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jblaze71
11-09-2006, 12:25 AM
Any opinions on HANS. I am short the stock and everything I have read seem like the quarter will be in-line or below estimate when they report tomorrow. I am just wondering why the stock bounced today? Because it is coming off the stock options reporting or I am dead wrong in my analysis and HANS is going to have a break-out quarter. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Any opinions on HANS. I am short the stock and everything I have read seem like the quarter will be in-line or below estimate when they report tomorrow. I am just wondering why the stock bounced today? Because it is coming off the stock options reporting or I am dead wrong in my analysis and HANS is going to have a break-out quarter. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Pretty gutsy holding over to earnings...I really have no idea...but my gut says you should've covered...Doug(IIC)
New-born baby
11-09-2006, 08:36 AM
Any opinions on HANS. I am short the stock and everything I have read seem like the quarter will be in-line or below estimate when they report tomorrow. I am just wondering why the stock bounced today? Because it is coming off the stock options reporting or I am dead wrong in my analysis and HANS is going to have a break-out quarter. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Blaze,
Here's a few thoughts:
I would think that yesterday's action was shorts covering in the face of earnings announcement: Safety first buying action.
Daily chart shows a possible double bottom pattern. That's bullish. Add in all of these bullish signals, too: RSI bounced solidly off of the 30 line; HANS moved up strongly on much higher than average volume. The PnF indicates that HANS has already fell much further than the target (running out of steam). The STO is indicating that HANS may be a buy here (we will know today if the %K crosses the %D above the 20 line. Looks like it will from here). Then there is incredible support at the $26.80 or so level. To my eyes, it looks like GM this past January. I was short the stock, and I ran into rock solid support at the $18 level. There just wasn't no how, no way she was dropping lower. That was a buy signal then, and I think HANS will bounce here.
Here's my view (I am not always right, either): HANS will bounce today, and run up to at least $29.50-$30.69 area before she hits any resistance. We will have to re-evalutate the chart if HANS takes out this resistance, because if she does, then HANS will be a bullish chart again.
What would I do? Get out of the way. When the news hits, and if the stock bounces, then I would cover my shorts and BUY HANS.
Best to you. I'll watch the action to see how right/wrong I am. If she bounces nicely, I'll probably jump in, too. :D
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1206/chart1tf9.gif (http://imageshack.us)
billyjoe
11-09-2006, 09:56 AM
Any opinions on HANS. I am short the stock and everything I have read seem like the quarter will be in-line or below estimate when they report tomorrow. I am just wondering why the stock bounced today? Because it is coming off the stock options reporting or I am dead wrong in my analysis and HANS is going to have a break-out quarter. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
jblaze,
I think you'll do well with the short.
--------------billyjoe
New-born baby
11-09-2006, 10:28 AM
jblaze,
I think you'll do well with the short.
--------------billyjoe
This ought to help out a lot!
CORONA, Calif. (AP) - Hansen Natural Corp., which makes sodas, juices and teas, on Thursday reported its third-quarter revenue surged 69 percent, but did not provide its complete quarterly results and said it would do so once a probe into its stock option practices is complete.
On Monday, the company said it would appoint a committee to investigate its past stock grants and warned it might delay reporting its quarterly financial results. Earlier this month, Hansen disclosed that it received an inquiry from the Securities and Exchange Commission requesting the company voluntarily submit information about its stock-option grants from 1996 to the present.
Pretty gutsy holding over to earnings...I really have no idea...but my gut says you should've covered...Doug(IIC)
Hansen Natural Delays Release Of 3Q EPS, Pending Probe
Guess my gut was wrong...Doug
New-born baby
11-09-2006, 10:38 AM
Any opinions on HANS. I am short the stock and everything I have read seem like the quarter will be in-line or below estimate when they report tomorrow. I am just wondering why the stock bounced today? Because it is coming off the stock options reporting or I am dead wrong in my analysis and HANS is going to have a break-out quarter. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
We know why it bounced: shorts covering.
I bought 100 shares at $27.01.
Tatnic
11-09-2006, 10:49 AM
Blaze,
Here's a few thoughts:
I would think that yesterday's action was shorts covering in the face of earnings announcement: Safety first buying action.
Daily chart shows a possible double bottom pattern. That's bullish. Add in all of these bullish signals, too: RSI bounced solidly off of the 30 line; HANS moved up strongly on much higher than average volume. The PnF indicates that HANS has already fell much further than the target (running out of steam). The STO is indicating that HANS may be a buy here (we will know today if the %K crosses the %D above the 20 line. Looks like it will from here). Then there is incredible support at the $26.80 or so level. To my eyes, it looks like GM this past January. I was short the stock, and I ran into rock solid support at the $18 level. There just wasn't no how, no way she was dropping lower. That was a buy signal then, and I think HANS will bounce here.
Here's my view (I am not always right, either): HANS will bounce today, and run up to at least $29.50-$30.69 area before she hits any resistance. We will have to re-evalutate the chart if HANS takes out this resistance, because if she does, then HANS will be a bullish chart again.
What would I do? Get out of the way. When the news hits, and if the stock bounces, then I would cover my shorts and BUY HANS.
Best to you. I'll watch the action to see how right/wrong I am. If she bounces nicely, I'll probably jump in, too. :D
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1206/chart1tf9.gif (http://imageshack.us)
fundamentally I agree with blaze that hans is a short, but your chart makes me think his timing is way off IN THE SHORT RUN.
BUT, I do recall reading a headline somewhere recently that energy drinks are coming under fire from some agency and may come under much more scrutiny and regulation. That would certainly put a huge damper on hans over the longer term.
New-born baby
11-09-2006, 10:55 AM
fundamentally I agree with blaze that hans is a short, but your chart makes me think his timing is way off IN THE SHORT RUN.
BUT, I do recall reading a headline somewhere recently that energy drinks are coming under fire from some agency and may come under much more scrutiny and regulation. That would certainly put a huge damper on hans over the longer term.
Right on, Tatnic. I am looking only for a short term move.
jblaze71
11-09-2006, 11:00 AM
Well I got out of my position with a profit. I think you are right Tatnic. In the long run it is definately a short but I will not wait for a better reentry position with the TA looks better. I don't know what to make of their earnings. Revenue is almost right at the expected number but gross margins are down. Hard to weigh the fundies with no knowing the effect of the stock options probe.
New-born baby
11-09-2006, 11:02 AM
We know why it bounced: shorts covering.
I bought 100 shares at $27.01.
I sold at $27.20.
Looking for re-entry.
In at $26.86
Out at $26.92
Lunch money (with Doug :D)
By the way, I think $26.50 is a good entry if you like it. If $26.50, Blaze, short this baby down into the dirt.
New-born baby
11-09-2006, 11:16 AM
Right now HANS is basing in the $26.94 area. A break above $27 suggests she runs to $27.25 for a day trade :D
I was watching for a possible quick buck too NBB...unfortunately my computer was messing up so I had to shut down and run some maintenance for 15-20 mins :(
New-born baby
11-09-2006, 11:29 AM
If this skunk can bust $27, it ought to run a bit. Horrible resistance at that $26.99 level.
jblaze71
11-09-2006, 02:16 PM
:p NBB,
According to the chart of HANS, I think that if it breaches resistance at 26.06 would be the time to get in short. Your thoughts?
New-born baby
11-09-2006, 02:45 PM
:p NBB,
According to the chart of HANS, I think that if it breaches resistance at 26.06 would be the time to get in short. Your thoughts?
Yes, that is correct. That would be the crushing of current support, and open the door for HANS to fall to around $19.28. Next support after that is down in the $11 range.
I bought into CAMH today at $3.36. :D
jblaze71
11-09-2006, 05:17 PM
In at 25.71 short
Copy of a post I made on my thread:
I think I found my calling...I'm just gonna trade HANS for a living...LOL
I traded it 3x long today +.13, +.10 and +.32 sh
Thanks for sparking the idea Newborn...Doug(IIC)
New-born baby
11-09-2006, 08:40 PM
Copy of a post I made on my thread:
I think I found my calling...I'm just gonna trade HANS for a living...LOL
I traded it 3x long today +.13, +.10 and +.32 sh
Thanks for sparking the idea Newborn...Doug(IIC)
Anytime, Doug! For my money, you're the best daytrader around!
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Originally Posted by IIC http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?p=71158#post71158)
Copy of a post I made on my thread:
I think I found my calling...I'm just gonna trade HANS for a living...LOL
I traded it 3x long today +.13, +.10 and +.32 sh
Thanks for sparking the idea Newborn...Doug(IIC)
Anytime, Doug! For my money, you're the best daytrader around!
Well...they all should've been over .30...The first time I sold too early...second time I sold too late...the third time was just about all I could've gotten...Doug
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