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IIC
01-14-2006, 01:15 PM
IBD has been known to join forums in the past. I know, we caught them. They used an apparently fictitious name...Kelly Fenwick. When I called IBD and asked for Kelly I was told that no one by that name worked there...Geez, that was strange...Kelly used the williamoneil.com domain when they joined to access the forum. How do I know that? Simple...you just take the IP address and check it here...Second box down...nslookup at http://name.space.xs2.net/search/

Then you just block access from that domain...Of course it doesn't prevent anyone from joining from their home computer.

Cast your vote now.

Websman
01-14-2006, 01:38 PM
Why shouldn't we ban IBD? They banned Mr Market and myself from their board, didn't they?

Lyehopper
01-14-2006, 03:03 PM
Hate to buck the trend..... but.... that just dosen't seem like Ernies style. $$$MR. Market$$$ ain't scared of IBD or their stinkn operatives.... If Ernie caught one here (red handed) he should simply (publicy) expose them as an IBD rat and let us "have at em".... throw the rats to the dogs.... See that little dog kill that IBD rat?.... TICK! ....LOL!!!!.... I vote NO.

IIC
01-14-2006, 03:46 PM
Hate to buck the trend..... but.... that just dosen't seem like Ernies style. $$$MR. Market$$$ ain't scared of IBD or their stinkn operatives.... If Ernie caught one here (red handed) he should simply (publicy) expose them as an IBD rat and let us "have at em".... throw the rats to the dogs.... See that little dog kill that IBD rat?.... TICK! ....LOL!!!!.... I vote NO.

I am EXTREMELY disappointed in you Lye...Ever heard of an "Eye 4 an Eye...Tooth 4 a Tooth"???

I'm gonna have to re-think my opinion of you.... ;)

Ever wonder WHY they would be conducting what I call "Forum Espionage"?

Heck...I've publically stated that they can use anything I post as long as they give me credit...You have no idea how many people they have gone after on legal grounds...Some deserve it...But IMO most don't...At least the one's I know...which is a lot of site owners. Deep pockets talk I guess.

Websman
01-14-2006, 05:23 PM
Hate to buck the trend..... but.... that just dosen't seem like Ernies style. $$$MR. Market$$$ ain't scared of IBD or their stinkn operatives.... If Ernie caught one here (red handed) he should simply (publicy) expose them as an IBD rat and let us "have at em".... throw the rats to the dogs.... See that little dog kill that IBD rat?.... TICK! ....LOL!!!!.... I vote NO.

There's nothing like a good old southern....never mind....I might get sued if I finish that statement.

IIC
01-14-2006, 05:39 PM
Well...I think we should take IBD up on their offer to interview Bill O'Neil...Maybe Mr. M can conduct the interview??? If he is too shy...No problem...I'll do it....give me a Buzz Kathy.

This IBD site says how to set it up(at the bottom)...I'd love to go head to head...My only bigger dream is to get on MAD MONEY...I want to whack Jim over the head w/ a rolled up IBD...LOL

http://www.investors.com/presscenter/pc06.asp

Runner
01-14-2006, 05:56 PM
Doug, I don’t understand your point about banning IBD. What is the point of this? Is IBD a business that makes money off subscriptions? I think the main concern with them is retention and subscription increases. Now I have not a clue what they are all about. I did have the IBD newspaper a few years ago, but I did not think it was worth it. Some guy called my house a few months ago to get me back. He asked how my investing was going. I told him a little about what I’m doing and he said it sounds as if you’re doing well. I politely told him thanks but no thanks.

Now the very fact that this company called me a few years latter told me they might be hurting for subscriptions or keeping current subscribers.

IIC
01-14-2006, 06:58 PM
Doug, I don’t understand your point about banning IBD. What is the point of this? Is IBD a business that makes money off subscriptions? I think the main concern with them is retention and subscription increases. Now I have not a clue what they are all about. I did have the IBD newspaper a few years ago, but I did not think it was worth it. Some guy called my house a few months ago to get me back. He asked how my investing was going. I told him a little about what I’m doing and he said it sounds as if you’re doing well. I politely told him thanks but no thanks.

Now the very fact that this company called me a few years latter told me they might be hurting for subscriptions or keeping current subscribers.

Well...calling you a few years later...that's not bad business...Are they hurting for subscribers? I don't know...They used to put their circulation on the paper...Last I remember it was 310,000 before they took it off...Why did they take it off?...I don't know...But a reasonable person would think that they took it off because it was going down.

But don't take my word for it...Let's take a look at the most respected organization for independent audits...Oh, the circulation is 201,000 now

http://www.accessabc.com/reader/top150.htm

What happened?...Down over 33%??? why is that???...I don't know!

I would like to personally invite IBD to respond to anything I say...Why don't they???...I don't know...LOL

billyjoe
01-14-2006, 07:50 PM
Doug,
Down 33%. That's a laggert not a leader. Not a company to be associated with. Not my words, Wm O'Neil's.

billyjoe

Gatorman
01-14-2006, 09:01 PM
Doug,
Down 33%. That's a laggert not a leader. Not a company to be associated with. Not my words, Wm O'Neil's.

billyjoe
I am proud to count myself as a member in good standing of the 33% club. I like their charts but grew very weary of the forums, the "finding" of stocks after they had made their run and a general lofty view of their own CANSLIM method while viewing any other investment method with disdain. I cancelled my subscription.

New-born baby
01-14-2006, 09:10 PM
Just read POTW and found out that Ray and his DART system was the top stock picker in POTW for 2005. I think he should be banned. Using DARTs is not fair. :D

Lyehopper
01-14-2006, 09:14 PM
I am EXTREMELY disappointed in you Lye...Ever heard of an "Eye 4 an Eye...Tooth 4 a Tooth"???

I'm gonna have to re-think my opinion of you.... ;)


IIC disappointed in me?.... I'm crushed!

Look Doug, I read IBD and it has helped me as an investor.... Look at my 2005 POTW points finish for proof of how IBD can help to make you a better investor....LOL

dmk112
01-14-2006, 09:51 PM
Just read POTW and found out that Ray and his DART system was the top stock picker in POTW for 2005. I think he should be banned. Using DARTs is not fair. :D

Is he really throwing darts or is DARTS some type of high tech stock picking system. Maybe its an acronym for Diligent - And - Regression - Technical - System....how bout it Ray, you're a genious aren't you?

IIC
01-14-2006, 11:54 PM
IIC disappointed in me?.... I'm crushed!

Look Doug, I read IBD and it has helped me as an investor.... Look at my 2005 POTW points finish for proof of how IBD can help to make you a better investor....LOL

I subscribe too and I take RealTime DailyGraphs...But why do you think they used an apparently fake name to access one of my forums?

mrmarket
01-15-2006, 12:43 AM
The sitemeter on my personal homepage has in fact revealed that Williamoneill.com has visted my site several times. However, I'm sure it was just the hot chick administrative assistants checking out my beach pics.

Websman
01-15-2006, 10:09 AM
The sitemeter on my personal homepage has in fact revealed that Williamoneill.com has visted my site several times. However, I'm sure it was just the hot chick administrative assistants checking out my beach pics.

It has to be the beach pics. My took a look at your pics and told me that I need to start working out more often...

IIC
01-15-2006, 12:06 PM
The sitemeter on my personal homepage has in fact revealed that Williamoneill.com has visted my site several times. However, I'm sure it was just the hot chick administrative assistants checking out my beach pics.

LOL Ernie...Heck, not only am I not the best trader here...I'm not even the wittiest trader...But I think I'm in the Top 5 of the wittiest and I'm in the Top 1500 of the best traders...Doug(IIC)

IIC
01-15-2006, 12:12 PM
Geez...Pretty close race here...I'm a bit surprised. However, the question wasn't meant to mean you shouldn't use IBD products...It was just asking whether or not they should be allowed to pick our brains for free.

IIC
01-15-2006, 09:38 PM
After all this legal stuff from the IBD lawyers being sent to some of my friends here and the numerous site owners I've known over the years...and others who I don't particularly like...I decided to go down to my private PO box today...which I have not checked in 3 months...to see if I got anything from http://www.silver-freedman.com/ ...The IBD attorney's...Nothing there...But they know my home address and phone number anyway.

I don't use any of their stuff to come up with my stuff that I post anyway...Don't need to...I agree...some have infringed trademarks...or copyrights...I never have...Don't need to...If I run a scan based on the info I have legit access to and some of the tix come up the same as they come up with...There is nothing wrong w/ that.

I've promised to keep my mouth shut on any individual cases...And I will keep my word...But I have heard many times over the years..."Why does IBD go after me...I actually give them free publicity"??? Well, I have no inside info...But my guess is that WON doesn't want your FREE publicity...but he can hire these lawyers who will try to play hardball with you...Even if you are right...You don't know what to say...Do you???

I feel bad for the people I know that try to make a buck offering what I consider to be good info that does not infringe...But I am not about to suggest that they handle it the same way I would....Doug

ParkTwain
01-15-2006, 09:42 PM
You know, it might have been the "wrestling" pics. Just a heads up for you ... :)

Websman
01-15-2006, 09:43 PM
IBD went after Poorman recently, yet he continues to support them. He must be a very easy going guy.

Lyehopper
01-15-2006, 09:49 PM
The sitemeter on my personal homepage has in fact revealed that Williamoneill.com has visted my site several times. However, I'm sure it was just the hot chick administrative assistants checking out my beach pics.

Hey Ernie, is there a way to scroll through the $$MM$$ photo gallery?

btw.... whats the picture of the dudes on the beach, one with a gun pointed at another..... and one due has a HUUUGE Afro....

Websman
01-15-2006, 09:56 PM
Hey Ernie, is there a way to scroll through the $$MM$$ photo gallery?

btw.... whats the picture of the dudes on the beach, one with a gun pointed at another..... and one due has a HUUUGE Afro....

If you'll keep refreshing the page, you'll get a different pic every time. Make sure your wif isn't watching first. Ernies pics may get her excited.

IIC
01-15-2006, 10:05 PM
IBD went after Poorman recently, yet he continues to support them. He must be a very easy going guy.

This is my take on Bruce...No facts...Just my opinion:

I've known Bruce for a few years...but only via the Net...I would love to meet him in person....He and I both know that we are not the same...But I certainly do respect his opinion and I believe he is very good for the type of investor he is.

This is from stuff he posted publically on another forum...so nothing confidential...In fact, I don't know him well enough for him to tell me anything confidential anyway...When IBD went after him he appeared distraught to me...He made a comment that he loved IBD...Well, my response was that IBD apparently does not love you.

He also mentioned that IBD wanted to charge him something like $1200yr to be able to post the "Smart Investor" article they published about him...I believe circa April '04. What a crock IMO...Who the h*ll do they think they are???

I went thru the Pre-interview for that Smart Investor feature in 6/02 or 6/03...Can't remember...Lucky I didn't make it to the second round...But they would never have published what I had to say anyway.

As far as Bruce and IBD...I feel bad for him...He does not take that type of abuse lightly IMO like I do...Personally, if I were him I'd make a final post at IBD Forums and tell them to Kiss my As*...But he is a lot nicer person than I am and I cannot imagine him doing that...Doug(IIC)

IIC
01-15-2006, 10:09 PM
If you'll keep refreshing the page, you'll get a different pic every time. Make sure your wif isn't watching first. Ernies pics may get her excited.

What is a "due" Lye...And what is a "wif" Webs???

BTW Lye...My "wif" knows how to access this forum to look at Ernie's pecs or pics or whatever...So I'd appreciate no more mention about U NO WHAT...THX...Doug

Websman
01-15-2006, 10:11 PM
What is a "due" Lye...And what is a "wif" Webs???

BTW Lye...My "wif" knows how to access this forum to look at Ernie's pecs or pics or whatever...So I'd appreciate no more mention about U NO WHAT...THX...Doug

Man you're nitpicky!

WIFE!!! WIFE!!! WIFE!!!

Shadow
01-15-2006, 10:48 PM
This is my take on Bruce...No facts...Just my opinion:

I've known Bruce for a few years...but only via the Net...I would love to meet him in person....He and I both know that we are not the same...But I certainly do respect his opinion and I believe he is very good for the type of investor he is.

This is from stuff he posted publically on another forum...so nothing confidential...In fact, I don't know him well enough for him to tell me anything confidential anyway...When IBD went after him he appeared distraught to me...He made a comment that he loved IBD...Well, my response was that IBD apparently does not love you.

He also mentioned that IBD wanted to charge him something like $1200yr to be able to post the "Smart Investor" article they published about him...I believe circa April '04. What a crock IMO...Who the h*ll do they think they are???

I went thru the Pre-interview for that Smart Investor feature in 6/02 or 6/03...Can't remember...Lucky I didn't make it to the second round...But they would never have published what I had to say anyway.

As far as Bruce and IBD...I feel bad for him...He does not take that type of abuse lightly IMO like I do...Personally, if I were him I'd make a final post at IBD Forums and tell them to Kiss my As*...But he is a lot nicer person than I am and I cannot imagine him doing that...Doug(IIC)

Doug,

I agree with you...there are a some people nicer than the rest of us
and Poorman's in one of them.


The internet is a wonderful thing but it can be a curse. You never
really know who any of us are :-) ........IBD I hope you're paying attention!
Kick me off...ban me...LMAO....get real! Too many computers and
relatives available for that too work.......maybe you shouldn't be
so frightened of the good guys...

Man....I'm ticked.....can you tell? :x

There is a marketing rule: for every customer saying bad things,
you need 10 to say good things..... you're not doing well IBD!
Did you get that? I hope IBD is smarter than that...but in case
they're not....I'll make sure above marketing pricipal is put to
work.

I love a challenge! :twisted:

IIC
01-15-2006, 11:46 PM
Doug,

I agree with you...there are a some people nicer than the rest of us
and Poorman's in one of them.


The internet is a wonderful thing but it can be a curse. You never
really know who any of us are :-) ........IBD I hope you're paying attention!
Kick me off...ban me...LMAO....get real! Too many computers and
relatives available for that too work.......maybe you shouldn't be
so frightened of the good guys...

Man....I'm ticked.....can you tell? :x

There is a marketing rule: for every customer saying bad things,
you need 10 to say good things..... you're not doing well IBD!
Did you get that? I hope IBD is smarter than that...but in case
they're not....I'll make sure above marketing pricipal is put to
work.

I love a challenge! :twisted:

Geez Shadow...You fit right in real fast here...Way to go...If you perused some of the other threads you may have seen that I was pretty good in track many years ago...I remember once when I lost a big race my Mom gave me a poster that said "Nice Guys Finish Last"...Well...it was not her intention...But I put it up in my bedroom...And I vowed to never be a nice guy again!!!...BUT...I was really a nice guy at heart...so it didn't work...But I really do not like people who think they are Holier Than Thou w/ Big Bux tryin' to push their weight around...Never Have...Never Will!!!

Lyehopper
01-16-2006, 10:43 AM
Geez Shadow...You fit right in real fast here...Way to go...If you perused some of the other threads you may have seen that I was pretty good in track many years ago...

I was pretty good in metal shop....

Shadow
01-16-2006, 11:38 AM
Doug,
I'll take that as a compliment and say thank you.
I used to run too but I think Ive gotten a little
rusty. Keep running!

Lye,
Good in metal shop?....Hmmm, this could be useful!

Sorry I sounded so ticked..... I'll try to pull my claws in
now and behave ( miracles do happen) .... although
I'm still ticked!

I would like to enter the Port of the year contest.
Roughly 75% will be PM's and 25% mine. This means
if I win we need to give the prize to a worthy cause
because I had help. So I don't offend him, I won't
divulge which picks are whose. Can I play under
these conditions?


Worthy cause ideas:
1. new Levi's for Lye
2. ear job for Webs
3. cheese for Mr. Market

Shadow

billyjoe
01-17-2006, 05:18 PM
Doug,
IBD never did allow me access to my stock lists after my last post.(technical difficulties?) Now I have no access at all. My subscription is over. No more posts. Gone forever. On to better things.

billyjoe

IIC
01-17-2006, 06:19 PM
Doug,
IBD never did allow me access to my stock lists after my last post.(technical difficulties?) Now I have no access at all. My subscription is over. No more posts. Gone forever. On to better things.

billyjoe

My intention is not to have people unsubsribe from IBD...If you find useful info there... then by all means...subscribe...I just do not happen to think CANSLIM is the Holy Grail.

billyjoe
01-17-2006, 08:28 PM
Doug,
There is some useful information on IBD and I'm very used to the format. It's just not worth the $$ especially when so much data is available for free elsewhere.

billyjoe

IIC
01-17-2006, 09:06 PM
So...who's gonna break the stalemate...it's 6-6???

skiracer
01-17-2006, 09:53 PM
So...who's gonna break the stalemate...it's 6-6???

I have to agree with Billyjoe. Not worth the bucks for the bang. Way to much out there in cyberspace that's for free with hardly any restrictions. 7 - 6. Ban them bastards.

Lyehopper
01-17-2006, 11:28 PM
Lye,
Good in metal shop?....Hmmm, this could be useful!

Worthy cause ideas:
1. new Levi's for Lye
2. ear job for Webs
3. cheese for Mr. Market

Shadow

I think my high school Machine Shop experience has been extremely useful to me....

I hate Levi's.... I only wear Carhartt.

Shadow
01-17-2006, 11:41 PM
I think my high school Machine Shop experience has been extremely useful to me....

I hate Levi's.... I only wear Carhartt.

I know you're machine shop is useful.....can't remember
what I was planning to use it for but I'm sure it wasn't
good. :)

OK...ok....Carhartt's....no Levi's....got it!
I've been watching True Religion and was thinking
I ought to buy a pair of their jeans in the name of
company research. My other half didn't find $400
jeans amusing. I'll let you know if their jeans are as
good as they say. :)

IIC
01-17-2006, 11:50 PM
I know you're machine shop is useful.....can't remember
what I was planning to use it for but I'm sure it wasn't
good. :)

OK...ok....Carhartt's....no Levi's....got it!
I've been watching True Religion and was thinking
I ought to buy a pair of their jeans in the name of
company research. My other half didn't find $400
jeans amusing. I'll let you know if their jeans are as
good as they say. :)

Yeah...Do that Shadow...But as I've posted before...My wife's Badonkadonk looks just fine in her $25 Lee's Jeans...LOL ;)

IIC
01-17-2006, 11:51 PM
I have to agree with Billyjoe. Not worth the bucks for the bang. Way to much out there in cyberspace that's for free with hardly any restrictions. 7 - 6. Ban them bastards.

I still see 6-6

Lyehopper
01-18-2006, 12:16 AM
I know you're machine shop is useful.....can't remember
what I was planning to use it for but I'm sure it wasn't
good. :)

OK...ok....Carhartt's....no Levi's....got it!
I've been watching True Religion and was thinking
I ought to buy a pair of their jeans in the name of
company research. My other half didn't find $400
jeans amusing. I'll let you know if their jeans are as
good as they say. :)

Shadow is a lady fellas! TRLG doesn't make jeans for guys. Wow.... another woman investor here....

IIC
01-18-2006, 12:51 AM
Shadow is a lady fellas! TRLG doesn't make jeans for guys. Wow.... another woman investor here....

Lye...Who cares one way or the other what anyone is???

Websman
01-18-2006, 08:05 AM
Lye...Who cares one way or the other what anyone is???

I'm a Vulcan and everyone cares...

RL
01-18-2006, 09:37 AM
I won the POTW for last year and I don't think anyone cares.

RL
01-18-2006, 09:44 AM
Lye you were crazy to pay that much for oranges but I really don't care.I don't think anyone cares.

Shadow
01-18-2006, 09:50 AM
Shadow is a lady fellas! TRLG doesn't make jeans for guys. Wow.... another woman investor here....

Did I say female? Only females wear women’s clothes?
LOL.....maybe I’m just a pansy.

I have a HD Road King in my garage too.
A pansy in TRLG jeans on a HD....what an image!

I hate Levi's.... I only wear Carhartt.

Maybe I should buy some Carhartt’s instead. :)

Shadow

DSteckler
01-18-2006, 09:54 AM
Is whether this thread is really worth 45 posts? <VBG>

IIC
01-18-2006, 09:56 AM
Is whether this thread is really worth 45 posts? <VBG>

C'mon Dave...break the tie...;)

DSteckler
01-18-2006, 10:01 AM
Voted early on, Doug. I'm not a Chicago democrat; I only vote once....<VVBG>

Lyehopper
01-18-2006, 10:45 AM
Did I say female? Only females wear women’s clothes?
LOL.....maybe I’m just a pansy.

I have a HD Road King in my garage too.
A pansy in TRLG jeans on a HD....what an image!



Maybe I should buy some Carhartt’s instead. :)

Shadow

Hmmmm.... I have a HD Road King in my garage too.

I wear Carhartt jeans when I ride my Harley. I refuse to buy Harley Davidson brand clothing, although I've been given some as gifts..... Does anyone care about this either?lol

Hey Shadow! This could be fun.... Through a series of ten (10) simple questions I'll try to determine your gender....

(1) If you were a single man (age 60).... would you marry Paula Dean?

(2) Does your Harley have modified exhausts?

(3) While riding Harleys with your buddies at night.... can you shoot a wad of fire out of the pipes four feet long while sitting at a stop light?

(4) Would you invest in GEHL?

(5) How many John Deere hats do you own?

(6) Do you bow hunt white tail deer?

(7) Do you enjoy shooting targets with a pistol?

(8) How fast can you castrate a 300 pound bull calf?

(9) Would you be frightened to walk through a pasture with a 2,000 pound bull?

(10) If your spouse called you on your cell phone and asked you to go by "Fresh Market" to buy oranges before you came home from work.... Would you reply..... WHY!!!? what's wrong with "Food Lion"?!!!!... I'll bet the freakin oranges cost a dollar each at "Fresh Market"?

Bonus Question:

(11) Do you think the following statement is funny?.... "TICK... See that little doggie run!"

Lyehopper
01-18-2006, 10:49 AM
I won the POTW for last year and I don't think anyone cares.

I care DUDE!!!!

btw.... Those .99 oranges taste pretty good.

Lyehopper
01-18-2006, 10:56 AM
Lye...Who cares one way or the other what anyone is???

I didn't see Shadow complain about my statement IIC.

Why do you care that I'm so caring?

skiracer
01-18-2006, 12:46 PM
I still see 6-6

Doug,
No big deal but just curious why you didn't want to count my vote?

IIC
01-18-2006, 01:08 PM
Doug,
No big deal but just curious why you didn't want to count my vote?

I do...but on my screen it says 6-6

Lyehopper
01-18-2006, 01:30 PM
Doug,
No big deal but just curious why you didn't want to count my vote?

Ed.... Scroll to the top of the page and vote DUDE!!!! You forget we have this groovy "poll feature" on the highly advanced $$MM$$ HUUUUGE forum.

sowersnc
01-18-2006, 02:02 PM
If they are SPAMing they should get the boot. If they are discussing how Mr. Markets system is flawed and theirs is superior. I say let them speak. I think this forum can handle a difference of opinion unlike their's.

Here is a couple of quotes on censorship I found that I like.


Censorship reflects society's lack of confidence in itself. It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime. ~Potter Stewart

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. ~Voltaire

Lyehopper
01-18-2006, 02:06 PM
If they are SPAMing they should get the boot. If they are discussing how Mr. Markets system is flawed and theirs is superior. I say let them speak. I think this forum can handle a difference of opinion unlike their's.

Here is a couple of quotes on censorship I found that I like.


Censorship reflects society's lack of confidence in itself. It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime. ~Potter Stewart

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. ~Voltaire

hear hear!.... So did you vote?

sowersnc
01-18-2006, 02:13 PM
Yea, I changed the tie to 7-6 no ban. This may sound scary to other forum members but I have much in common with Lye's opinions and interests.

And for the record I do own utility John Deere tractor and have a hat. :)

Shadow
01-18-2006, 02:14 PM
Hmmmm.... I have a HD Road King in my garage too.

I wear Carhartt jeans when I ride my Harley. I refuse to buy Harley Davidson brand clothing, although I've been given some as gifts..... Does anyone care about this either?lol

Hey Shadow! This could be fun.... Through a series of ten (10) simple questions I'll try to determine your gender....

(1) If you were a single man (age 60).... would you marry Paula Dean?

(2) Does your Harley have modified exhausts?

(3) While riding Harleys with your buddies at night.... can you shoot a wad of fire out of the pipes four feet long while sitting at a stop light?

(4) Would you invest in GEHL?

(5) How many John Deere hats do you own?

(6) Do you bow hunt white tail deer?

(7) Do you enjoy shooting targets with a pistol?

(8) How fast can you castrate a 300 pound bull calf?

(9) Would you be frightened to walk through a pasture with a 2,000 pound bull?

(10) If your spouse called you on your cell phone and asked you to go by "Fresh Market" to buy oranges before you came home from work.... Would you reply..... WHY!!!? what's wrong with "Food Lion"?!!!!... I'll bet the freakin oranges cost a dollar each at "Fresh Market"?

Bonus Question:

(11) Do you think the following statement is funny?.... "TICK... See that little doggie run!"

OK....I’ll play.
My screen is green for the moment so I’m feeling a little generous.

I’m skipping 2, 3 and 5 for now....these will give me away,
I’ll answer those later.

#1__ If I liked to eat good food, I sure would! I love how she says
“shriiiiimp”. Besides....she’s loaded!

#4__By the chart - not yet. I live in farm country; can’t knock farm
equipment even if it's not John Deere

#6__ No

#7__ yes, I like to target practice, my 22 mag is always loaded...
and I bought a Ruger 17 last week

#8__LOL...sure....medical background and a sharp knife


#9__ I have had that pleasure, although I prefer it when they are minding their own business. I’ve chased a few cattle around in my day.

#10__ I made a special trip last week to buy my other half organic apples!


Bonus Question:
#11__ I own a 200 lb St Bernard; little dogs are wimpy!

Shadow

PS: I remember your your Harley comments....that’s why I said it. ;)

IIC
01-18-2006, 02:26 PM
If they are SPAMing they should get the boot. If they are discussing how Mr. Markets system is flawed and theirs is superior. I say let them speak. I think this forum can handle a difference of opinion unlike their's.

Here is a couple of quotes on censorship I found that I like.


Censorship reflects society's lack of confidence in itself. It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime. ~Potter Stewart

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. ~Voltaire

If they are here...I "GUARANTEE" they are not posting...In fact, I'll bet Lye's life on it...Doug

sowersnc
01-18-2006, 02:41 PM
If they are here...I "GUARANTEE" they are not posting...In fact, I'll bet Lye's life on it...Doug

If they are just using the site to collect data to use on their pay for use site, then that is wrong. I'm not sure I could ban them but I would have to think about it.

IIC
01-18-2006, 02:48 PM
If they are just using the site to collect data to use on their pay for use site, then that is wrong. I'm not sure I could ban them but I would have to think about it.

I don't think that...I think they want to see if anyone is infringing on their copyrights or trademarks

Lyehopper
01-18-2006, 02:54 PM
OK....I’ll play.
My screen is green for the moment so I’m feeling a little generous.

I’m skipping 2, 3 and 5 for now....these will give me away,
I’ll answer those later.

#1__ If I liked to eat good food, I sure would! I love how she says
“shriiiiimp”. Besides....she’s loaded!

#4__By the chart - not yet. I live in farm country; can’t knock farm
equipment even if it's not John Deere

#6__ No

#7__ yes, I like to target practice, my 22 mag is always loaded...
and I bought a Ruger 17 last week

#8__LOL...sure....medical background and a sharp knife


#9__ I have had that pleasure, although I prefer it when they are minding their own business. I’ve chased a few cattle around in my day.

#10__ I made a special trip last week to buy my other half organic apples!


Bonus Question:
#11__ I own a 200 lb St Bernard; little dogs are wimpy!

Shadow

PS: I remember your your Harley comments....that’s why I said it. ;)

OK now for my expert analysis....

(1) Well I'd marry Paula Dean in a heartbeat so you might be a man.... BUT you are interested in the bank account.... so you might be a woman. Inconclusive.

(4) I own John Deere almost exclusivly so you could be a man. but many women like farming too.... Inconclusive.... I own stock in GEHL, what don't you like about the chart?

(6) I don't bow hunt anymore either since my shoulder is screwed up.... So you could be a man. inconclusive

(7) You like to shoot... but you perfer small rimfire arms.... You could be a woman.... My wife likes to shoot a 22.... inconclusive

(8) You can "steer" bull calves.....hmmmmmm.... Could go either way. I know several women that are very good at de-balling males.

(9) Very Vague answer. If I asked my wife this question she'd probibly say.... "Nooooo Lyehopper.... I'd feel very safe walking "with" a 2,000 pound bull.... then nobody would mess with me.... Now, don't you have some FREAKIN work to do?".lol

(10) organic apples?.... Do you happen to enjoy GoJi berries?.... hmmmmmm, Could go either way.... inconclusive

(11) Likes BIG Dogs.... Woman!

hmmmm 50-50.... you are talented. "Shadow" the mystery member. The name fits you DUDE!!!!..... Boy or Girl?.... "Only the Shadow knows"

IIC
01-18-2006, 03:13 PM
OK now for my expert analysis....


(7) You like to shoot... but you perfer small rimfire arms.... You could be a woman.... My wife likes to shoot a 22.... inconclusive

I'm curious Lye...How many times has she shot you??? http://bestsmileys.com/shooting2/2.gif

Lyehopper
01-18-2006, 03:15 PM
Yea, I changed the tie to 7-6 no ban. This may sound scary to other forum members but I have much in common with Lye's opinions and interests.

And for the record I do own utility John Deere tractor and have a hat. :)

Did they give you the hat for free Sowers?.... I have a buddy who bought a small JD tractor from a residential dealer and got this cool "owners edition" hat FREE with the machine. I bought a 6420 cab tractor.... AND....a 457 SilegeSpecial bailer THE SAME DAY.... and didn't even get a keychain! The JD Ag-equipt dealers are TIIIIGHT!!!!

Lyehopper
01-18-2006, 03:26 PM
I'm curious Lye...How many times has she shot you??? http://bestsmileys.com/shooting2/2.gif

LOL.... well.... Let's just say.... I thank God she's never actually squeezed the trigger..... Mrs. Lyehopper exhibits a very high degree of self-control.lol

IIC
01-18-2006, 03:27 PM
LOL.... well.... Let's just say.... I thank God she's never actually squeezed the trigger..... Mrs. Lyehopper exhibits a very high degree of self-control.lol

I pretty much assumed that she must...;)

Shadow
01-18-2006, 03:30 PM
[QUOTE=Lyehopper
hmmmm 50-50.... you are talented. "Shadow" the mystery member. The name fits you DUDE!!!!..... Boy or Girl?.... "Only the Shadow knows"[/QUOTE]

Works for me! :)

sowersnc
01-18-2006, 03:36 PM
Did they give you the hat for free Sowers?.... I have a buddy who bought a small JD tractor from a residential dealer and got this cool "owners edition" hat FREE with the machine. I bought a 6420 cab tractor.... AND....a 457 SilegeSpecial bailer THE SAME DAY.... and didn't even get a keychain! The JD Ag-equipt dealers are TIIIIGHT!!!!


They did give me a free hat and it was from a Ag dealer. My neighbor was the salesman so that probably helped. My tractor is the TEN series 4115 with some fun attachments(front blade, rear blade, belly mower, rear brush mower, snow blower and a loader). I use it to mow my hay but it doesn't have the power to run a bailer.

It sounds like your dealer is a tight ass. You should have gotten alot of 'free stuff' with that purchase.

Lyehopper
01-18-2006, 03:38 PM
Works for me! :)

Soooo Shadow! What's wrong with GEHL's chart? You tell me.... then I'll tell you why I bought it.

Lyehopper
01-18-2006, 03:49 PM
They did give me a free hat and it was from a Ag dealer. My neighbor was the salesman so that probably helped. My tractor is the TEN series 4115 with some fun attachments(front blade, rear blade, belly mower, rear brush mower, snow blower and a loader). I use it to mow my hay but it doesn't have the power to run a bailer.

It sounds like your dealer is a tight ass. You should have gotten alot of 'free stuff' with that purchase.

Sowers... I did my homework, quoted out the machinery, then went to the dealer I like best with my checkbook in my pocket (I know the manager personally too) I "hammered" him so freakin hard there was a pool of blood on the floor of his office when I left.lol.... I'm a hardass negotiator, I was so happy with myself, I just forgot to ask for the hat.lol Luckily there are three dealers within an hour of me. They are all enemies too. I love it!

Shadow
01-18-2006, 04:27 PM
Soooo Shadow! What's wrong with GEHL's chart? You tell me.... then I'll tell you why I bought it.

Great! I would like that. I could use a little helping with my charting.

I meant I wouldn’t buy it now....not sure when you bought it.

GEHL:
#1. Trending sideways on below average volume.

#2. MACD was bullish but pretty flat at the moment; only slight
hook up in DMI

#3 20 MA is flat lining and multiple closes under it.

#4 1/16/06 downgrade by Reuters

#5 Short interest a little high for me


For me to buy I would need:
#1 Increase in volume and
#2 Rising 20 MA w/ closes staying above
#3 I may even wait on a test of $34.52 high

I didn't really get into the FA side.

Constructive criticism welcome. Did I pass or fail? :)

Shadow

skiracer
01-18-2006, 05:32 PM
I do...but on my screen it says 6-6

Doug,
How stupid of me. Never saw the poll at the top of the page. Ok, lets start over again. I'll clean it up. Ban those bums.

billyjoe
01-18-2006, 09:41 PM
My subscription has expired , but somehow I can still get on the forums and nothing else. This could be interesting. Mysterious posts and threads appearing. When will the grim reaping IBD censor chop off my head ?

billyjoe

IIC
01-19-2006, 12:00 AM
My subscription has expired , but somehow I can still get on the forums and nothing else. This could be interesting. Mysterious posts and threads appearing. When will the grim reaping IBD censor chop off my head ?

billyjoe

Don't worry...I won't report you...But watch out for the IBD Internet Phantom...Kelly Fenwick...LOL

But to tell you the truth...That was almost 2 years ago...Do you think that they may have changed the name???

I was thinking...When Mr. B goes to a paid site...What are my legal options for catching an "Unauthorized User" in there???...We gotta have some lawyers here...So???

billyjoe
01-19-2006, 10:51 AM
Doug,
I'm not a lawyer, but my friend has a friend who plays the part and is 100% successful. He shows up wearing a nice suit and briefcase and often doesn't have to speak. Works well in disputes with banks (hidden fees etc.) Most successful case was negating pre payment penalty in mortgage. Was in very small print. Where do they get micro fonts anyway?

billyjoe

Lyehopper
01-19-2006, 01:48 PM
Great! I would like that. I could use a little helping with my charting.

I meant I wouldn’t buy it now....not sure when you bought it.

GEHL:
#1. Trending sideways on below average volume.

#2. MACD was bullish but pretty flat at the moment; only slight
hook up in DMI

#3 20 MA is flat lining and multiple closes under it.

#4 1/16/06 downgrade by Reuters

#5 Short interest a little high for me


For me to buy I would need:
#1 Increase in volume and
#2 Rising 20 MA w/ closes staying above
#3 I may even wait on a test of $34.52 high

I didn't really get into the FA side.

Constructive criticism welcome. Did I pass or fail? :)

Shadow

Not too bad Shadow.... GEHL is not strictly a technical play for me. I like the Fundamentals very much. Here is a weekly chart I marked up just to present a different TA angle. I have found that 5 different TA folks can give you five different opinions of a chart. I do like to study weekly charts personally though.... I think "Spikefader" and "Runner" would advise you NOT to overlook weekly chart trends too.

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/9079/gehl0118060cs.png (http://imageshack.us)

Shadow
01-19-2006, 01:57 PM
Thanks for the chart and explanantion; it's very helpful.

I'm still struggling to learn Fibonacci retracement lines.
I'll get there!

Thanks again and goodluck w/ GEHL. :)
Shadow

Lyehopper
01-19-2006, 02:05 PM
.... He shows up wearing a nice suit and briefcase and often doesn't have to speak.....
billyjoe

I'll try that on my next sales call....

billyjoe
01-20-2006, 07:15 PM
I'm not one to beat a dead horse, but I'll do it anyway. Somehow I'm able to access their forums, but nothing else. Maybe a glitch in the login system.

A poster wondered how they got their figures for an advertising claim of 640% gain in one year. I answered that they were known for outrageous claims they wouldn't or couldn't back up with facts. These claims are for gains in the market overall and also their "New America" index and the "IBD 100" and others. I told the poster that IBD would never give a straight answer to a specific question and challenged any other poster to prove the purported gains. So far the only statements have been that their claims really haven't been as high as let on. No factual information. They can't hold a candle to Mr.Market.

billyjoe

Gatorman
01-20-2006, 08:22 PM
I'm not one to beat a dead horse, but I'll do it anyway. Somehow I'm able to access their forums, but nothing else. Maybe a glitch in the login system.

A poster wondered how they got their figures for an advertising claim of 640% gain in one year. I answered that they were known for outrageous claims they wouldn't or couldn't back up with facts. These claims are for gains in the market overall and also their "New America" index and the "IBD 100" and others. I told the poster that IBD would never give a straight answer to a specific question and challenged any other poster to prove the purported gains. So far the only statements have been that their claims really haven't been as high as let on. No factual information. They can't hold a candle to Mr.Market.

billyjoe
While I was still an IBD subscriber, I noted on the forums an almost paranoid obsession that Lyehopper, then Websman, then a host of others were really Mr Market in disguise posting after he was banned.
Should we now be concerned that you might really be WON in disguise posting on this forum?

Websman
01-20-2006, 08:36 PM
While I was still an IBD subscriber, I noted on the forums an almost paranoid obsession that Lyehopper, then Websman, then a host of others were really Mr Market in disguise posting after he was banned.
Should we now be concerned that you might really be WON in disguise posting on this forum?

Billyjoe is W.O.N.????

billyjoe
01-20-2006, 09:00 PM
Gator,
I really am Wm. J just like WON , now that you point that out I'm suspicious of myself. Nobody ever accused me of being Mr.Market over there although I'd take it as a compliment.

billyjoe

Gatorman
01-20-2006, 09:22 PM
Gator,
I really am Wm. J just like WON , now that you point that out I'm suspicious of myself. Nobody ever accused me of being Mr.Market over there although I'd take it as a compliment.

billyjoe
Paranoia can be a very dangerous affliction: especially for a sleepwalker!

IIC
01-20-2006, 09:34 PM
LOL Gator...Well, it is 8 to 9 on the poll...where are the 1500+ voters???