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mrmarket
12-16-2008, 05:02 PM
It’s time to go Christmas shopping and boy did I find two great stocks that are on sale. Since there isn’t any momentum in the overall market, I felt that I could be a little more successful picking stocks that are oversold. So far it has worked out pretty well. I have been concentrating on stocks that have sold off more than 40% from their highs while still maintaining impressive revenue and earnings growth while carrying zero debt. I am not Bernard Madoff. He can’t bench press 385 lbs. If he ripped me off, I would snap his neck like a chicken. He is not HUGE.

The first stock I bought is HURC – Hurco Companies.

• HURC stock price is down over 62% so far in the last 52 weeks (it’s traded as high as 52.12) and was oversold by 30% relative to overall market (so it’s on sale).
• HURC has a P/E value of 4.0.
• HURC has cash on the books of $5/share. So the entire business is being valued at only a little more than $8/share.
• HURC has zero debt.
• Profit margin is 10%
• Operating margin is 16%
• ROA is 13%
• ROE is 20%
• EPS growth is 7.4%
• Revenue growth is 19%
• Book value is $19/share…HURC is trading at a big discount to book value!

Hurco Companies, Inc., an industrial technology company, designs, manufactures, and sells computerized machine tools and integrated computer control systems and software products to companies in the metal working industry worldwide. Its products include general purpose computerized machine tools, which primarily include vertical machining centers and turning centers for the metal cutting industry. The company also produces computer control systems and related software for press brake applications that are sold as retrofit control systems. In addition, Hurco Companies produces and distributes software options, control upgrades, hardware accessories, and replacement parts for its machine tool product lines, as well as provides operator training and support services to its customers.

HURC’s market cap is only $89,000,000. So it is a likely takeover candidate if its stock price doesn’t go up soon (especially with all the cash on its books). There isn’t much not to like about Hurco other than the fact that it doesn’t pay a dividend.

I bought HURC today at 13.94. I will sell it in 4-6 weeks at $16.18. Don’t believe me? Here’s what the boss had to say:

Michael Doar, Chief Executive Officer, stated, ``We are pleased that, even with the sudden sharp decline in sales during the fourth quarter, our results for fiscal 2008 set another record for Hurco, with revenues growing 19% to $223,994,000 and earnings growing 8% to $22,520,000 compared to the prior year. We significantly expanded our product line in 2008 with the introduction of 14 new models at IMTS in September. We believe that these products will allow us to gain a larger share of the machine tool market and extend our customer base when global economic conditions begin to improve.
There is no question that we are significantly impacted by the worsening global economic crisis, as evidenced by the 27% decline in global orders during the fourth quarter. However, we believe that we are well positioned to weather the downturn due to our broad product line and strong financial position. At the end of the year we had cash, cash equivalents and investments of $33,068,000 and no outstanding debt. In addition, we have already taken steps to reduce expenses and inventory levels to reflect lower demand. Our customers are facing significant challenges as the financial crisis has spread to the manufacturing sector. We will continue to focus on the three key areas that have been our emphasis since 2001: customers, profitability and core competencies, which include software automation, efficient manufacturing and global sales distribution.``
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The second stock I bought is an all time favorite high tech stock that continues to make products that everyone wants, and as a result, continues to be very profitable. However in the Wall Street sell off, it’s stock price got unfairly hammered.

If you can imagine a computer accessory, Logitech probably makes it. With more than 200 products on store shelves all around the world, Logitech rides countless technology trends.

Examples include the rise of online video. Logitech holds a huge lead in Web cam sales. Then there's Internet phone service. Logitech sells the equipment. Or the increasingly common use of the computer to play music, for which Logitech provides speakers. And the popularity of fancy keyboards and mice, where wireless and ergonomic versions are top sellers. Don't forget video game controllers, another Logitech specialty. Or a relatively new offering: Universal remote controls to coordinate the increasingly complex technology in living rooms.

Logitech has been increasing sales, profit margins and earnings at a rapid pace. The reason, ANALysts say, is healthy demand for its new products, which sell for higher prices. Their market cap is over $2 billion dollars. They aren’t going anywhere…and they just shipped their billionth mouse.

Today I bought LOGI at 13.44. I will sell it in 4 – 6 weeks at 15.60. Logitech is a great company that makes great products, but the real reason I bought it is because it is cheap.

LOGI’s stock price is down 57% over the last 52 weeks and 41% over the last 3 months. Remember, this is a high tech company, yet its PE is trading at only 8.25. It’s 5 year average PE is 22..one would think that unless it’s competitive edge erodes, it will once again reach that level of valuation.

Anyway, earnings have grown 61% year on year while revenues have grown 15%. Gross margin is a very healthy 36%. Other useful info:
• ROE is 30%
• ROA is 18.5%
• LOGI has zero long term debt….zero.

The CEO is Gerald Quindlen. He is a Chemical Engineer like me. He worked for an oil company like me and he was my classmate at Wharton. He couldn’t drink like me, but he is a good guy, from what I can remember. This is what old Gerry had to say:

“We are pleased to deliver double-digit revenue growth in what has become an increasingly challenging environment,” said Gerald P. Quindlen, Logitech president and chief executive officer. “The strong growth in Asia and OEM, as well as in pointing devices and Harmony remotes, underscores the resilience of our geographic and category diversification. The decline in our gross margin was primarily due to the combination of higher input costs and the mix between retail and OEM sales.


“Given the pervasive economic uncertainty, both in North America and Europe, we are tempering our outlook for growth for Fiscal 2009. We remain bullish on the opportunities across all our product categories and we believe we are well positioned to return to annual growth in the mid-teens when conditions improve.”

So there you go. The Fed has just cut interest rates again to an all time low. The lighter fluid is being thrown on the smoldering grill over and over and over again. When it ignites, these stocks are gonna be on FIRE!!!!

I bought a dirt cheap industrial company that’s been around for over 50 years and a high tech behemoth for a PE of 8. Wow…talk about Christmas bargains! Ho ho ho!!

Tell me what you think of these two stocks.

I am HUGE!

$$$MR. MARKET$$$

http://www.mrmarketishuge.com

billyjoe
12-16-2008, 05:35 PM
Mr. Market,
Even me small brain can see these 2 are huge. My fearless prediction is that LOGI will hit your target first.

-------------billy

RL
12-17-2008, 10:05 AM
I'm In thanks for the picks they look real good I can use the moo-la:):):)

studentofthemarket
12-17-2008, 04:56 PM
is going to be helpless as their sales plummet. And plummet they will.

there is no shipping, there is no retail sales, just who is going to want to buy machine tools? to make what? what people don't want to buy? Or can't afford to buy if the wanted to?

the only way this company spikes upward is that defense spending ramps up because we're blowing up Iranians.


that's my take.

MEA_1956
12-17-2008, 10:03 PM
It may be time to stop and smell the coffee. CLASS STARTS NOW. If you were to spend some time looking at this Co. in a reverse mode their is a lesson to be learned here. Theirs more to our economy than what you are seeing, for I see this to be a perfect pick at this time in our turn around phase. Fact, they not gooing to build any houses or approve any loans. but this is an idel time for retooling at a truss shop. Fact, CAT, DE, CNH, JOYG, are not telling the farmer, miner, or maintance co. they have to wait for new software to make these parts that they need for production. Rethink your stance and you just may change your mind. Just cause GM is out of monies doesn't mean the rest of the world is in the same shape. MEA

jiesen
12-17-2008, 11:50 PM
I looked at both, and since I could only afford to buy one, I picked HURC because it seemed more likely than LOGI to hit your 15% target. So, I put an order in this morning for $14.1, and luckily picked up a few shares of HURC.

HURC is gonna be HUGE!!! Thanks for the pick, $$MM, and see you at $16!

DPlayer
12-22-2008, 09:57 AM
I'm in for both (will look for 20% return since smaller investment):

LOGI
- Bought at $13.99, will sell at $16.79

HURC
- Bought at $13.86, will sell at $16.62

Good luck to all! (and Merry Christmas everyone!)

-D

wooish
12-30-2008, 12:33 AM
So I followed Mr. Market and bought 300 shares of HURI at $12.10. Will sell at around $16. Thanks and good luck

mystiky
12-30-2008, 12:17 PM
Mr. Market --

Hope you had you LOGI limit order to sell at 15.60 in, cause it would had sold!

Happy Holidays!

Karel
12-30-2008, 02:49 PM
Mr. Market --

Hope you had you LOGI limit order to sell at 15.60 in, cause it would had sold!

Happy Holidays!
$$$Mr. Market$$$ seldom uses limit orders, but I can confirm he sold LOGI, just look at the number of sold stocks at the top of the page.

Regards,

Karel

gogi
01-02-2009, 09:39 PM
$$$Mr. Market$$$ seldom uses limit orders, but I can confirm he sold LOGI, just look at the number of sold stocks at the top of the page.


Maybe I am blind, but I can't seem to find his buys/sells or current holdings etc. I am logged in as a registered member, but can not find this info.

Anyone give me a clue where to look.

Thanks,

Gogi

jiesen
01-02-2009, 10:22 PM
Maybe I am blind, but I can't seem to find his buys/sells or current holdings etc. I am logged in as a registered member, but can not find this info.

Anyone give me a clue where to look.

Thanks,

Gogi

The link to his homepage is in the first post on the thread two down from this one:

http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?t=33

Karel
01-05-2009, 12:28 PM
Go HURC !!!

mrmarket
01-05-2009, 12:33 PM
you sees HURC price action today...can't lose...can't LOSE!!!

jiesen
01-06-2009, 01:24 AM
you sees HURC price action today...can't lose...can't LOSE!!!

HURC sure is rockin' it today! Thanks for this awesome pick! Btw did you see the recent action on MFLX and TWGP?

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=5d&s=MFLX&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=twgp

We're back in business, Mortimer!

mrmarket
01-06-2009, 01:39 PM
HURC sure is rockin' it today! Thanks for this awesome pick! Btw did you see the recent action on MFLX and TWGP?

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=5d&s=MFLX&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=twgp

We're back in business, Mortimer!

Yes we are...and where's all my Yahoo spam on the HURC, MFLX and TWGP message boards???? You are shirking your duties.

I have another pick coming sooooon.

jiesen
01-06-2009, 07:03 PM
Yes we are...and where's all my Yahoo spam on the HURC, MFLX and TWGP message boards???? You are shirking your duties.

I have another pick coming sooooon.

you're right! I'm getting right on that, $$MM!!!

mrmarket
01-06-2009, 10:03 PM
you're right! I'm getting right on that, $$MM!!!

nice work Tonto.

Karel
02-06-2009, 02:25 PM
Go HURC! Go, go go!

mrmarket
02-06-2009, 05:04 PM
It didn't quite get there today but hopefully Monday...I am on it like white on rice!

New-born baby
02-06-2009, 07:47 PM
It didn't quite get there today but hopefully Monday...I am on it like white on rice!

HURC has more to go. Looking good to $21.

Karel
02-09-2009, 02:22 PM
HURC did it for me! 16.18! $$$Mr. Market$$$ is
HUGE

Regards,

Karel

jiesen
02-09-2009, 04:04 PM
HURC is HUGE!!!

I just sold mine at 16.5 for a 17% profit on this one. Thanks for the excellent pick, $$MM! You are the HUGEST stock picker ever!!!

New-born baby
02-09-2009, 06:24 PM
Congrats, MM! Post another pick soon!

billyjoe
02-09-2009, 06:36 PM
Mr. Market,
Even me small brain can see these 2 are huge. My fearless prediction is that LOGI will hit your target first.

-------------billy

Mr.Market,

Huge is not a big enough word ! You laugh at a recession, Roll on the floor at a depression, open your own bank on a recovery, and light your Cuban cigars with $100 bills during a bull market.

--------------billy