NVEC. Thanks
Thanks for keeping score.
Well...I told 'ya...BTW...Anyone interested to know what the stocks that went to # 1 on the IIC 100 have done the past 2 years???
Doug, Yes we are interested in what happened to#1 on the IIC list in the three months following. I hope they don't go down the toilet like IBD's.
------------billyjoe
. Timing is everything right.
Yup...it sure is...Doug
Doug, Yes we are interested in what happened to#1 on the IIC list in the three months following. I hope they don't go down the toilet like IBD's.
------------billyjoe
Good...glad somebody is interested...So am I...So Billy, since you volunteered you can go over to http://MrBreakout and figure it out...Every IIC 100 list is on the site back to the beginning...Look forward to your report...IIC
billyjoe
10-31-2006, 10:36 AM
Geez Doug,
I don't like getting all these assignments. Feels like 6th grade all over. Well, I went back to the beginning and would you believe only 16 different stocks have been #1. HANS took up nearly a year. I'm not counting the same stock over and over unless there was a gap between #1 appearances. Also I'll check more than just the 3 month performance. Look for results on your thread . It will take a while.
Hey, where is the Pick of the Year Results ? I finally go green after all these months and you don't post? The vacation is over.... hit the keyboard.
------------billyjoe
Geez Doug,
I don't like getting all these assignments. Feels like 6th grade all over. Well, I went back to the beginning and would you believe only 16 different stocks have been #1. HANS took up nearly a year. I'm not counting the same stock over and over unless there was a gap between #1 appearances. Also I'll check more than just the 3 month performance. Look for results on your thread . It will take a while.
Hey, where is the Pick of the Year Results ? I finally go green after all these months and you don't post? The vacation is over.... hit the keyboard.
------------billyjoe
Wake up Billy...I posted the standings on Sunday morning http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?t=1095
The first year I only updated the IIC 100 once a month...then I started doing it weekly.
Notice that HANS was #1 then dropped off for one week and back to #1...If I recall correctly, it had to do with an eps projection change
alice4321us
10-31-2006, 11:14 AM
Sell MTEX now and remain in cash.
billyjoe
10-31-2006, 11:28 AM
Wake up Billy...I posted the standings on Sunday morning http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?t=1095
The first year I only updated the IIC 100 once a month...then I started doing it weekly.
Notice that HANS was #1 then dropped off for one week and back to #1...If I recall correctly, it had to do with an eps projection change
Doug,
You're just too sharp for me. I never saw it. The new posts are always highlighted until I read them and POTW never turned dark for some reason. Could be my eyes.
----------billyjoe
mimo_100
10-31-2006, 11:31 AM
sell FTEK ==> goto ca$h
skiracer
10-31-2006, 11:32 AM
Rob, thank you for keeping the ball in the air so long and so well.
Ski, thank you for stepping in. But I still thumbnailed your images :) Did you get Rob's spreadsheets?
Regards,
Karel
Karel,
I didn't get anything from Rob yet regarding spreadsheets. I can downsize my spreadsheets from yesterdays size without any problem so that they fit within your parameters. If I'm going to do this I would like to do it with my own ideas, especially if I'm going to be doing all the work. Was there a problem with the yesterdays format as far as containing everthing that was required and necessary to see where everyone was at. Whatever corrections need to be made from where I picked it up at yesterday will be made tonight. I am going to need some help with the time of sales from someone who has that available to them. We'll work that out though.
I would appreciate that anyone that didn't get their picks for the POTW posted yesterday or if something was wrong with the way that I entered them please restate them for me on this thread again today. Thanks. I'm sure we will be able to work through any problems.
Doug,
You're just too sharp for me. I never saw it. The new posts are always highlighted until I read them and POTW never turned dark for some reason. Could be my eyes.
----------billyjoe
Sometimes when I visit the ones I have not read are bold...Even if I don't read them all...when I come back the ones I did not read are not bold anymore
grebnet
10-31-2006, 11:45 AM
Maybe this is its week
Karel
10-31-2006, 11:49 AM
Karel,
I didn't get anything from Rob yet regarding spreadsheets. I can downsize my spreadsheets from yesterdays size without any problem so that they fit within your parameters. If I'm going to do this I would like to do it with my own ideas, especially if I'm going to be doing all the work. Was there a problem with the yesterdays format as far as containing everthing that was required and necessary to see where everyone was at. Whatever corrections need to be made from where I picked it up at yesterday will be made tonight. I am going to need some help with the time of sales from someone who has that available to them. We'll work that out though.
Hi Ski,
I appreciate the part about your own ideas, by all means make your own tools. Suggestions about your current setup:
- use a smaller font size and don't use bold
- Wednesday currently needs two columns
- keep as much text as possible out of the image
- IIRC it is possible to alternate the row background color with conditional formatting
But it is your baby now!
Regards,
Karel
peanuts
10-31-2006, 11:53 AM
Maybe this is its week
Grebnet,
I've always appreciated your contributions. I agree with the PACT set-up. Looks great. I'm on it, but my entry is not figured out yet. I'm still planning the trade. Thanks! http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/images/icons/icon14.gif
Conversely, I am sort-of wary of Chinese companies...
grebnet
10-31-2006, 11:55 AM
Conversely, I am sort-of wary of Chinese companies...
Funny thats one of reasons I like it(chinese)
Im also enjoying my IVAC today...I shoulda picked that for potw
Please put me In AXTI-LONG THANKS
... If I'm going to do this I would like to do it with my own ideas, especially if I'm going to be doing all the work. ...
I agree wholeheartedly, Ski! This is one of my major pet peeves in life. If someone asks me to do something, I want to do it my way. They don't get to ask me to help and then tell me how to do it. Similarly, if I'm volunteering for something, it's because I already know how to do it. I won't volunteer when I don't know what I'm doing. The only exception would be if I'm being asked to help with something and I don't know how to do it. When it's a learning experience, I'll take all the help I can get. Otherwise, leave me alone and let me do it myself. :)
skiracer
10-31-2006, 08:01 PM
I agree wholeheartedly, Ski! This is one of my major pet peeves in life. If someone asks me to do something, I want to do it my way. They don't get to ask me to help and then tell me how to do it. Similarly, if I'm volunteering for something, it's because I already know how to do it. I won't volunteer when I don't know what I'm doing. The only exception would be if I'm being asked to help with something and I don't know how to do it. When it's a learning experience, I'll take all the help I can get. Otherwise, leave me alone and let me do it myself. :)
I really have no problemo with asking for help with the Excel spreadsheet formulas as I need it. There is so much it can do and I am eager to learn more about the use of them and making them work for me. One of the reasons behind doing this was to be able to ask those questions in relation to building a spreadsheet that is precise and entertaining. Right now I'm just trying to ease into it as it happened so fast. With a little help from my friends, right. I'm not trying to change things just to give my own ideas a chance and to blossom and also see what everyone else would like. And then say no! Not really. I want to continue on in the manner that Rob started by trying to enhance the experience of the POTW as we move forward. An in conclusion my loyal constituents, if you vote for me there will be 5 commission free trades in every account on Tuesday. God bless all of you.
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