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spikefader
12-26-2005, 06:30 PM
A Portfolio of the Year (2006)???????

Am I insane????? Yes, I think I am. But they say winners love good competition and that competition has the potential to bring forth the best from people. And if that is true then a 2006 Portfolio/Fund of the year competition might be worth participating in.

We've got POTW and that's a fun thing, so why not Fund of the Year too??

I suggest we let www.marketocracy.com (http://www.marketocracy.com/index.html) do all the work in calculations and reports. All we'll have to do is create and manage our own ports, submit the ticker name as an entrant in this thread and post your performance every now and then.

Late comers though the year could be entitled to enter, cuz as we all know about fat ladies singing, it's possible that months into this competition a newcomer could get competitive real fast and end up taking the title.

So how about it folks? Let's have some fun watching our Funds race towards the December 2006 finish line. And you never know; you may even end up in the m100 top 100 funds of the year and get their small management fee they offer.... :D

I just created a Fund over there and have named the Fund ticker SPIKE.

So snap to it and make your own Fund ticker over at www.marketocracy.com (http://www.marketocracy.com) and compete.

Unless there are objections, this competition starts market open tomorrow (we're virtually at 2006 anyway) and will end last trading day in 2006. If you'd prefer to wait until first trading day of 2006, then speak up, but what's a few days between ports?? hehe

Runner
12-26-2005, 07:34 PM
Spike, this sounds good. Iíve never been on the site before. Is there a MR M group for those on this forum? Or do we just do our thing and report back on progress? Iím a little confused on the site. I opened my account with 1mil balance. I guess it will take some time to read how the site works. Iíll wait until the New Year to begin. It might take me that long to figure things out.

Websman
12-26-2005, 07:38 PM
I'll have to think about it first. I have a hard enough time finding time to keep up with my real portfolio. I suppose I could just duplicate my real portfolio though. I do have a decent gain for the year.

spikefader
12-26-2005, 08:48 PM
..do we just do our thing and report back on progress?..
I figured each participant creates their own fund with its own ticker. As for reporting, I'm still researching if there is an option for me to look up someone else's ticker and see their performance.....Karel, do you know if this can be done?? If so, I'll do the weekly summary by simply looking them up.

If it can't be done, then each player will have to post their monthly total performance. Screenshots might be nice. Their graphs look pretty cool.

skiracer
12-26-2005, 09:26 PM
I figured each participant creates their own fund with its own ticker. As for reporting, I'm still researching if there is an option for me to look up someone else's ticker and see their performance.....Karel, do you know if this can be done?? If so, I'll do the weekly summary by simply looking them up.

If it can't be done, then each player will have to post their monthly total performance. Screenshots might be nice. Their graphs look pretty cool.

I went there and signed up. To see everyone's funds and picks I think you have to subscribe to the premium service. Anyway looks like it would be fun.

Karel
12-27-2005, 03:08 AM
I think this is a really nice idea. (I would.) You don't need the premium membership, but everyone has to post the Public Page for his/her fund. Fot instance, the public page for my mechanical Fund is

http://marketocracy.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Portfolio.woa/ps/FundPublicPage/source=CbOeCgIlEdHiDfCkMaKiAbDd

The information for the owner is "real time" (delayed); the public page shows the result after the previous trading day. Also, individual holdings are not displayed on the public page. I think we can live with that.

Regards,

Karel

Karel
12-27-2005, 03:54 PM
One point to note: it is difficult to day trade under the marketocracy rules! But to keep up day trading for a year long contest sounds moderately ridiculous to me anyway. But limits are possible.

Another thing: we might choose to allow only compliant funds (under the marketocracy rules) to participate. Of course a startup fund cannot be compliant, but will become compliant after six months. This rules out the happy-go-lucky funds. The rules: http://marketocracy.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Portfolio.woa/ps/MRulesPage/bfix=1

I wanted to revive my old marketocracy fund. This seems a good place to do it. Its public page is http://marketocracy.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Portfolio.woa/ps/FundPublicPage/source=LkKcDbMnDmFoChAfMaKiAbBj

I think marketocracy is ideal to test trading strategies.

Regards,

Karel

IIC
12-28-2005, 12:04 AM
Nice idea...but it seems like a lot of work IMO

spikefader
12-28-2005, 12:34 AM
But on the marketocracy portfolio we can't see the other players actual picks unless we pay right?.... I looked at yours and only saw the totals.... for all I know you really made those returns shortselling STSI or something like that. I can get more clearcut info from Jazztelinano than from that website dude....jejeje
OK, I moved your quote in here Lye.

To answer that concern we can make it a rule to post a quick screenshot of the portfolio positions monthly and past trades, or better yet, make it a rule that it has to be in compliance with the Fund rules of diversification and qualify for official site Performance Rankings as per rules here http://www.marketocracy.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Portfolio.woa/ps/MRulesPage/bfix=1
They are pretty strict rules there , eg. For a majority of each period, your fund must meet guidelines that are similar to SEC and IRS rules regarding fund position concentration:

* No position can exceed 25% of your total portfolio value.
* Half your portfolio must be comprised of positions under 10% each.
* Your cash position isn't limited by this guideline, although you must be 65% invested

That should do the trick as far as port quality and raising the bar to prevent hail mary plays.

And for anyone worried about not knowing if they're in compliance, the site even TELLs you when you're not in compliance (via your Fund's Compliance Report Card that is browseable within your own Fund pages), so there's no excuse for not making the official rankings.


Nice idea...but it seems like a lot of work IMO
Only as much work as you want to put into it. It's possible to spend 30 minutes creating your fund ticker, put in a dozen or so picks with limit orders or market orders and then let 'em go without even looking at it. Fast forward 12 months and see how they went. All of 30 minutes to be in the running for the title. Or you could invest several hours a month fine tuning it and rotating funds around trying to improve performance, or testing strategies.

I spent an hour or so putting orders in today and must say that I'm impressed with marketocracy. Prompt emails, and realistic. They use a % of real volume to establish your position. Some orders filled fast (like AMLN) cuz volume is high. Others didn't fill over the whole day (like BEL) and it'll pick up the buying again tomorrow cuz I entered GTC. From what I've seen of the site, it's awesome considering all things. It ain't no IB TWS platform, but it's accountable, realistic, easy to use, and free. No complaints here yet.

But anyway, this time of year is busy, and maybe come 2006 you'll get some spare time to throw a port together IIC and all others who don't have time for this mess right now.

spikefader
12-28-2005, 01:26 AM
OK folks, I threw a 10 stock Fund together today (ticker is SPIKE) and got pretty aggressive, the wisdom of which will reveal itself the next 2 days :D All have valid TA setups that support the entries, and I'll be strict with downside stops as soon as I figure out how to set a stop :) Karel, and hints??

But here it is. Port average finished -0.58% for the day.

http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/959/spikefundeoddec279qq.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/8969/tradesdec278zz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/7511/bysector5ek.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Karel
12-29-2005, 11:12 AM
OK, here are my holdings. NFI and SAFM will be kicked away when the new year comes. A replacement has not been found yet.

http://img426.imageshack.us/my.php?image=qhf200512292zd.png

Regards,

Karel

dmk112
12-29-2005, 11:37 AM
Spike, I will set up my account in 2006.

Lyehopper
12-29-2005, 11:41 AM
This is very cool.... I have set up my account but Have not finished my portfolio yet. Each player posting their holdings is the way to go fellas, I like it.

Karel, do you subscribe to the premium service?

Karel
12-29-2005, 02:10 PM
Lye: No, I don't. Besides this site :) I use Yahoo, Moneycentral on MSN.com and the free Reuters tools.

Regards,

Karel

spikefader
12-29-2005, 06:38 PM
OK, here are my holdings. NFI and SAFM will be kicked away when the new year comes. A replacement has not been found yet.

http://img426.imageshack.us/my.php?image=qhf200512292zd.png

Regards,

KarelAbsolutely gorgeous numbers Karel. Congrats.

spikefader
01-01-2006, 04:34 PM
Made some adjustments to SPIKE for the start of the year. Here is how it stands going into Day 1 of 2006. (very pleased to be +0.5% in the face of S&P500 -1.6% in the past 4 trading days).

http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/923/spikejan18lj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

You'll note that I'm currently not in fund compliance (i.e. the rule that 50% of the port must be made up of stocks under 10% or less of the port assetts). I'm only at 43% and it's due to my late in the day buy of EFA, so I'll remedy that asap.

New-born baby
01-01-2006, 09:43 PM
OK, here are my holdings. NFI and SAFM will be kicked away when the new year comes. A replacement has not been found yet.

http://img426.imageshack.us/my.php?image=qhf200512292zd.png

Regards,

Karel

NFI: 30% of outstanding shares are short on this baby. Incredible, considering that it just paid a divy of $1.40 per share one week ago.

Chart looks horrendous. Could return to $22.50 per share in short order.

You sure you don't want to short this one in a revenge move? Or maybe buy a put?

Karel
01-03-2006, 09:56 AM
Hi New-born: No, I you can't buy puts for the fund. And another way to make money from a losing stock is to get rid of it (or not buy it) and buy a better one. That is what I aim for with JLG, my new pick. See the thread for my Marketocracy fund (http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/showthread.php?t=403).

Regards,

Karel

Karel
01-08-2006, 10:25 AM
Nice, my fund was up 4.6% for the week! Any other results?

Regards,

Karel

Websman
01-08-2006, 10:26 AM
Nice, my fund was up 4.6% for the week! Any other results?

Regards,

Karel

Mine sucked. I should have stayed with TRLG.

spikefader
01-08-2006, 04:40 PM
+4.2% for the SPIKE fund :)

spikefader
01-14-2006, 10:55 AM
It ain't as much fun when there aren't many contenders.

* This past week; Return: 5.84%

How'd you do Karel?

Come on people, weigh in will ya!

dmk112
01-14-2006, 01:29 PM
It ain't as much fun when there aren't many contenders.

* This past week; Return: 5.84%

How'd you do Karel?

Come on people, weigh in will ya!


Spike, I still yet have to setup my fund. I will have limited access to the internet for the next 2-3 weeks. But after that I PROMISE to participate AND whoop your butt! haha j/k I wish :D

Karel
01-15-2006, 11:10 AM
It ain't as much fun when there aren't many contenders.

* This past week; Return: 5.84%

How'd you do Karel?

Come on people, weigh in will ya!
Up 3% for the week and 7.7% YTD! And of course, the rest could be lazy AND plain chicken. POTW is about as much as they can handle. Or POTY! :D

Regards,

Karel

Runner
01-15-2006, 11:56 AM
Up 3% for the week and 7.7% YTD! And of course, the rest could be lazy AND plain chicken. POTW is about as much as they can handle. Or POTY! :D

Regards,

Karel

Karel, how do I place stop orders?

Karel
01-15-2006, 12:00 PM
I don't think you can place stop loss orders. Remember, you are running a fund. Stop loss orders make especially fund managers rather vulnerable. I would use some kind of alert service, delayed or not, and act accordingly. I may be wrong. You could always ask on help@marktocracy.com.

Regards,

Karel

Runner
01-15-2006, 12:03 PM
I don't think you can place stop loss orders. Remember, you are running a fund. Stop loss orders make especially fund managers rather vulnerable. I would use some kind of alert service, delayed or not, and act accordingly. I may be wrong. You could always ask on help@marktocracy.com.

Regards,

Karel

Thanks, I signed up and need to figure out the platform

spikefader
01-27-2006, 06:55 PM
Bump! Never too late to throw a port together. Perhaps a short fund; they got those too at marketocracy. Come on dudes.

Two horse race at the moment. Come on fellas; put up a port and have some fun. Shoo, I'll even let ya'll pick Creme of the Crop candidates and C Longs! hehehe

Here's where Karel and I stand relative to the market and each other.

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/7852/jan280mq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

scifos
01-27-2006, 07:22 PM
all right, I'll give this a shot. I'm going to pick a handful of stuff and let it ride for awhile, updates will be infrequent.

scifos
01-27-2006, 07:36 PM
Ticker will be SCIFO

http://www.marketocracy.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Portfolio.woa/ps/FundPublicPage/source=JaBaGbObEdNkKlDoMaKiAbDc

Websman
01-27-2006, 08:00 PM
I started a fund called VMF... Up 30 grand in two days...jejeje...

Karel
01-28-2006, 05:56 AM
... And Karel is kicking some dust up. That's just HUUUUGE. ...
Thanks Spike, but perhaps I wasn't clear enough: I wanted to enter my first Marketocracy fund for this contest, ticker QHF. It also has its own thread. My Mechanical Fund is nostalgic experiment, back to my first days in the US market, but now (hopefully) on a somewhat sounder footing. I use that fund (QHOF) as a thorn in Lye's backside.

QHF scored 2.2% for the week and 10.5% YTD.

Regards,

Karel

Lyehopper
01-28-2006, 11:51 AM
Thanks Spike, but perhaps I wasn't clear enough: I wanted to enter my first Marketocracy fund for this contest, ticker QHF. It also has its own thread. My Mechanical Fund is nostalgic experiment, back to my first days in the US market, but now (hopefully) on a somewhat sounder footing. I use that fund (QHOF) as a thorn in Lye's backside.

QHF scored 2.2% for the week and 10.5% YTD.

Regards,

Karel
My RNSOB fund will make you beg for mercy....

spikefader
01-28-2006, 01:04 PM
Thanks Spike, but perhaps I wasn't clear enough: I wanted to enter my first Marketocracy fund for this contest, ticker QHF. It also has its own thread. My Mechanical Fund is nostalgic experiment, back to my first days in the US market, but now (hopefully) on a somewhat sounder footing. I use that fund (QHOF) as a thorn in Lye's backside.

QHF scored 2.2% for the week and 10.5% YTD.

Regards,

KarelAh! Thnx Karel, no you were crystal clear and I'm a knucka, but thanks lol Boy, QHOF is doin' great. That might end up with the title of best unentered port of the year by default the way it's going lol

spikefader
01-28-2006, 01:15 PM
OK so I got these funds entered.
Karel http://marketocracy.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Portfolio.woa/ps/FundPublicPage/source=LkKcDbMnDmFoChAfMaKiAbBj
Scifos http://www.marketocracy.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Portfolio.woa/ps/FundPublicPage/source=JaBaGbObEdNkKlDoMaKiAbDc
Spike http://www.marketocracy.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Portfolio.woa/ps/FundPublicPage/source=CnHhGaHeEdLaDgDdMaKiAbDc

Webs and Lye, please post your fund public page links (assuming you're not talkin' outa yer hats) so I can grab the performance charts and insert them in the thread throughout the year.

Come on folks, get your ports together!

spikefader
02-03-2006, 09:35 PM
Well it's a 3-horse race now with Scifos throwing in! Good on ya dude. You absolutely Rock! I'm sure you'll turn it around and discover some gems that'll go up even when the market is goin' down. Karel's done it so there's proof anyone can do it! obviously I'm just kidding cuz Karel is one clever dude, and it shows by him outperforming the M100 for a LONG while. I think the MM forum has missed that little tidbit of info. Karel knows his stuff and he's showing it in POTW, and in here too. And this thread is your chance to match it with the best, so let's go dudes; it's Feb already. Start the engines and compete.

If I were a harsher more grumpy individual I'd say I'm ashamed and apalled at everyone's disinterest in this thread. Come on knuckleheads! Throw a port together - A SHORT port if you want; they've got 'em. Dudes, how hard is it to make 8 picks, put 'em in a port and let em simmer all year?! It's a piece of cake. Do it now, do it tonight, do it on the weekend.........just DO IT!

Webs. Bring you VTS or VPT or PVT or whatever the heck that silly system of yours is over here and show us how stinkin' good it is. I know you're as busy as a one-armed brick-layer in Iraq getting your new www.tradelikeaVulcan.com (http://www.tradelikeaVulcan.com) website together, but dude, have you got a good long-term system? With the big stops you use, this should be a walk in the park; ya got a whole year to be right! I'll even let you use my "Vector" terminology if you throw in here. hehe

Standings:
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5673/frifeb32pn.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Karel
02-04-2006, 04:51 AM
Hi spike, I am not sure if I am in the lead. NAV now is 24.99, down 1.8% for the week, and up 8.4% YTD. I think we need to compare the NAV's, and for funds that existed before 1/1 we also need the NAV the fund started the year with (23.03 for QHF).

Regards,

Karel

spikefader
02-05-2006, 04:07 PM
Karel, yes I agree the NAVS from 1/1 are the numbers to use, and I've been doing that (albeit guessing at the numbers on the charts I get when I specify number of days). Maybe when I took those screenshots, the Marketocracy system hadn't updated to show the latest values.

Can't recall, but I think I used NAV of 23 for yours and NAV of 10.05 for mine, and then calculated from there. I'll use 23.03 for yours in future.

Do you know where I can get my 1/1 NAV from. I didn't keep emails if it was emailed to me, and I can't find it on the system. The chart looks like it's 10.05 but it may not be accurate.

Anyway, looking at the updated graphs from Marketocracy today from 1/1:

Karel: 23.03 to 24.99 = 8.51%
Webs: 10.83-10.00= 8.3%
Spike: 10.87-10.05= 8.16%
Scifos: 10.00-9.70= -3%

spikefader
02-05-2006, 04:08 PM
Webs and Lye, if you're entering those funds, please specify those source links
eg. http://marketocracy.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Portfolio.woa/ps/FundPublicPage/source=LkKcDbMnDmFoChAfMaKiAbBj

Edit: this is the URL for the Public Page of the fund

Karel
02-05-2006, 04:18 PM
Do you know where I can get my 1/1 NAV from. I didn't keep emails if it was emailed to me, and I can't find it on the system. The chart looks like it's 10.05 but it may not be accurate.
Hi spike, you'll find all your historical NAVs in the ledger of the fund. It is one of the options in the drop-down list when you have your fund open. You'll want the Price column(!).

You could also use Total value, if you want to be more exact. For my fund this doesn't change much: total value was $2,303,026.28

Regards,

Karel

Websman
02-05-2006, 05:38 PM
Here's my fund....


http://marketocracy.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Portfolio.woa/ps/FundPerformancePage/source=LjBjAcHeEdNhPjOnMaKiAbDd

Karel
02-05-2006, 06:20 PM
Hi Webs, nice result! But you didn't publish the link for the public page. That link is:

http://marketocracy.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Portfolio.woa/ps/FundPublicPage/source=LjBjAcHeEdNhPjOnMaKiAbDd

Regards,

Karel

spikefader
02-05-2006, 06:38 PM
Here's my fund....
http://marketocracy.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Portfolio.woa/ps/FundPerformancePage/source=LjBjAcHeEdNhPjOnMaKiAbDd
Congrats on an solid start dude!

Websman
02-05-2006, 06:50 PM
Congrats on an solid start dude!

It is likely that I will become a legend after this year is over...

Websman
02-05-2006, 06:55 PM
I must add that you are one of the reasons that I am doing so well Spike.

jiesen
02-05-2006, 07:05 PM
It is likely that I will become a legend after this year is over...

Webs, you're already a legend in our minds.

skiracer
02-05-2006, 11:39 PM
Webs, you're already a legend in our minds.

And in your own. Beauty is in the minds of the beholder and in my mind you are a beautiful personality. Legendary status is yet to be determined and decided.

Websman
02-08-2006, 04:48 PM
I bought PARL in my marketocracy account this morning... I will be the envy of Wall Street....

http://marketocracy.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Portfolio.woa/ps/FundPublicPage/source=LjBjAcHeEdNhPjOnMaKiAbDd

spikefader
02-08-2006, 06:10 PM
thnx Webs!

Hey, wow dude, you're doing GREAT. I see you went to mostly cash yesterday. That's the way to protect profits! And now PARL; Keep up the fine work! You are leading now of course. I'll post charts and leaderboard on Saturday.

spikefader
02-13-2006, 02:35 AM
YTD standings:

Webs 10.00 to 10.74 = 7.4% YTD
Spike 10.05 to 10.67 = 6.16% YTD
Karel 23.03 to 23.66 = 2.73% YTD
Scifos 10 to 9.59 = -4.1% YTD

http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/2803/potyfeb138dl.gif (http://imageshack.us)

spikefader
02-25-2006, 01:04 PM
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/3616/potyfeb251hz.gif (http://imageshack.us)

dmk112
03-01-2006, 06:56 PM
Spike, finally got my fund up!

Here's the url:
http://www.marketocracy.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Portfolio.woa/ps/FundPublicPage/source=LpNbCgBmEdPoHeJbMaKiAbDc

But how are you guys getting those charts??

spikefader
03-01-2006, 07:37 PM
Spike, finally got my fund up!

Here's the url:
http://www.marketocracy.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Portfolio.woa/ps/FundPublicPage/source=LpNbCgBmEdPoHeJbMaKiAbDc

But how are you guys getting those charts??Awesome dude, you are HUUUGE!! hehe Good luck bro; may the Creme be with you!
Your price chart will appear in a few days; it needs a few days history to chart up.

spikefader
03-05-2006, 11:54 PM
Wow player of the week is clearly dmk! Very smart 4 day move. Well done and congrats on the fast move up +4.8% YTD to 4th place in blistering fashion. Keep that up and we'll have to start doing drug tests! hehe

Webs slips to 3rd place as his port just took a big hit and lost half it's profits in a week :(. He still sits comfortably in the race though...still with nice profits for the year, at +4.9% YTD........he just lost his fantastic lead is all. I don't doubt the Vulcan one will leverage his VTP and make us all amazed.

Karel makes a nice move to 2nd with +5.56% YTD after a cool lookin' V pattern formation last week.....you had it on a string dude! heh

And yours truly takes the lead from the Vulcan one, with +6.37% as I wonder about the slightly bearish broadening pattern my chart's put in the last month hehe

This is fun people. It ain't too late to join the race. Check out dmk's move; he is living proof that smarts and timing can fast-track you to the pack. So throw a port together and see how you do. It might even help your trading!

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/93/potymar59iq.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Karel
03-06-2006, 03:41 AM
And this is my Mechanical Fund, QHOF:

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/9594/qhof0603059oq.png (http://imageshack.us)

...

Regards,

Karel

spikefader
03-08-2006, 08:22 PM
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/8574/scifospop6pa.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

scifos
03-09-2006, 04:59 PM
I had liquidated the whole portfolio, but it didn't sell one holding for some reason.

dmk112
03-09-2006, 06:41 PM
My fund got killed this week, I don't check on it for a few days and it goes kaput, I guess this is what happens when you invest in micros lol

Karel
04-03-2006, 08:51 AM
So, here are the current positions in my Marketocracy fund, after the close on March 31st:
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9375/qhf2006031va.gif (http://imageshack.us)

The fund is struggling a bit, but seems to be on its way up again.

Regards,

Karel

spikefader
05-21-2006, 01:52 PM
Only 2 of us in the green after the tough discounting in the market.

Karel 23.03 to 23.25 = 0.96%
Spike 10.00 to 10.09 = 0.9%
Scifos 10.00 to 9.72 = -2.8%
dmk 10.00 to 9.28 = -7.2%
Webs 10.00 to 8.49 = -15.1%

gerihearne
05-30-2006, 11:48 AM
Spike, How does cers look to you?
It's trading above $8.00 today ...
Cordially,
Geri

spikefader
05-30-2006, 01:52 PM
Spike, How does cers look to you?
It's trading above $8.00 today ...
Cordially,
GeriHiya gerihearne.
Well it's doing a few bullish things, but for me needs to do a lot more and then present something worth nibbling at.
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/7779/cersmay300eo.gif (http://imageshack.us)
Best to ya.

gerihearne
05-30-2006, 02:33 PM
Hiya gerihearne.
Well it's doing a few bullish things, but for me needs to do a lot more and then present something worth nibbling at.
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/7779/cersmay300eo.gif (http://imageshack.us)
Best to ya.

Thanks Spike ... great chart and info ... you are HUGE!

geri