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mrmarket
10-16-2003, 01:32 PM
The combination of low interest rates, low unemployment, and low inflation does very well for homebuilding demand. What happens if you demand for houses goes up? You sell more houses.

Today I bought WLS (William Lyon Homes ) at 54.10. I will sell it in 4 to 6 weeks at 62.53. Ok, I admit it. This is an industry play. However, WLS is first among equals, in my not so humble opinion.

Here’s why I like WLS:

The stock price of WLS is up over 160% in the last 12 months yet its P/E is still less than 10. Is it safe?? With a P/E of 10?? Doy!

Last year a million homes were sold. We’re not talking about selling Pet Rocks. Houses are worth a lot of money. If you sell a lot more houses, you make a lot more money. Furthermore, the rate of homeownership is going up as well, meaning that a greater percentage of people are homeowners now. Owning a house is great. You can play your stereo loud. You can pee on the trees in your backyard and no one can say anything. Well, you might get a thrown shoe in the back of your head, but that’s only if your wife has good aim.

WLS builds houses in America’s hotbed: California, Arizona and Nevada. Did I tell you I just got back from Nevada?? I smoked cigars, drank a 1000 beers, played golf, ate steakey wakey and won thousands of dollars betting college football. You? You?? YOU???

William Lyon targets entry-level and move-up buyers, with prices ranging from $100,000 to $1 million. The average home price is $300,000. They presently have a HUGE backorder of these homes.

They recently announced preliminary net new home orders and
backlog information for the three months ended September 30, 2003
which were at the highest levels for any quarter in the Company's
history. Net new home orders for the quarter ended September 30, 2003 were a record 977, an increase of 96%, as compared to 499 for the quarter ended September 30, 2002. So let’s see….977 times $300,000 equals $293,000,000 dollars of revenue. That’s 50% of their annual revenue just from backorders alone!! Whhooooo mama!

Speaking of revenues, they’ve grown steadily at a rate of 15% per year over the last 4 years. Remember…this is all through a very soft period in our country’s history. When things get better (and they will get better) WLS’s growth will increase commensurately.

Consistent with this revenue growth, WLC has seen its earnings grow and grow. $$$MR. MARKET$$$ projects 2003 earnings to be $6.91/share. At today’s P/E of 9.66, this projects to a share price of $66.75, which exceeds my target. Most likely, once we see confirmation of 3Q earnings, the street will allow the P/E of WLS, and other homeowners to expand, and its stock will hit my target that much faster. The industry average P/E is already 14.

How good is WLS?? What do you make of an ROE of 28.7% vs. industry average of 16.2% and an S&P average of 9.1%??

But don’t take it from me…listen to the Lyon roar: “We are proud of the results for the second quarter of 2003. The number of new orders during the quarter is a record for any quarter in the Company's history and the backlog at June 30, 2003 is a record for any quarter in the Company's history."

Wade H. Cable, President and Chief Operating Officer stated: "The
Company has increased its number of sales locations from 30 at
September 30, 2002 to 46 at June 30, 2003.” This means they have increased their sales locations by 50%. They wouldn’t be putting their money out there for this activity if they haven’t already done their homework on where the homebuying will take place.

The real ace in the hole here is that consolidation is rampant in this business. Now..the chairman and CEO is William Lyon and he’s 80 years old. He is a retired USAF General. No question he kicked butt in his day (and probably still does). His kid is also William Lyon and he’s only 29 years old and has a senior position at WLS. He is a smart kid, he went to Stanford and is probably heir to the WLS throne. Now do you think this rich kid wants to build homes for the rest of his life, or do you think he’d rather cash out and take his money with a yacht anchored in the Carribean with an all female crew? So…if Ryland or NVR comes by and offers a fair price of $70/share for WLS, what do you think Junior is gonna do?? Well, here’s what $$$MR. MARKET$$$ would do ==> “Play that steel drum….more cracked crab please!”

jonnieocean
10-16-2003, 02:38 PM
Ernie, glad you had a good time in Vegas. It's always lots of fun going there as I am only 4 1/2 hours away by auto.
WLS....................Good for you. I have owned this stock for a while. Got some at $46.06 and then picked up some more at $54.10 It is rated one of the best of the homebuilders. I believe that the dream of all Americans is to own their own home. At least it should be. I also had and sold and rebought HOV. Made a bundle on that one and sold too early. Remember to eat healthy once in a while. We want you around to continue your awsome reccommendations.
My very best regards.
Jonnie :D :D

IamOrion
10-16-2003, 07:11 PM
Mr. Market, do you think the recent hike in building materials, wood in particular will affect this pick?

Thanks,
Orion

mrmarket
10-16-2003, 08:14 PM
Mr. Market, do you think the recent hike in building materials, wood in particular will affect this pick?

Thanks,
Orion

This would be an across the board expense that affects all homebuilders. Presumably then they could all pass this on to homebuyers. Increase in price may soften demand, but I think it wouldn't be the most negative thing to hit this industry.

brewea
10-16-2003, 10:33 PM
Mr. Market-- congrats on yet another winner! I still trying to get the hang of the new forum-- is your latest data dump posted somewhare? I like to browse! (Not that I doubt in the least that you've picked the best of the bunch) thanks-- brewea

brewea
10-16-2003, 10:56 PM
:oops: Thnaks again-- brewea

mrmarket
10-16-2003, 11:17 PM
:oops: Thnaks again-- brewea

did you find it?? It was called "Columbus Day Data Dump"

RL
10-17-2003, 09:48 AM
Ernie,
Did you send out the top five from the dump? I usually buy one or more of these stocks and look for a 5% move. It always helps to make a fast nickle.
Have a great day
RL [Ray Long]

mrmarket
10-17-2003, 10:26 AM
Yup:

http://www.mrmarketishuge.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=121


pay attention please!

RL
10-17-2003, 01:36 PM
Ernie,
Sorry about not paying attention but I was too much into the YANKEES
on a more serious note I thought we would receive the data dump followed
by the top five, after some discussion and then your choice, I only received an e-mail with your choice, which I appreciate very much. :? Catch you later
RL [Ray Long]
YOU ARE HUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGE

IamOrion
10-20-2003, 12:38 PM
Is it to late to jump on the bandwagon?

hawaiikai106
10-20-2003, 09:08 PM
Jump on board on Friday, thanks your hugeness!!!!

jiesen
10-21-2003, 01:09 AM
This one's of to quite a start

$$MM, you are HUGE!

titanomega1
10-21-2003, 02:14 PM
MrMarket can this be right WLS up 8% since I bought it last week!!!!!!!!!!!!

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

I'm selling my house and putting it all in to the MRMarket fund.

Can't lose! Drinking machine!

jiesen
10-28-2003, 10:05 AM
I just sold WLS for 62.5, and a 15% profit. Did you? You? YOU?

Thanks $$MM, you are HUGE!!! (Sold my DKS too, for 15%+) You're SUPER HUGE!

Karel
10-28-2003, 11:30 AM
I just sold WLS for 62.5, and a 15% profit. Did you? You? YOU?

Yup! And WRLD has gone the same way. Quite a windfall, these past few days!!

MrMarket is HHUUGGEE !!

jiesen
10-28-2003, 01:49 PM
This is going to keep Mr. Market busy with picks for a while! Hope they keep coming like this. It's unbelievable! How long can he keep this up?

$$Mr. Market$$ is definitely HUGE!!

What do you say to that, Bruce? Still glad you're in 100% cash?

carlton02
10-28-2003, 03:23 PM
ERNIE
Thank YOU! I got out today at $63, you are to HUGE

Thanks again.

Have you had time to run a data dump??

Carlton

titanomega1
10-29-2003, 08:51 AM
15% in 10 days!

Huge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!1 :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: