Should Mr. Market Hold A Convention in '06???

[IIC]

There was talk last year...Mr. M invited members to meet him in Vegas last Fall...But should he hold a real, honest to goodness convention???

If you vote YES...then feel free to post suggestions about when and where...Doug(IIC)

[mrmarket]

I vote for Atlantic City...eat drink gamble, etc. Seriously, we could get a big conference room and each investor can give a 20 minute seminar highlighting his favorite investment strategies....Power Point slides and all. There will need to be a keg in the room though.

[mrmarket]

Would this be better than an IBD convention?

[IIC]

I vote for Atlantic City...eat drink gamble, etc. Seriously, we could get a big conference room and each investor can give a 20 minute seminar highlighting his favorite investment strategies....Power Point slides and all. There will need to be a keg in the room though.

I was hoping you'd like it Ernie...But I was pretty sure you would...That's why I didn't ask first before I posted the poll.

I actually have a number of possible ideas...but I'll let others post some first.

And I am serious...I'd love to meet you and many of the other members...Of course it is unrealistic to think that 1500 members would all come...But even 30 or 40 would be cool...Doug

[Adam]

GREAT IDEA! Where at? My comps are at Taj.

I say Crash the IBD convention and hand out discrete invites to th MM convention.

Cover: Want to meet the MMAN where the REAL moneys made?

Inside: The usual $$MM$ is huge! and anthing else to piss them off. Hehe!

[jiesen]

Would this be better than an IBD convention?

yes. infinitely.

[skiracer]

I vote for Atlantic City...eat drink gamble, etc. Seriously, we could get a big conference room and each investor can give a 20 minute seminar highlighting his favorite investment strategies....Power Point slides and all. There will need to be a keg in the room though.

I'd vote for Atlantic City if we did it in the spring or summer. Otherwise Vail, Aspen, or preferrably Steamboat Springs if we did it this winter. Skiing ya know. Count me in for anywhere in the continental USA. Steamboat is beautiful in the winter. No wives.

[Lyehopper]

I'd vote for Atlantic City if we did it in the spring or summer. Otherwise Vail, Aspen, or preferrably Steamboat Springs if we did it this winter. Skiing ya know. Count me in for anywhere in the continental USA. Steamboat is beautiful in the winter. No wives.
Hey Ski.... Can IIC bring his "trading partner"?.... LOL!!!!

OK IIC.... I know, "not funny Lye"!.... Dude, I couldn't resist! I'll try to limit the "TP" comments from now on.... to what?.... maybe one per week?. jejeje

[Websman]

I vote for Atlantic City...eat drink gamble, etc. Seriously, we could get a big conference room and each investor can give a 20 minute seminar highlighting his favorite investment strategies....Power Point slides and all. There will need to be a keg in the room though.

I'll be there, but I don't do public speaking. Vulcans are a shy bunch.

[sisterwin2]

I vote for Atlantic City...eat drink gamble, etc. Seriously, we could get a big conference room and each investor can give a 20 minute seminar highlighting his favorite investment strategies....Power Point slides and all. There will need to be a keg in the room though.


I loved the ideal untill you stated..each investor can give a 20 min seminar..etc.

I could give a 20 min. seminar on sailing or how to sail to S. America, how to live on 100 gal of water for three weeks, getting thru a narrow cut. On picking stocks, not sure I would be worth listening too. I would listen to everyone else though. How about I play bar Tender for the beers/drinks?

[IIC]

I loved the ideal untill you stated..each investor can give a 20 min seminar..etc.

I could give a 20 min. seminar on sailing or how to sail to S. America, how to live on 100 gal of water for three weeks, getting thru a narrow cut. On picking stocks, not sure I would be worth listening too. I would listen to everyone else though. How about I play bar Tender for the beers/drinks?

Well...I was thinking that maybe you could be the one the Registration Desk Hostesses to welcome everybody and of course show them your watch.

I was hoping Webs would be the Master of Ceromonies...Although I have no problem doing that if the Vulcan is too shy...Which I have a rather difficult time believing...Of course, Lye will be the bartender...I think we give Spike and Steckler 20 mins each to give their presentation...I'll give one too...You may not learn much...But I promise to make it entertaining...although I may have a hard time keeping it to only 20 minutes once I get going.

Then there's the California Boys...We could give them 2 mins each...And of course those "Right Coaster" buddies of Mr. M...we could give them 20 seconds each to introduce themselves before LYE SPIKEFADES their cocktails.

[Peter Hansen]

There has been rumblings about a gathering for all Mr Market Guys and Girls . Two possible sites ........Manasquan NJ , lovely seashore town on the NJ coast featuring the Sand Bar and Osprey Bar (Which claims to have longest bar in the world ) I am sure MR M has banged down a few brews at both these emporioums LOL It would be fun to see the Guys and Girls we interact with! Atlantic City woud also be another site . It has Casinos and entertainment. Comments anyone?

[IIC]

There has been rumblings about a gathering for all Mr Market Guys and Girls . Two possible sites ........Manasquan NJ , lovely seashore town on the NJ coast featuring the Sand Bar and Osprey Bar (Which claims to have longest bar in the world ) I am sure MR M has banged down a few brews at both these emporioums LOL It would be fun to see the Guys and Girls we interact with! Atlantic City woud also be another site . It has Casinos and entertainment. Comments anyone?

We actually have a thread for that:

http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?t=1107

[Karel]

So I moved the discussion...

Regards,

Karel

[skiracer]

There has been rumblings about a gathering for all Mr Market Guys and Girls . Two possible sites ........Manasquan NJ , lovely seashore town on the NJ coast featuring the Sand Bar and Osprey Bar (Which claims to have longest bar in the world ) I am sure MR M has banged down a few brews at both these emporioums LOL It would be fun to see the Guys and Girls we interact with! Atlantic City woud also be another site . It has Casinos and entertainment. Comments anyone?

Pete,
Do you live down the Jersey shore? I'm in Toms River. 20 mins. from Manasquan and 1 hr. from AC and NY.

[ParkTwain]

If we're going to do this, let's get organized and be fair about it. Like doing East Coast, Midwest, and West Coast on a rotating basis each year.

Given that most $$MM$$ member are on the East Coast, I would say it's only fair to hold it in that vicinity in 2006. So the question is where. It must have fine accommodations, a golf course or two, maybe even an ocean. So that throws it open quite a bit. The weather must be nice so that throws it to the middle of the year, maybe earlier if we're talking the Southeast. So for May-July we can talk Florida up to maybe Virginia Beach. For July to September we can talk Va Beach up to Long Island.

We probably don't want to wait so long into the year to see each other, so let's assume May to July. So maybe we're talking Boca/Daytona/Vero/Jax in Fla, to Hilton Head/Savannah/Myrtle Beach, to Wilmington/Outer Banks, to Va. Beach. Somebody pick one. Lots of cheap flights to Ft Lauderdale to get to Boca. Maybe not quite as easy to get to Myrtle Beach.

[IIC]

If we're going to do this, let's get organized and be fair about it. Like doing East Coast, Midwest, and West Coast on a rotating basis each year.

Given that most $$MM$$ member are on the East Coast, I would say it's only fair to hold it in that vicinity in 2006. So the question is where. It must have fine accommodations, a golf course or two, maybe even an ocean. So that throws it open quite a bit. The weather must be nice so that throws it to the middle of the year, maybe earlier if we're talking the Southeast. So for May-July we can talk Florida up to maybe Virginia Beach. For July to September we can talk Va Beach up to Long Island.

We probably don't want to wait so long into the year to see each other, so let's assume May to July. So maybe we're talking Boca/Daytona/Vero/Jax in Fla, to Hilton Head/Savannah/Myrtle Beach, to Wilmington/Outer Banks, to Va. Beach. Somebody pick one. Lots of cheap flights to Ft Lauderdale to get to Boca. Maybe not quite as easy to get to Myrtle Beach.

OK...I nominate you to be the event organizer...July is fine by me. As a matter of fact my wife and I are headed out to the LA Times Travel Show in a few minutes...I'll see if there are any good exhibitors on the East Coast and report back later...Doug

[Websman]

How about a meeting in Paris? I'll be there in March. It'll make it easier on Karel.

[Karel]

How about a meeting in Paris? I'll be there in March. It'll make it easier on Karel.Now there is an idea! I was calculating once in how many centuries the meeting could be expected to be more or less near me, but I got lost in the powers of 10...

Regards,

Karel

[DSteckler]

Karel, how about we all meet at the Manikin Pis? That's closer to you than AC, FL, Vail, etc.! <VBG>

[New-born baby]

I don't drink or gamble or play golf. (I have no scrupples against golf; just never got started on the habit). Probably wouldn't seem to be much fun to some of you to meet in church (though it would do us all good). So feel free to disregard my suggestions.

How about Hilton Head, SC. It got a golf course designed by Jack Nicolas (I understand you almost have to be a Jack Nicolas to play the thing). Fancy hotels. Fine Southern dining. Flowers start blooming in February, so the convention could really be anytime. Then there are the warm ocean waters of SC. Beautiful place, imo.

Now how to pay for it. I say we set up a special thread in which Dave Streckler instructs us how to play GooG for the expenses. Then there are really no excuses for not attending. :D

[DSteckler]

<< I say we set up a special thread in which Dave Streckler instructs us how to play GooG for the expenses. >>

It's very simple: buy low, sell high.

You can quote me on that....<g>

[New-born baby]

<< I say we set up a special thread in which Dave Streckler instructs us how to play GooG for the expenses. >>

It's very simple: buy low, sell high.

You can quote me on that....<g>

I was hoping for a little more technical advice concerning the proper entry . . . . :D Besides, GooG has a Point n Figure price target of $316 . . . Remember Dave, we want to go to the convention THIS YEAR! :D

[DSteckler]

<< Remember Dave, we want to go to the convention THIS YEAR! >>

Buy low, sell high this year.

(VVVBG!>

[ParkTwain]

Timing is key. A time when most of us are free may also be on a major holiday weekend, which makes it harder to get reservations at a decent place. So, we can prefer a decent place and perhaps schedule something other than a major holiday, OR choose a non-obvious destination (that is, not necessarily on a seacoast) with good to very good amenities and go on that major holiday, such as Memorial Day weekend. It will be difficult (and expensive) to get hotel space in Hilton Head over Mem Day.

Some non-obvious destinations for Memorial Day (or earlier): Asheville, NC (Biltmore Home, hiking in the Smokies, golf, etc), Sarasota, FL (Gulf coast, great beach, boating and fishing, smaller city, uncongested airport), Charleston, SC, and others you might want to nominate.

ANOTHER IDEA is to schedule around SPRING TRAINING games in Florida during the first 10 to 15 days in March. For instance, here are the NY Yankees games, which mostly take place in the Tampa area (45 minute drive north of Sarasota). Yankees play the Red Sox ($$MM$$'s team) in Tampa on March 22. We could crash in Sarasota for a couple of days and also take in at least one ST game in Bradenton (next to Sarasota) or Tampa.

http://www.ballparkdigesttickets.com/ResultsGeneral.aspx?stype=0&kwds=New%20York%20Yankees
http://www.ballparkdigesttickets.com/ (see all the schedules here)

The champion White Sox do their spring in Tucson, AZ.
http://www.ballparkdigesttickets.com/ResultsGeneral.aspx?stype=0&kwds=Chicago%20White%20Sox

JUST AS AN EXAMPLE: Here is a page from Expedia.com showing flights from NYC to/from Sarasota for a 3/17 to 3/19 roundtrip. Play with the page for your own departing city.

http://www.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll?qscr=fexp&flag=q&city1=New+York%2C+NY+%28NYC%2DAll+Airports%29&citd1=sarasota&date1=3/17/2006&time1=362&date2=3/19/2006&time2=362&cAdu=2&cSen=&cChi=&cInf=&infs=2&tktt=&trpt=2&ecrc=&eccn=&qryt=8&load=1&rfrr=-429

ONE MORE VARIATION: I like cities where Southwest Airlines flies (cheap tix). (Southwest Airlines cities: http://www.southwest.com/cgi-bin/requestSchedule) SW flies into Tampa but not Sarasota. We could consider crashing in Clearwater, right next to Tampa proper. Here is a quick list of hotels and rates for 3/17 to 3/19 in Clearwater by Expedia.com:

http://www.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll?qscr=htwv&from=m&stat=1&khst=1&locn=clearwater%2C+fl&date1=3/17/2006&date2=3/19/2006&cadu1=2&crom=1&rfrr=-905

Some photos and a map of around Clearwater:
http://www.city-data.com/city/Clearwater-Florida.html

I don't know Clearwater specifically but I do know Sarasota, which is beautiful and not congested in general. Sarasota's Siesta Key is one of the best beaches in all of Florida.

ANOTHER FOR INSTANCE: Here is McKechnie Field (Pittsburg Pirates) in Bradenton, FL, right next to Sarasota:
http://www.ballparkreviews.com/bradentn/bradntn.htm

On this map notice that Bradenton is south of Tampa and north of Sarasota, so it's easy to get to from Sarasota without dealing with all the Tampa traffic:
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&country=US&addtohistory=&searchtab=home&formtype=address&popflag=0&latitude=&longitude=&name=&phone=&cat=&address=&city=bradenton&state=FL&zipcode=


SO, BOYS AND GIRLS: We'll have to take a poll of the number of those serious about attending and which days (weekend or not) that we're interested in.

[IIC]

Well I'm back from the Travel Show...Not much there on the East coast except for Florida....Mostly International, West Coast and Hawaii exhibits...However, I thought I was smooth and conned this woman out of the Conde Naste "Best Hotels Guide"...No charge...retail $21.95...But when I got home I realized it was the 2005 edition. A lot of nice places...EXPENSIVE...Which got me to thinking...Not everybody makes 35% a month like some people Park(DDD)

Perhaps we should not consider hotels that are $500+ night...Unless of course Dave can arrange a Comp.

I was thinking that a 3 Day Mr. Market Cruise to the Bahamas out of Miami would be nice.

Ernie mentioned Atlantic City...I have not been there since '69...My wife has and said it is nothing like Vegas...But I wouldn't mind.

Park...As far as golfing...I don't like things that I'm not "Immediately" good at...My first round of golf, I shot a 59 for 9 holes in 1974...Never matched it...Gave up in '75. However, while you Fancy Dancers are golfing, I wouldn't mind setting up a Golf Cart Race...Or LYE, WEBS and I and whoever wants to join us could play GOLF CART BUMPER CARS...But mostly I look forward to 3 things:

1) Seeing Sis's watch up close

2) Listening to Dave and Spike debate Technical analysis for 4 hours

3) Hearing Webs 2 minute presentation on his Vulcan trading style

Oh yeah...I want to meet Ernie too...Actually, I really don't...But my wife does ;)

Also...I prefer..."Casual Elegance" myself...I don't like wearing a suit....Doug(IIC)

[ParkTwain]

Hey, I'm not a golfer either, but $$MM$$ is, and he is KING OF THE WEEKEND. Just give me a chance to play some tennis and drink Coronas.

"I was thinking that a 3 Day Mr. Market Cruise to the Bahamas out of Miami would be nice."

PLEASE PROVIDE A LINK. The cruise could be nice but at the Bahamas you don't want to leave the boat except for the big new casino. Of course, I could write ahead and see whether we could get an hour or two with old Mr. John Templeton of Templeton Funds fame at his Lyford Cay home. <cough>

http://www.meta-library.net/bio/johnt-body.html
http://chinese-school.netfirms.com/Sir-John-Templeton-interview.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyford_Cay

[IIC]

<< Remember Dave, we want to go to the convention THIS YEAR! >>

Buy low, sell high this year.

(VVVBG!>


Too hard Dave...I prefer to buy high and sell higher...Much easier IMO...Doug(IIC)

[IIC]

Hey, I'm not a golfer either, but $$MM$$ is, and he is KING OF THE WEEKEND. Just give me a chance to play some tennis and drink Coronas.

I'll join you for the Coronas at the 19th Hole...But the only thing I'll use my racket for is to whack Lye over the head with. I really want to meet Lye's wife though...She must be an "Amazing" woman to put up with him...LOL ;)

[IIC]

Good point Park...Has anyone asked Ernie when he's available???...Might be a bit difficult to hold a Mr. Market Convention without Mr. Market!!!

Right now...And I am serious...July is a good month for me(August is out)...Possible in May, Sept, Nov. Maybe October too...I will be going to Cape Cod in October for a week anyway...Chatham...IIC

[Shadow]

I'll join you for the Coronas at the 19th Hole...But the only thing I'll use my racket for is to whack Lye over the head with. I really want to meet Lye's wife though...She must be an "Ammazing" woman to put up with him...LOL ;)


LOL....I agree with you on all points. I think I'll join you two
for coronas.

I believe everyone could beat me at golf. Amazing thing....
I swing and swing and that stupid ball NEVER moves. :)

[IIC]

Hey, I'm not a golfer either, but $$MM$$ is, and he is KING OF THE WEEKEND. Just give me a chance to play some tennis and drink Coronas.

"I was thinking that a 3 Day Mr. Market Cruise to the Bahamas out of Miami would be nice."

PLEASE PROVIDE A LINK. The cruise could be nice but at the Bahamas you don't want to leave the boat except for the big new casino. Of course, I could write ahead and see whether we could get an hour or two with old Mr. John Templeton of Templeton Funds fame at his Lyford Cay home. <cough>

http://www.meta-library.net/bio/johnt-body.html
http://chinese-school.netfirms.com/Sir-John-Templeton-interview.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyford_Cay

Why don't you want to leave the ship???

[New-born baby]

The cruise could be nice but at the Bahamas you don't want to leave the boat . . . .

Bahamas? Do you want to die young? Maybe we could practise our self defense skills. . . target practice . . . might be an encouragement to pray . . . .and you can forget Jamaica, too. :D

IIC, if you want cheap, my bro-in-law owns two hotels in Monroe, WI. (Super 8/AmericInn). You could take a cheese factory tour (4 or 5 minutes is enough); walk through the local museum (1 or 2 minutes would suffice); visit the historic downtown square (30 seconds is too long); eat at one of the fine restaurants (McDonald's, Burger King, Dairy Queen--bring your own antacid); tour the local brewery (brews "Burghoff" beer aka "Hitler Beer" his private formula--remember, I abstain from alcoholic beverages); and view the beautiful countryside (while a semi sprays whey and manure on local fields).
(You'll buy PARL after this trip :D). Don't forget, most folk here wear cheese heads . . . .


ON the serious side, $500 per night is too rich for my blood. How about Jackson Hole in the summer time, instead? Beautiful place. And there is plenty to do.

[ParkTwain]

Hey look, I live in Vegas. I can take care of arranging for any kind of accommodation the group wants. Luxor, Mandalay Bay, Monte Carlo, Paris, Aladdin, Bellagio, Mirage, Caesar's, Wynn, Golden Nugget, The Palms, you name it, and I can make the calls.

Monte Carlo is a good deal for the $$$. Mirage and Treasure Island are not as cheap as a couple of years ago. I like the Venetian's rooms but not the casino. I like the Mirage pool quite a bit. Wives will like Venetian and Paris and Bellagio for their luxuries. Wynn is brand new but not universally lauded, but very nice amenities. Great restaurants everywhere on the Strip. Hiking and horseback riding at Red Rock Canyon just west of town. Boating at Lake Mead. I personally avoid the MGM Grand (too large), Stratosphere (bad parking garage, too many tourists), Rio (dark casino, loud stage show in casino). Best building interior: Luxor's pyramid, but don't stay there. Blue Man Group, Penn and Teller, Cirque de Soleil at multiple venues, "Fat Elvis" at the Barbary Coast, the Bugsy Siegel "shrine" found behind the Flamingo, the neon sign graveyard downtown, on and on ...

Another side trip for you traders is to visit the main offices of Bright Trading, a facility for individual traders. This is a successful business based in Las Vegas but with offices in several other US cities. I took an evening class given by the owners, the Bright brothers, and I can vouch for their knowledge and savvy in the markets. They are a great resource, right here in Las Vegas. Lately they are into training traders to do "pair trading" (aka statistical arbitrage, aka "picking up nickels in front of a steamroller").

http://www.stocktrading.com/
http://www.stocktrading.com/events.html

[skiracer]

If it gets done on the east coast an in the spring or summer we should give some consideration to New York State around the Hunter/Windham Mtn. areas. Woodstock is right there and aside from some of the most beautiful countryside in the USA there are many interesting things to do. Some of the best trout fishing in the world, great antique area, many many boutique shopping areas, great hiking, climbing, horseback riding, and family things to do. Plenty of great restaurants and bed and breakfast inns for lodging. Reasonably priced area that time of the year. Plus we could all meet an eat at Sweet Sues restaurant. She was a very famous model and the first Orvis fishing gear model. Plus she is one of the best fly fishing experts in the area and a renowned mountain climber having climbed Everest and K2. Plenty of great things to do in that area.

[ParkTwain]

Is Rhinebeck NY near there? I like that area as well. Once I attended a very cool antique airplane show there. They flew in on a grass runway out in the country.

Yep, now I see, Phoenicia, NY is not that far from Rhinebeck.

http://www.cobblestonemotel.com/general.html

[IIC]

Geez...Guess I'm a bit more "Worldly" than some...I've been to the Bahamas lots of times. Been to Jamaica too...USVI 3x...BVI...Puerto Rico...St. Martin a few times...Although I don't like it...The St. Maarten side...(Dutch is OK...but the French side...I'll pass). Been to Cayman and Cozumel...They were OK.

Anyway...You just have to know how to carry yourself in the Bahamas...I know the scam games...But then again...My wife is Belizean(I've been there lots too)...Even though it is in Central America...She is a Creole...Carribean...Maybe that's why I know how to deal with the Caribs down there???...But if you are really scared...I could have 2 of my Sister-In-Laws come with us...They know how to deal with them...They have gone with us on most of our trips...Pretty fun to watch them in action...No kidding...IIC

[IIC]

Hey look, I live in Vegas. I can take care of arranging for any kind of accommodation the group wants. Luxor, Mandalay Bay, Monte Carlo, Paris, Aladdin, Bellagio, Mirage, Caesar's, Wynn, Golden Nugget, The Palms, you name it, and I can make the calls.

Monte Carlo is a good deal for the $$$. Mirage and Treasure Island are not as cheap as a couple of years ago. I like the Venetian's rooms but not the casino. I like the Mirage pool quite a bit. Wives will like Venetian and Paris and Bellagio for their luxuries. Wynn is brand new but not universally lauded, but very nice amenities. Great restaurants everywhere on the Strip. Hiking and horseback riding at Red Rock Canyon just west of town. Boating at Lake Mead. I personally avoid the MGM Grand (too large), Stratosphere (bad parking garage, too many tourists), Rio (dark casino, loud stage show in casino). Best building interior: Luxor's pyramid, but don't stay there. Blue Man Group, Penn and Teller, Cirque de Soleil at multiple venues, "Fat Elvis" at the Barbary Coast, the Bugsy Siegel "shrine" found behind the Flamingo, the neon sign graveyard downtown, on and on ...

Well...I always wanted to stay at The Mansion at MGM...But since Dave can't get me in...I was thinking maybe you could arrange it at Hooters???

[skiracer]

Is Rhinebeck NY near there? I like that area as well. Once I attended a very cool antique airplane show there. They flew in on a grass runway out in the country.

Yep, now I see, Phoenicia, NY is not that far from Rhinebeck.

http://www.cobblestonemotel.com/general.html

I eat breakfast at Sweet Sues in Phoenicia almost every Wednesday or Thursday during the skiing season. We ski Hunter or Windham every week now that the season is in. It's a beautiful area especially in the spring and fall. Plenty to do and some of the most beautiful bed and breakfast inns.

[IIC]

Bahamas? Do you want to die young? Maybe we could practise our self defense skills. . . target practice . . . might be an encouragement to pray . . . .and you can forget Jamaica, too. :D

IIC, if you want cheap, my bro-in-law owns two hotels in Monroe, WI. (Super 8/AmericInn). You could take a cheese factory tour (4 or 5 minutes is enough); walk through the local museum (1 or 2 minutes would suffice); visit the historic downtown square (30 seconds is too long); eat at one of the fine restaurants (McDonald's, Burger King, Dairy Queen--bring your own antacid); tour the local brewery (brews "Burghoff" beer aka "Hitler Beer" his private formula--remember, I abstain from alcoholic beverages); and view the beautiful countryside (while a semi sprays whey and manure on local fields).
(You'll buy PARL after this trip :D). Don't forget, most folk here wear cheese heads . . . .


ON the serious side, $500 per night is too rich for my blood. How about Jackson Hole in the summer time, instead? Beautiful place. And there is plenty to do.

I'll take a pass on the Super 8...I like to stay in $500 night rooms for under a 100 bux...When I went to the Trader's Expo in Vegas in Dec...We had a rez for $59 at Bally's...the Front Desk Clerk talked me into a suite (Not The Presidential Suite of course...For $84)...Whoa!!!...What a room...5 Bay windows overlooking the Strip...2 levels...2 Vanities...Bathroom and separate Bidet...Bathtub overlooking the Strip...My wife loved it...What a Deal!!!

Jackson Hole is Cool... http://rustyparrot.com and http://springcreekranch.com

[DSteckler]

$84 for a two-level suite at Bally's? Who'd you have to kill?

[skiracer]

I'll take a pass on the Super 8...I like to stay in $500 night rooms for under a 100 bux...When I went to the Trader's Expo in Vegas in Dec...We had a rez for $59 at Bally's...the Front Desk Clerk talked me into a suite (Not The Presidential Suite of course...For $84)...Whoa!!!...What a room...5 Bay windows overlooking the Strip...2 levels...2 Vanities...Bathroom and separate Bidet...Bathtub overlooking the Strip...My wife loved it...What a Deal!!!

Jackson Hole is Cool... http://rustyparrot.com and http://springcreekranch.com

I've skied Jackson Hole. If you're thinking of Jackson Hole it has to be in the winter. But Steamboat Springs has alot more ambience.

[Shadow]

I agree that NY is a lovely state.

My I suggest: www.mohonk.com Lovely place.

Maybe Doug & Lye's wives and I could take one of the
boats, steal your coronas and spend some time
on the lake "plotting".

[IIC]

I agree that NY is a lovely state.

My I suggest: www.mohonk.com (http://www.mohonk.com/) Lovely place.

Maybe Doug & Lye's wives and I could take one of the
boats, steal your coronas and spend some time
on the lake "plotting".

Take my wife...Yeah...You got it ;)

[IIC]

$84 for a two-level suite at Bally's? Who'd you have to kill?

Well Dave...I don't have to gamble to get comped...Sure...My wife got comped at Excalibar on New Years...Just got a 2 night Comp there for Valentines...Heck, we only stayed there 2x since 1990.

On Feb 24th we are comped for 2 nights at http://www.bacararesort.com/...Actually, it is a Company deal...I told my boss that my wife is expecting the Presidential Suite @ $7,500 nite...But I have a feeling we will be stuck in the $450 Garden View room...Hope it is a nice garden!!!

[Shadow]

Take my wife...Yeah...You got it ;)


ROFL......I was just going to take her for a plotting session.
I'm not sure you'll like the results.....just ask my husband
........I'm a Pro! :)

[IIC]

ROFL......I was just going to take her for a plotting session.
I'm not sure you'll like the results.....just ask my husband
........I'm a Pro! :)


OOOOOOOH...I love a challenge...Doug

[Websman]

Wow...so many places...so confusing... I vote for Lye's back yard. We could all bring our favorite gun and shoot targets, while drinking Goji brandy. It would also give me a chance to see some of my kin folks I haven't seen before. I still think Lye and me could be related.

[IIC]

Wow...so many places...so confusing... I vote for Lye's back yard. We could all bring our favorite gun and shoot targets, while drinking Goji brandy. It would also give me a chance to see some of my kin folks I haven't seen before. I still think Lye and me could be related.

I'm pretty sure you guys are related...IIC

[IIC]

I agree that NY is a lovely state.

My I suggest: www.mohonk.com (http://www.mohonk.com/) Lovely place.


Wow...that looks like a nice place...but I want to stay at a place that I can wear shorts in the lobby...I always wanted to go to the Poconos http://www.poconosbest.com/Resorts.htm

I guess Park is right...should be in an area where the most members live. Sorta strange though...More members on the East Coast...But the best investors are on the West Coast...Doug

[skiracer]

Wow...that looks like a nice place...but I want to stay at a place that I can wear shorts in the lobby...I always wanted to go to the Poconos http://www.poconosbest.com/Resorts.htm

I guess Park is right...should be in an area where the most members live. Sorta strange though...More members on the East Coast...But the best investors are on the West Coast...Doug

Catskills and Adirondacks much nicer than Poconos. Perhaps we should have an east coast vs west coast trade off to settle that assumption of yours. Actually we could go back into the POTW and look at the % to see where the best records live. That would give a decent indication of which coast is stronger. But let's not forget about the Midwest either.

[IIC]

Catskills and Adirondacks much nicer than Poconos. Perhaps we should have an east coast vs west coast trade off to settle that assumption of yours. Actually we could go back into the POTW and look at the % to see where the best records live. That would give a decent indication of which coast is stronger. But let's not forget about the Midwest either.

Well, Jiesen lives on the West Coast and he's good. And we are claiming Park too...Las Vegas is not exactly on the West Coast...But if there is a big earthquake Park just might be living beachfront...Doug

[IIC]

Hey, I'm not a golfer either, but $$MM$$ is, and he is KING OF THE WEEKEND. Just give me a chance to play some tennis and drink Coronas.

"I was thinking that a 3 Day Mr. Market Cruise to the Bahamas out of Miami would be nice."

PLEASE PROVIDE A LINK. The cruise could be nice but at the Bahamas you don't want to leave the boat except for the big new casino. Of course, I could write ahead and see whether we could get an hour or two with old Mr. John Templeton of Templeton Funds fame at his Lyford Cay home. <cough>

http://www.meta-library.net/bio/johnt-body.html
http://chinese-school.netfirms.com/Sir-John-Templeton-interview.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyford_Cay

Here's a link on Royal Carribean out of Miami. Actually September is cheaper. Also, for every 15 or 16 I get I think I get a free ticket. But rather than use it myself or if there are enough ...myself and my wife... I would think maybe a drawing or contest with the winner(s) getting a refund would be nice.
http://trimurl.com/49U

My wife and I have been on 15 cruises. In fact for my B-Day we are going on a 3 day out of LA over Easter weekend...You are welcome to join us...We will be in Suite 1560 on Deck 10 http://trimurl.com/49V ...Doug

[DSteckler]

<< But let's not forget about the Midwest either. >>

Yeah, we have the Bowling Hall of Fame here in St. Louis. Don't want to miss that!

[Websman]

Dave and I have Panama City to offer. We could party with the spring breakers... YEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAH!!!!

[New-born baby]

Dave and I have Panama City to offer.

Panama City is a nice place.

[IIC]

I think ParkTwain is really Casino Boy:

http://www.cheapovegas.com/index.php

Speaking of St. Louis...I think I changed planes there once...It is not on my Top Million places that I want to visit.

Geez...And my wife was so excited about the Mr. Market Convention until I told her where Steckler wants to have it...Here is a verbatim transcript of our conversation:

"Sugarplum...I think we decided where the Mr. Market Convention is gonna be"

"Goody...Tell me...Tell me...Please tell me Poochikin"

"Snowbunny...We are gonna have it in Steckler's hometown...Wonderful St. Louis"

"That's nice Butthead...send me a postcard"

[ParkTwain]

That is a hilarious web site, and I have recommended it often. But it is this review of the Gold Spike that shows you where the reviewers are coming from:
http://www.cheapovegas.com/vegas_casino_full.php?hotel_id=1020

Now, I finally found the "fat Elvis", er "big Elvis" web site:
http://www.bigelvis.biz/

5 "wild and crazy" Vegas lounge acts:
http://www.cgtv.com/entertainment/features/lounges.shtml

Two analyses of the idea of Las Vegas:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/lasvegas/sfeature/sf_qa.html
http://www.kunstler.com/excerpt_lasvegas.htm

In the first link, professor Hal Rothman says that in one year more human beings visit Las Vegas (>40M) than Mecca, the holiest site of Islam.

[ParkTwain]

But only the Midwest has the "Field of Dreams" ball park to offer:
http://www.ballparkreviews.com/places/fod.htm

[ParkTwain]

Cheapo Sarasota, ONE BLOCK from the beach! $99/night (dbl occupancy) for a studio! 2 BR for $219 (split in half for two). Right next to St. Armand's Circle, which is full of restaurants and boutique shops.

http://www.travelnow.com/index.jsp?pageName=hotAvail&destinationID=ef184ced-50dc-498f-acb5-1356a7948061&requestKey=068A2C165053127696&showInfo=true&cid=117410&locale=en_US&postalCode=&showPopUpMap=false&star=2-5&propertyType=67&hotelID=221156&location=1+BLOCK+FROM+LIDO+BEACH&city=Sarasota&departureMonth=1&hotnetrates=true&mode=2&mode=2&currencyCode=USD&numberOfRooms=1&arrivalDay=19&additionalDataString=vrBookingSource%7ChotSearch&departureDay=21&stateProvince=Fl&country=Us&room-0-adult-total=2&arrivalMonth=1&streetAddress=

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?formtype=address&addtohistory=&address=528%20S%20Polk%20Dr&city=Sarasota&state=FL&zipcode=34236%2d2037&country=US&location=fI%2fdR5DWQRTRHwLoj5Y%2blsx4wBfXnqs9Rj2hZ bOBZGDhcw%2fRgQ2Zdk8rxqAWGpEqSoJ8F2qAmOiri%2fKGz6x 04U2jfOSJH5KB9R%2bVFYoPKa1lfeWGdTwRZu3%2baiDZvqbfW f3a4UC5ZUo%3d

//
Quiet side roads and boulevards are perfect for a morning jog or a casual stroll to nearby St. Armands Circle, which hosts shops, restaurants, galleries, boutiques and nightlife.

The beach, only one block away, is nice for relaxing or water sports, such as jet skiing, scuba diving, windsurfing, and more. Across the bay is Sarasota, Florida's cultural center and home to a variety of indoor and outdoor activities, from fine museums and theaters to championship golf courses and tennis facilities.
//

One more reason to book $$MM$$'s weekend in Sarasota!

[IIC]

Well...I nominated Park to be the "Event Coordinator"...Didn't see any objections...So I say we have it in Vegas...Park seems to have more connections there than Steckler anyway...My preference is Hooters...But I will go along with whatever Park comes up with...As long as it's not the Klondike...Although they do have a great 10 cent roulette deal...And free hot dogs out by the cement pool on Tuesdays...IIC

[ParkTwain]

PLEASE! the Klondike (was across the street from the Mandalay) is gone with the desert wind. (I already pointed you to the Gold Spike!) Land on the Strip is worth $8M an acre and up. The new South Coast casino (Coast Casino company is now owned by Boyd Gaming - symbol: BYD) was just opened about *2 miles* south down LV Blvd from the Mandalay Bay.

This might another reason for some of you consider meeting in Vegas around May 15th. This is not a bad take:
http://www.lasvegasmoneyshow.com/MS/lasVegas/main.asp

[DSteckler]

I have a buddy who attended Traders Expo in LV this past December. He said it as a waste of time compared to previous shows. How does the Money Show differ from the Traders Expo?

[DSteckler]

<< My preference is Hooters >>

Chris Ambrose is now a host at Hooters. He used to be my host at the Luxor and is a nice guy. If you meet the RF or RFB minimums, he'll be sure to take care of you.

[DSteckler]

<< And free hot dogs out by the cement pool on Tuesdays... >>

That's 'cement pond,' Jethro, not cement pool. <BG>

[IIC]

I have a buddy who attended Traders Expo in LV this past December. He said it as a waste of time compared to previous shows. How does the Money Show differ from the Traders Expo?

They are about the same...But the whole point is to give the Exhibitors a hard time...Especially the drones at the IBD Booth...I'll bet that you would enjoy that almost as much as I do...Can you imagine the look on their faces if we all show up at once???

[IIC]

<< My preference is Hooters >>

Chris Ambrose is now a host at Hooters. He used to be my host at the Luxor and is a nice guy. If you meet the RF or RFB minimums, he'll be sure to take care of you.

Dave...I don't even know what RF or RFB means???...People comp me because I'm charming and I'm a Fun Guy..Not because I bet big bux...Doug(IIC)

[IIC]

PLEASE! the Klondike (was across the street from the Mandalay) is gone with the desert wind. (I already pointed you to the Gold Spike!) Land on the Strip is worth $8M an acre and up. The new South Coast casino (Coast Casino company is now owned by Boyd Gaming - symbol: BYD) was just opened about *2 miles* south down LV Blvd from the Mandalay Bay.

This might another reason for some of you consider meeting in Vegas around May 15th. This is not a bad take:
http://www.lasvegasmoneyshow.com/MS/lasVegas/main.asp

I see the South Coast has bowling...That should be right up Dave's ALLEY...I wanna see which one of you guys can come up with the Best Deal...C'mon!!!

BTW...Is the South Coast the old Vacation Village???

[IIC]

They are about the same...But the whole point is to give the Exhibitors a hard time...Especially the drones at the IBD Booth...I'll bet that you would enjoy that almost as much as I do...Can you imagine the look on their faces if we all show up at once???

Oh yeah...I forgot to mention the BEST part of these shows...The CyberTrader Hosted Bar...Great food and all the drinks you can handle for 2 hours.

[DSteckler]

<< I don't even know what RF or RFB means???... >>

R = Room
F = Food
B= Beverage (booze)

How much a player is comped (players rate for room, R comp, RF comp, or RFB comp) depends upon how much action you give the casino. For example, at the Luxor:

1) A $50 average bet for a minimum of 4 hours/day gets you the discounted players rate for the room instead of the rack rate;

2) A $125 average bet for a minium of 4 hours/day get you a room comp only;

3) A $175 average bet for a minium of 4 hours/day gets you a room comp/food/booze limited to the coffee shop and buffet; and

4) A $225 average bet for a minium of 4 hours/day gets you a room comp/food/booze at all restaurants, including the gourmet restaurants.

[IIC]

<< I don't even know what RF or RFB means???... >>

R = Room
F = Food
B= Beverage (booze)

How much a player is comped (players rate for room, R comp, RF comp, or RFB comp) depends upon how much action you give the casino. For example, at the Luxor:

1) A $50 average bet for a minimum of 4 hours/day gets you the discounted players rate for the room instead of the rack rate;

2) A $125 average bet for a minium of 4 hours/day get you a room comp only;

3) A $175 average bet for a minium of 4 hours/day gets you a room comp/food/booze limited to the coffee shop and buffet; and

4) A $225 average bet for a minium of 4 hours/day gets you a room comp/food/booze at all restaurants, including the gourmet restaurants.

I was kidding Dave...But thx for the info...When I told you about the Bally's Deal...And yes...I'll admit that Bally's is a bit worn...I got it because of my "Charm"...The whole time I was in Vegas in Dec. for the Traders Expo I made one bet for 10 bux at the Race Book...my wife might have been a different story...I gave her 500 bux and never heard from her again...So I guess she was OK.

But these FREE offers we keep getting from the Excalibur...Makes me wonder???...Last time we stayed there...Did she REALLY win???...Doesn't make sense to me why they keep sending us these freebies!!!

[DSteckler]

<< But these FREE offers we keep getting from the Excalibur >>

Double check to see if it's really free, Doug. Manadaly Bay (same owner as Excalibur) mailed out what looked like free offers but the very fine print said it was based on how much play the guest gave the casino.

[IIC]

<< But these FREE offers we keep getting from the Excalibur >>

Double check to see if it's really free, Doug. Manadaly Bay (same owner as Excalibur) mailed out what looked like free offers but the very fine print said it was based on how much play the guest gave the casino.

Yes...But I have a feeling my wife won big last time we were there and didn't tell me.

[ParkTwain]

The freebies indicate that she PLAYED big, not whether she won big!

[IIC]

The freebies indicate that she PLAYED big, not whether she won big!

True...But I only gave her 500 bux...and she never came back for more...Maybe she churned it for 3 days???

[DSteckler]

On slots the casinos measure what is called "coin-in," i.e., how much coin you dropped into the machine. You bring $500 and go home with $500, but if you played 6 hours day your coin-in might be $10,000. That attracts freebie offers!

[IIC]

On slots the casinos measure what is called "coin-in," i.e., how much coin you dropped into the machine. You bring $500 and go home with $500, but if you played 6 hours day your coin-in might be $10,000. That attracts freebie offers!

My wife plays roullette...Doug

[DSteckler]

Ugh. Tremendous house advantge to that game.

[IIC]

Ugh. Tremendous house advantge to that game.

Yes I know...but for some reason she seems to do well often...Maybe she's just lucky...Guess that's true...she found me didn't she?

[New-born baby]

Alright, Dave:
Ya scared me the other day saying we ought to buy GooG and "sell higher." That chart said $316 is the bottom . . . and you said, "Buy low, sell higher this year." Okay, now's your chance! What's the plan, Stan? :D

[skiracer]

Alright, Dave:
Ya scared me the other day saying we ought to buy GooG and "sell higher." That chart said $316 is the bottom . . . and you said, "Buy low, sell higher this year." Okay, now's your chance! What's the plan, Stan? :D

I'll be looking at the Feb. and March $420 calls in the morning, but will wait a little bit to see which way the wind is going to blow. This could go to under $350 or above $400 easily. Very volitaile right now and taking any kind of position would be gambling right now.

[IIC]

So...Are we having a convention or not???...My wife is bugging me about our vacation plans...Got 2 days in April and 5 in October planned...I get 4 1/2 weeks a year...and I still have over 2 weeks leftover from last year...Doug

[skiracer]

So...Are we having a convention or not???...My wife is bugging me about our vacation plans...Got 2 days in April and 5 in October planned...I get 4 1/2 weeks a year...and I still have over 2 weeks leftover from last year...Doug

Normally I would go anywhere for something like this but right now I'm just bringing a 68 unit 4 story condimium project out of the ground with a specifically tight construction schedule an it would have to be on the east coast within a 150 mi. radius of NYC for me to even think of attending. I know that won't influence the final decision but that's it for me. The time element is another story.

[IIC]

Normally I would go anywhere for something like this but right now I'm just bringing a 68 unit 4 story condimium project out of the ground with a specifically tight construction schedule an it would have to be on the east coast within a 150 mi. radius of NYC for me to even think of attending. I know that won't influence the final decision but that's it for me. The time element is another story.

Well...Ernie had suggested Atlantic City...I have not been there since '69...But that would be OK with me...Doug

[sisterwin2]

Well...Ernie had suggested Atlantic City...I have not been there since '69...But that would be OK with me...Doug


My vote is still Alantic City.......... I would wear my watch but it imploded on a deep dive, I may have to go watchless.

[Peter Hansen]

On slots the casinos measure what is called "coin-in," i.e., how much coin you dropped into the machine. You bring $500 and go home with $500, but if you played 6 hours day your coin-in might be $10,000. That attracts freebie offers!

D Steckler,
I have seen in an article where a few sloats in Nevada actually pay slightly over 100% .....I did not believe it either . I think these were high denomination slots! In other words if you can play long enough ........you HAVE to come out ahead!

[IIC]

OK...Are we gonna have this convention or not?...I've got 7 weeks vacation this year but I've already committed to 2 1/2 weeks...I have June and July available and October too...Actually, I'm going to Cape Cod in October but I have not set the date yet so if it is in Atlantic City I could work around it I think.

My preference is July except for the first week. I'd prefer Las Vegas or Atlantic City...Actually, I'd prefer a 3 day cruise to the Bahamas but it doesn't seem like many would come.

Ernie...When are you available? Even 20 or 30 would be pretty cool w/ spouses or friends and even the kids welcome IMO...So????????

If we are actually going to have one I would be happy to help w/ the arrangements...But we should hurry up and set it up...It's almost Christmas...Doug(IIC)

[mrmarket]

If you guys plan it, and it's in Atlantic City, I will come.

[skiracer]

If you guys plan it, and it's in Atlantic City, I will come.

I'm up for Atlantic City anytime. If you build it Doug they will come. I would help to set it up anyway you need help.

[IIC]

OK...Let me see what I can come up with in July in Atlantic City...Will keep you posted...Doug